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watcher
09-13-2001, 05:04 PM
It may not look like a crusade upon the immediate surface, but there's a viewpoint by many terrorists that this is a holy war...

For the U.S., a retaliation to a constant presence in this world that decided to include America in it's attacks with an abhorrently deadly results... but as the years pass it will progressively turn into an all out holy war if the inclusion of Israel continues as far as denouncing Israel as a vile oppressor, and constant chiding of nations against Israel who is only trying to defend against this constant terrorism itself.

If Israel is truly given a right to exist as a nation then the right to defend Itself should be allowed... the fight against the terrorism should be encouraged... otherwise who then are the real terrorists? Those who strap bombs to their bodies, those who rig massive bombs in vehicles, those who provide financial and material support to their destructive actions, those who encourage these monsters cheering them on, or those who encourage and support these monsters by disallowing the victims to properly protect itself.

If that is truly the case then we know Israel is not truly given the right to exist as a nation by all these actions... Israel is not to be with such enemies... Israel will overcome as in the past all these overcoming odds all these peoples surrounding against the Chosen People, when Israel turns to to the One who chose them and given Israel the Promised Land. Who can really stand against G-D? Who can stop the prophecies? Shalom.

Not Beilin
09-13-2001, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by watcher
If Israel is truly given a right to exist as a nation then the right to defend Itself should be allowed...

Well in all of Israel's wars, the US prevented Israel from reaching the capitals of the Arab countries and winning decisively.

Instead, the US, Russia and Europe always forced Israel to stop short of a total victory.

Lately Israel has also been prevented from beating terrorism by those same countries.

Even though there's a lot of sabre rattling going on about defeating terrorist regimes, I highly doubt that much will be done.

Maybe they'll bomb Afghanistan and Sudan, blow up a few sand dunes, but that's about it.

Then everyone will go home back to their MTV and Israel will be left alone to face more Arab terror.

watcher
09-13-2001, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Not Beilin


Lately Israel has also been prevented from beating terrorism by those same countries.


It didn't help when all that carnage happened colin powell maintained that arafat and peres should meet...

perhaps they also would try to meet with the terrorists to try to forget what happened and say let's make a peace treaty and allow you to have some land in the U.S. share the white house and tell them they can be a country within itsef.

With so much support for terrorism it can happen!!!