Islam is coming our way to change us

[mizpah]

ariel

Mediocrates seems smug with himself/herself and seems to look down on the underprivileged large families of Arabs. To try and devise an underhanded means to corrupt a different culture and modify it to suit our needs is insulting and arrogant. You are also wrong to misrepresent your born again neighbour who would not think that Jews have horns coming out of their head. Your neighbour knows very well that Jesus Christ was preordained to die for the sins of the world. For your information Islam is on the march to the West to evangelise it to Alla. They think that the promiscious, greedy, secular and liberal West has lost its way and needs brought back to the true faith. They are out to change your culture and make you like them so don't be so smug. Just take note of the Arab settlements in the West, for example they have declared their desire to take England for Islam and have their own parliament. Some of us in the West would hardly miss a lunch for our faith whereas Islam will put their lives on the line. I support Israel who go back thousands of years to Abraham to have their own land. The ordinary Palestanian family is not at fault but under command of a terrorist regime. What is needed is for the majority of Palestanian families to be persuaded to live in Israel and give their allegience to the Government of the country and have guarantees built into the legal system. Outside interference who use an inside minority is a powerful weapon as Northern Ireland discovered.

[Mediocrates]

Mediocrates seems smug with himself/herself and seems to look down on the underprivileged large families of Arabs.

No not smug but somewhat indifferent. Their lot in life and their remedy to it is largely in their own hands. Perennial victim hood means they are NEVER deserving of their own nation.

To try and devise an underhanded means to corrupt a different culture and modify it to suit our needs is insulting and arrogant.

Specifically why and how so? This ethos of everything is everything and all values and cultures are the same, comes from where? A culture that promotes unmitigated and unfocused violence is the same as what exactly? I see this as a feeble defense to defend the indefensible. To the leftward west everyone 'condemns' terrorism but in order to gloss over your own support of it you frame the argument in terms of 'every value system is the same, who are we to judge'. Well I'll tell you. We who stand for the norms of civilization, decency, democracy and humanity, that's who. We judge and by those standards the Arab world and the Palestinians have failed miserably. And you will judge me in turn either by words or weapons.

You are also wrong to misrepresent your born again neighbour who would not think that Jews have horns coming out of their head.

Actually you are the one who is wrong - I had to respond to a direct question asked of my 10 year old by an adult.

Your neighbour knows very well that Jesus Christ was preordained to die for the sins of the world.

Again that is your supposition not mine. But I don't believe anyone died for my sins.

For your information Islam is on the march to the West to evangelise it to Alla.

I don't doubt that but apparently it's ok for you "To try and devise an underhanded means to corrupt a different culture and modify it to suit (y)our needs. That is shear hypocrisy.

They think that the promiscious, greedy, secular and liberal West has lost its way and needs brought back to the true faith.

I think the backwards hypercritical zealots of the Arab world are the ones that need to be dragged a few centuries forward.

They are out to change your culture and make you like them so don't be so smug.

I am out to change theirs so they should not assume supremacy.

Just take note of the Arab settlements in the West, for example they have declared their desire to take England for Islam and have their own parliament. Some of us in the West would hardly miss a lunch for our faith whereas Islam will put their lives on the line.

Many people put their lives on the line for what they believe, this is not unique. What is unique in the Arab world is their willingness to put SOMEONE ELSE's life on the line. Always willing to fight to the last infidel. Well bring it on then.

I support Israel who go back thousands of years to Abraham to have their own land. The ordinary Palestinian family is not at fault but under command of a terrorist regime.

We agree at least that the Palestinians are ruled by tyrants, criminals and thugs. But I thought in your earlier sentence they were out to change the world? Which is it?

What is needed is for the majority of Palestinian families to be persuaded to live in Israel and give their allegience to the Government of the country and have guarantees built into the legal system.

But what about changing the world? How persuaded? What constitutes allegience and what kind of guarantees are you looking for? Such as? Are you talking about a one-state solution with Israel from the sea to the Jordan river? I'll agree to that. But if you mean a state where Jews form the minority of an Arab state then you are wrong, either willfully or through ignorance.

Outside interference who use an inside minority is a powerful weapon as Northern Ireland discovered.

What does this mean?

[ruby]

islam coming to change us?

why are the irish so romantic? you in particular have a logic so knotted, as medioc, had illustrated with ease, that i think you must've been smoking bud while posting, am i right?

underneath it all, it ain't about religion & the spread of the 'true faith'.
it is about power, and trying too reverse impotency.

everything these knobs do is against the moderate teachings of islam. they can try as they like to legitimize it but most muslims know they are wrong.
so it's about asserting power by spitting in the eye of the big guy; every other explaination is pure bull.

and can someone answer me this?:
why is it that these ME arabs bitch & moan constantly about how decadent we westerns are, etc, then come here and treat the western women like they were the chickens and they are the foxes? that's just an example & also a bit of a generalization, but, largely, this is the case . they seem to think that we are all porn stars or something *& it's ok to be disrespectful to us.
then they turn around and explain they have to have their women covered up like mummies because men are laschivious dogs. well, maybe THEY are but western men are half as ill behaved as some of the 'cousins'.

even those terrorists, who were supposedly dedicated to allah & his will--what bull-- were getting lap dances and getting drunk, etc...

so they are hypocritical liars and the only thing they follow with any avid attention is their own ****s....

people get confused, i notice, when they see that these meatheads are 'willing to lay down their lives' --btw, as romantic a way as could be put, but also pure b.s,---& they think that it must be because they are so dedicatedto god that they do this...

well, guess what? study criminal behavior & psychology a bit and what you get is a profile of a person who 1) craves excitment/ 2) has a poorly developed lack of judgement, action vs. consequence; 3) has no developed sense of conscience, empathy, or compassion; 4) seeks to make an inferior self 'important' by negative actions; i.e., to make an impact & be noticed by others; perhaps t be feared & make others cower, so as to inflate their own esteem/self/worth...THEIR POWER.

these ass****s fit a CRIMINAL profile, not any romantic or religious one. the fact that in some cases, that this pathology has escaped into some of the general public & sentiment should only gird you & all to reverse it by any means necessary, because, like a virus, it will consume those people first, then spread...

[elke]

these ass****s fit a CRIMINAL profile, not any romantic or religious one. the fact that in some cases, that this pathology has escaped into some of the general public & sentiment should only gird you & all to reverse it by any means necessary, because, like a virus, it will consume those people first, then spread...

Bravo, Ruby! Go, girl - that's exactly right!

[Mr. Pumps]

I have said this time agian, at some point in this Century a conflict with Islam is almost guarenteed beyond alittle flare up here and there.

I am deathly afraid, while our Civilization is advanced and complex in nature over our enemies, that might fail to disquise the fact that Islamic population are exploding in numbers, while we steadily fade away from a low Birth-rate and high Death-rate.

By 2025, Islam will be the World's biggest religion, even than Christianity, will Christianity and Judaism continue to exist be 2099 or will the Religion and all traces be forever gone.

By saying other Populations be given help by Governments to increase in number so as to balance things out. Not touching any Muslim Populations. I am told by "Peacniks" that I am a extreme right winger from that idea. Well .......maybe I am in some thinking......but Bush is Right wing, Sharon is definitely Right wing and the Hindu leader Vayipee is Right also. Maybe I am just following the crowd.

I am glad little Israel is equipping herself more and more with cutting edge weapons. In the upcoming years the Jewish state will have to show the determination and courage displayed in the past.