Why is Jon Stewart a Self-Hating Jew?

[minusthejihad]

I used to like Jon Stewart long before he had his own show, but in the last couple years I have noticed that this guy is no fan of Israel nor Judaism in general.

When his clips start showing up all over anti-Israel blogs on the net including pro-Hamas and pro-HizBullah site kabobfest.com, followed by comments like "dirty greedy Jews this, Israeli Nazis that" you have to start wondering. When you dig around and find glowing interviews with him at Al-Guardian in which he praises anti-semite Michael Moore and talks about dropping his last name because it sounded "too Hollywood", I think you really need to wonder why this idiot is praised by so many Jews, when their enemies source him for material. I just don't get it. Can someone please enlighten me?

[Magid]

ive never liked him ive always found him kind of an annoying douche bag. but i hadnt heard that he was an anti-semite though..

[physics]

Really? I never knew that about Jon Stewart. Oh well, Faahhhckkk him!:mad:

[minusthejihad]

He's not necessarily an anti-semite. He's just thoroughly anti-Israel it seems and doesn't give a about his Jewishness. I wonder what he thinks when Israel's enemies use his clips on their websites and blogs to further their agenda. Anyone seen what I am talking about at other anti-American and anti-Israel blogs?

[Mishpacha]

He's not necessarily an anti-semite. He's just thoroughly anti-Israel it seems and doesn't give a about his Jewishness. I wonder what he thinks when Israel's enemies use his clips on their websites and blogs to further their agenda. Anyone seen what I am talking about at other anti-American and anti-Israel blogs?

I used to watch the Daily Show on a daily basis, but only watched it occasionally for the past few months now. I don't remember him talking about Israel much. Do you have a link to the clips used on the blogs you mention?

[physics]

I don't care for Jews who are anti-Israeli. These idiots should shut their mouths and not focus on Israel if they don't have anything good to say, otherwise the Arabs will use guys like Jon Stewart to demonstrate hatred of Israel by Jews.

[Yala]

Do you have a link to some of this Jon Stewart stuff?


I used to like Jon Stewart long before he had his own show, but in the last couple years I have noticed that this guy is no fan of Israel nor Judaism in general.

When his clips start showing up all over anti-Israel blogs on the net including pro-Hamas and pro-HizBullah site kabobfest.com, followed by comments like "dirty greedy Jews this, Israeli Nazis that" you have to start wondering. When you dig around and find glowing interviews with him at Al-Guardian in which he praises anti-semite Michael Moore and talks about dropping his last name because it sounded "too Hollywood", I think you really need to wonder why this idiot is praised by so many Jews, when their enemies source him for material. I just don't get it. Can someone please enlighten me?

[tzanchan]

I remember that j stewart always used to advertise his jewishness on his show, I need to see clips of these 'anti semetic' remarks

[minusthejihad]

I didn't say that John Stewart made anti-semitic remarks nor were they made on his show. I'm saying his snide attitude about the War on Terror, Israel, and the US makes him a favorite go to guy for the terror apologists at kabobfest.blogspot.com. Last I checked, there were two seperate clips of his on their blog, of course you can check the August archives.

My point is, if I was Jon Stewart and I saw that my show was being used to attack Israel across the blogosphere, and if I was proud of my heritage, I would change whatever I was doing so that I wasn't helping the enemies of my people. Secondly, I wouldn't be going around saying nice things about Michael Moore who clumped Israel together with all other evils in the world. Lastly, I consider changing your last name (even for business purposes) as an insult to your family and your people. But hey, I'm not objecive whatsoever, so you all are free to think what you want.

The reason I started this thread is not to prove that Jon Stewart is a self-hating Jew. I don't know him personally and I can't find too many people who think he is, Jews included. I started this thread because I would like input from others in this forum and see what they think about Jon. I just feel when your content is sourced by our enemies, that you should probably think twice about your content. Either way, the entire Stewart, Franken, Colbert, etc. Comedy Central Clan is so self-righteous and condescending to their viewers it makes me sick. They really think they are sooo much smarter and witty than their viewers whcih is why I can't watch those shows, despite their funny parts. I don't know, you tell me.

[Luke90]

So what you're effectively suggesting is that before he makes any jokes he should consider whether any terrorists might approve of them and if they would he should remove them? His brand of comedy is entirely based on attacking the policies of politicians. It's inevitable and unavoidable that some of his material will appeal to people who hate those politicians.
Personally I occasionally watch the Daily Show but most of the internal American politics goes over my head.

[minusthejihad]

So what you're effectively suggesting is that before he makes any jokes he should consider whether any terrorists might approve of them and if they would he should remove them?

For instance, Jon had a guest on the other day and they discussed making Jerusalem an "International City". He was all for it which was further justified by him being a Jew. An American Jew albeit with no right to pass judgement on the matter. This of course didn;t stop our enemies from using the clip as fodder for their Agenda.

I just typed in "Jon Stewart Israel" in Youtube.com and got this result:

http://youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=jon+stewart+israel

Take a look through the comments in the first clip, you will see what I mean. The idiot that posted this clip wrote: "Jon rocks! Down with the terrorist state of Israel and the zionist murderers!"

What I want to know, is how did it get to this?

I doubt you'll see the same guy posting Jackie Mason, Ben Stein, or Adam Sandler clips like this in Youtube or on kabobfest.

[Luke90]

I doubt you'll see the same guy posting Jackie Mason, Ben Stein, or Adam Sandler clips like this in Youtube or on kabobfest.
Probably because as a non-American Jon Stewart's is the only one of those shows that I've ever seen or even heard of. Regardless of his views on Israel Jon Stewart just has a much higher profile. A youtube search for Jackie Mason returned 6 results compared to over 1000 for Jon Stewart.


I don't think you can consider his policy suggestions to be serious when he brings Scientology into them and I don't think he should have to tailor his show to make sure he doesn't accidentally say something people you don't like might agree with.

[minusthejihad]

That's fine and dandy Luke. Perhaps if your people were limited to 18 ~million across the entire world, yet disproportionately represented in everything from government, entertainment, media, education, etc., and on the receiving end of daily hatred, rumors, rocket attacks, you name it, fighting for their existance since the beginning of time, you might care a bit more if one of your own was out providing ammunition to your enemies. But I appreciate your insight as an outsider, though.

[Mira]

For instance, Jon had a guest on the other day and they discussed making Jerusalem an "International City". He was all for it which was further justified by him being a Jew. An American Jew albeit with no right to pass judgement on the matter. This of course didn;t stop our enemies from using the clip as fodder for their Agenda.

I just typed in "Jon Stewart Israel" in Youtube.com and got this result:

http://youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=jon+stewart+israel

Take a look through the comments in the first clip, you will see what I mean. The idiot that posted this clip wrote: "Jon rocks! Down with the terrorist state of Israel and the zionist murderers!"

What I want to know, is how did it get to this?

I doubt you'll see the same guy posting Jackie Mason, Ben Stein, or Adam Sandler clips like this in Youtube or on kabobfest.

I watched the clip. That guy's comments were not based on anything that Jon Stewart said.

[minusthejihad]

I watched the clip. That guy's comments were not based on anything that Jon Stewart said.

Yes, I know, that is actually a clip I appreciated when I saw it on cable the first time. I was pointing out the kind of people who use his show for their agenda. Why I am confused, (I've only seen a small amount of Jon's shows so I don't know for sure) is why I see him and his show splashed all over terror apologist blogs. If you can explain that to me, I'd appreciate it. In the meantime, I'll pull the two clips that the haters over at that other blog used for threads. BRB

[minusthejihad]

Birth Pangs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j9YextYF-2k
I assume that if Jon didn't agree with this POV it wouldn't be on his show. Color me biased, but that isn't anything I would put my name on, to me it looks very anti-Israel/anti-US. You tell me.

The Shia Revival
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NdBwWFsIxww
Again, his bias against Israel is shown when he states "Israel galvanizes its people." when he backs his statement that none of the players have any reason to stop fighting.

"Lord knows there's many mistakes Israel has made in the region" (US too)

He promotes the theory that US/Israel's actions cause terrorism when it is the other way around.

His plan:

"Jeruslam: International City"

"Too important for any one country to have the burden of governing"

"Palestinians get access to water, haha!"

"Israel gets their thing, where they can have Chanukah and don't have to put Christmas trees in the malls"

Disgusting for an American Jew to talk like that. F****** disgusting. What's worse is the silence by other Jews after the fact.

[minusthejihad]

Disproportionate Response

How about this one?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=len-7Do4qI0

What think you?

[physics]

Disproportionate Response

How about this one?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=len-7Do4qI0

What think you?

Not funny at all. Disgusting and stupid. It's not something to make fun of. :mad:

If he's so proud of being Jewish, I'd suggest he'd kept his real name and kept his mouth shut about Israel so that anti-Israelis can't use him.

[physics]

Hey, I think this is relevant to the topic. What do you think of "Ali G" played by British Jew Sacha Baron Cohen? He acts and uses satire, which includes nasty stuff about Jews, to expose anti-semitism, but I don't think he's anti-semitic, he's a normal proud Jew. Much more clever than Jon Stewart.

[physics]

Lastly, I consider changing your last name (even for business purposes) as an insult to your family and your people.

Exactly. It was common for Jews to change their names even in America, for whatever reasons. But it's shocking submissive and ridiculous to change your name for business/social reasons, just to "fit in." I can't believe American Jews would still do that in modern days. There's nothing to be afraid or ashamed of.

[physics]

Lastly, I consider changing your last name (even for business purposes) as an insult to your family and your people.

NY WB news weatherman is Irv Gikofsky a.k.a. "Mr.G" It's interesting how he uses this alias on TV. His last name is actually easy to pronounce, but I wonder why he doesn't use it, maybe it sounds too bltanantly Jewish. :rolleyes: I don't see a reason why he shouldn't use his real name.

[tzanchan]

I didn't say that John Stewart made anti-semitic remarks nor were they made on his show. I'm saying his snide attitude about the War on Terror, Israel, and the US makes him a favorite go to guy for the terror apologists at kabobfest.blogspot.com. Last I checked, there were two seperate clips of his on their blog, of course you can check the August archives.

My point is, if I was Jon Stewart and I saw that my show was being used to attack Israel across the blogosphere, and if I was proud of my heritage, I would change whatever I was doing so that I wasn't helping the enemies of my people. Secondly, I wouldn't be going around saying nice things about Michael Moore who clumped Israel together with all other evils in the world. Lastly, I consider changing your last name (even for business purposes) as an insult to your family and your people. But hey, I'm not objecive whatsoever, so you all are free to think what you want.

The reason I started this thread is not to prove that Jon Stewart is a self-hating Jew. I don't know him personally and I can't find too many people who think he is, Jews included. I started this thread because I would like input from others in this forum and see what they think about Jon. I just feel when your content is sourced by our enemies, that you should probably think twice about your content. Either way, the entire Stewart, Franken, Colbert, etc. Comedy Central Clan is so self-righteous and condescending to their viewers it makes me sick. They really think they are sooo much smarter and witty than their viewers whcih is why I can't watch those shows, despite their funny parts. I don't know, you tell me.
his show is an admitted satire. I think that he would scoff at anyone that would use his show for a 'source'.

"I just feel when your content is sourced by our enemies, that you should probably think twice about your content"

Do you know how many quotes that ben gurion has quoted by the enemies....
If one is quoting the jon stewart show as a reliable source, that is their problem. Jstewart hardly thinks his show is 'news'. In addition, it is more disturbing to see actual acts that jews did used by the enemies then fake sources, which is why I would hold my own people to a higher standard than others on this forum.

[Sheherazade]

his show is an admitted satire. I think that he would scoff at anyone that would use his show for a 'source'.

"I just feel when your content is sourced by our enemies, that you should probably think twice about your content"

Do you know how many quotes that ben gurion has quoted by the enemies....
If one is quoting the jon stewart show as a reliable source, that is their problem. Jstewart hardly thinks his show is 'news'. In addition, it is more disturbing to see actual acts that jews did used by the enemies then fake sources, which is why I would hold my own people to a higher standard than others on this forum.

That similar to what I was going to say myself half way through reading this thread. There are many more harmful things that Israel's enemies use that come from staunch Zionists than Jon Stewart. Perhaps one can peruse this forum to find racist and violent posts from "proud Jews". No I am NOT a self hating Jew, but I will be damned if someone will question my Jewishness or anyone else's because of opinions of political issues.

[r2sputin]

The problem with Jon Stewart isn't that he's a self hating Jew. The problem with Jon Stewart is that he's an over-hyped ****head.

[Mediocrates]

His opinions are not materially different from 50% of American Jews. I keep telling you people this.

[Sheherazade]

His opinions are not materially different from 50% of American Jews. I keep telling you people this.

I believe you're correct. But then again we would not be Jews, or the very least we would be "self hating Jews". When did the legendary Jewish sense of humor start to meet its demise? Since when is disagreement taboo in the Jewish community? Even in Talmud there are diametrically opposed points of view.

[tzanchan]

His opinions are not materially different from 50% of American Jews. I keep telling you people this.
it would be difficult to get a good grasp of his opinion from his show. Obiousy he is liberal, but I doubt he would refrain from a joke even if it contrasts with his politics.

[Mediocrates]

OK those opinions are not materially different from....etc. Point is that half of American Jews don't find his positions on Israel offensive or outrageous in the least.

[Mediocrates]

Obiousy he is liberal


Not so much, more of centrist. He was, at least at the beginning pro Iraq war and is no kneejerk liberal peacenik.

[minusthejihad]

I'd venture to say he is too ignorant of history to have a valid opinion on Israeli affairs. Jerusalem an "international city"? Get the F*** out of here Mamzer!

[minusthejihad]

If he's so proud of being Jewish, I'd suggest he'd kept his real name and kept his mouth shut about Israel so that anti-Israelis can't use him.

That's my point exactly.

[minusthejihad]

Hey, I think this is relevant to the topic. What do you think of "Ali G" played by British Jew Sacha Baron Cohen? He acts and uses satire, which includes nasty stuff about Jews, to expose anti-semitism, but I don't think he's anti-semitic, he's a normal proud Jew. Much more clever than Jon Stewart.

Way more clever, funnier, and a lot more talented. All three of his main characters, Ali G, Bruno, and Borat have very heavy inverted anti-semitic themes. He draws hatred out of people, whether Bruno is acting gay at an Alabama football game, Borat is getting rednecks to sing "Throw the Jew Down the Well", or Ali G making fun of religion in general. Personally, I think he does a great service for Jews, demonstrating just how much hatred lies beneath the surface of many people against us. To expose that, and make fun of the haters at the same time is genius.

Can't wait to see Talladaga Nights and Borat!

[minusthejihad]

Exactly. It was common for Jews to change their names even in America, for whatever reasons. But it's shocking submissive and ridiculous to change your name for business/social reasons, just to "fit in." I can't believe American Jews would still do that in modern days. There's nothing to be afraid or ashamed of.

I agree. In the past, in the FSU, you almost had to change your name to avoid persecution, but proud parents like mine said hell to that. Pride was a very scarce commodity in the FSU. If you had some, you held onto it with your life. Other Jews identified themselves as Russian though and life was easier, but the chances of passing on Jewishness to your children was dramatically lower.

Even in the US, Jews had to change their names for many of the same reasons. But that was years ago, today, its a different story. No need to do this anymore.

[minusthejihad]

NY WB news weatherman is Irv Gikofsky a.k.a. "Mr.G" It's interesting how he uses this alias on TV. His last name is actually easy to pronounce, but I wonder why he doesn't use it, maybe it sounds too bltanantly Jewish. :rolleyes: I don't see a reason why he shouldn't use his real name.

In this case, its about marketing. I can understand this, but with Jon Stewart, it's like he needed acceptance.

[minusthejihad]

Do you know how many quotes that ben gurion has quoted by the enemies....
If one is quoting the jon stewart show as a reliable source, that is their problem. Jstewart hardly thinks his show is 'news'. In addition, it is more disturbing to see actual acts that jews did used by the enemies then fake sources, which is why I would hold my own people to a higher standard than others on this forum.

That's your own thing. I'm not feigning objectivity. I'll defend almost any action of the "Jewish People" than try to expose it like many liberal Jews do to Israel. I can see where this humanistic behavior originated from, but I don't condone it. As I say often, there will always be Jews that rush to defend our enemies and assault our own, a lot more than on the other team. I'll make sure to help balance things out. In my book, if you're doing what Jon Stewart is doing, your working against us.

[minusthejihad]

There are many more harmful things that Israel's enemies use that come from staunch Zionists than Jon Stewart. Perhaps one can peruse this forum to find racist and violent posts from "proud Jews".

Our enemies will use anything they can. All I'm saying is it doesn't help to provide them with more ammo, unless you don't care if Israel falls/fails. Based on Jon's attitude, he doesn't share the affinity for Israel that I hope all Jews do and should.


No I am NOT a self hating Jew, but I will be damned if someone will question my Jewishness or anyone else's because of opinions of political issues.

I'm not claiming he's not Jewish. Lord knows how much he mentions it in his humor and takes pot shots at Judaism because "he can".

I'm just saying he is more of the "Jews Sans Fontieres, Jews Against Zionism, Jewschool, Neturei Karta" kind of Jew. You can still be a Jew and bad for the Jewish People in my opinion.

[minusthejihad]

His opinions are not materially different from 50% of American Jews. I keep telling you people this.

I completely agree, and its disgusting. I was at a birthday party debating with some uber-liberal American Jews this weekend and they kept complaining about "our deficit, our deficit!! tax cuts, tax cuts!!" As another Jew at the party said "If you care more about those things than the War on Terror, you'll soon be paying a jizya or you will be dead and our deficit won't be of much importance." They just didn't get it.

I think the problem with American Jews is that they have never lived around truly evil people, capable of such viciousness and maliciousness, that they don't think people can really stoop to such depths of evil. They've got soft. As someone whose family was on a bus in Baku and watched Azerbaijani Muslims drag an Armenian off the bus and beat and shoot him in the street, I'm here to tell you, these types of people exist and want you dead, even if you do think Israel is a bad idea or evil.

[Mediocrates]

http://www.wm.edu/news/?id=3650


J. S. Liebowitz - William & Mary (84) - Commencment speech upon his honorary doctorate.

Quite eloquent, actually.

[physics]

I think the problem with American Jews is that they have never lived around truly evil people, capable of such viciousness and maliciousness, that they don't think people can really stoop to such depths of evil. They've got soft.

Absolutely. This week I was at the tennis U.S. Open and I met this 81 year old American Jew. We cheered on Israeli players. The guy fought in WWII against the Germans. He knows what evil is and he talked about today's evil among Arabs. He supports Israel and talked on and on with a mouthful of Jewish pride. Unfortunately, half of American Jews don't understand.

[physics]

Way more clever, funnier, and a lot more talented. All three of his main characters, Ali G, Bruno, and Borat have very heavy inverted anti-semitic themes. He draws hatred out of people, whether Bruno is acting gay at an Alabama football game, Borat is getting rednecks to sing "Throw the Jew Down the Well", or Ali G making fun of religion in general. Personally, I think he does a great service for Jews, demonstrating just how much hatred lies beneath the surface of many people against us. To expose that, and make fun of the haters at the same time is genius.

Can't wait to see Talladaga Nights and Borat!

I agree. It takes some guts and talent to do what Sacha Baron Cohen does. He exposes the truth that otherwise cannot be exposed by other means. Although he acts stupid and foolish, the real fools and idiots are some of his guests.

[physics]

As someone whose family was on a bus in Baku and watched Azerbaijani Muslims drag an Armenian off the bus and beat and shoot him in the street, I'm here to tell you, these types of people exist and want you dead, even if you do think Israel is a bad idea or evil.

some Liberals are blind and foolish. They don't realize that the Arabs will want to kill them all, whether they are Christian or Jewish. They are just naive.

[Nutts]

some Liberals are blind and foolish. They don't realize that the Arabs will want to kill them all, whether they are Christian or Jewish. They are just naive.

Very well said!

[Nutts]

Some of the world's most famous "anti-Semites" have even been Jews... Karl Marx, Jewish-born philosopher Spinoza, and Jon Stewart are good examples of that... (Sad, very sad...)

[Mediocrates]

Very well said!


"An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

- Winston Churchill

[Nutts]

"An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

(???)

I am not a liberal, I am a Woman of WAR! :D

[BlueEyedJew]

Mediocrates: "An appeaser is someone who feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

- Winston Churchill


shame he never thought of addressing those words to Chamberlin. He might also have considered dropping the odd bomb or two on the train lines leading to concentration camps, but anyway that's another story. Funny man; in the earlier part of the century he also said something to the effect of: "I like to bag myself a N..ger", obviously along with the crocodile!

[Mediocrates]

"Naval Tradition? Naval tradition is rum, sodomy and the lash."

Winston Churchill, First Sea Lord, Royal Navy.

[amoroso]

For instance, Jon had a guest on the other day and they discussed making Jerusalem an "International City". He was all for it which was further justified by him being a Jew. An American Jew albeit with no right to pass judgement on the matter. This of course didn;t stop our enemies from using the clip as fodder for their Agenda.

I just typed in "Jon Stewart Israel" in Youtube.com and got this result:

http://youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=relevance&search_query=jon+stewart+israel

Take a look through the comments in the first clip, you will see what I mean. The idiot that posted this clip wrote: "Jon rocks! Down with the terrorist state of Israel and the zionist murderers!"

What I want to know, is how did it get to this?

I doubt you'll see the same guy posting Jackie Mason, Ben Stein, or Adam Sandler clips like this in Youtube or on kabobfest.

Dude you're wrong. This clip is not anti zionist at all. It is simply comments by some morons who think that because he said something about the war that didn't talk about hizballah then he hates Israel... not even then, they somehow interpret his criticizm of CNN as anti Israel... I don't see it at all ... he said "300 rockets" - that he means Hizballah... he's simply saying that it was a war and the stupid channel kept saying it isn't, well it was, but he didn't blame the Israeli side in it. I wouldn't jump into these conclusions.

[amoroso]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GDOSIdiLsbc

check out the number of times they call hizballah terrorists. I think Jon Stewart is an ok guy, I like him, but of course there's nothing between him and Israel that's true, he's not someone who'll make aliyah here now is he.

[Hebrew Swede]

Jon Stewart does not hate Israel; he's a Jewish-American entertainer who has little knowledge of Israel. If you ask him if he thinks Jerusalem should be an int'l city, he's probably thinking that you're talking about a Jerusalem where people of all religions and ethnicities are welcome, just the way Jerusalem already is today, not that it would cease to be Israels capital and governed by United Nations.

[minusthejihad]

That's why I said, "Jerusalem is already an International City". If Jon truly believed that, he wouldn't have opined about his wonderful and original new idea of: "Let's make Jerusalem an International City!"