Will the US have the backbone to follow through?

[JustPat]

Considering the far reaching implications of President Bush's recent statements, will there be sufficient resolve and tenacity in the US leadership to see any real change in the Mideast?

Consider these articles:
http://www.stratfor.com/fib/topStory_view.php?ID=205121
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/05/international/middleeast/05IRAQ.html

With Egypt increasing its open support ofr the PA, with the change in leadership in Jordan and Syria, and with a never ending "War of Terror", how long will the US stay in the fight?

[Mediocrates]

If/When more attacks like the one yesterday come to America I think the US will resolve to stay in the fight.

[StephenNichols]

I hope America wises up, stops their contribution to the violence and makes real changes that will permanently undermine the motives of the terrorists.

steve

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by JustPat
With Egypt increasing its open support ofr the PA, with the change in leadership in Jordan and Syria, and with a never ending "War of Terror", how long will the US stay in the fight?

Egypt is a growing problem for the U.S.

It is a huge recipient of U.S. aid and yet it is practically an enemy of the U.S. In fact, one of the reasons that Arabs view themselves as America's enemies is the U.S. financing of brutal and corrupt Arab regimes like that of Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak.

The U.S. should cut off aid to Egypt and not think twice about letting Mubarak's regime go down the tubes. Egypt doesn't even supply oil to the U.S., and so there really is only incentive to rid ourselves of this back-stabbing Egyptian albatross.

[minusthejihad]

And I hope America wises up, cuts off aid to ALL Terrorist Supporting nations (ie. Most Arab nations), removes Saddam from power, Assad too, frees Lebanon, uproots terrorists and hangs them all throughout the world so we can come down to the townsquare and beat them nto a pulp like they did Musselini.

Steve,

If you want to truly help out, which I feel you do, why don't you join an organization to undermine terrorism. The first step would be to target all the leaders and parents who brainwash their children from day one, teaching them to kill and to be killed. One you have done that, I can guarantee you that that is the first step to stop the killing in the future. Instead of making it our responsibility to figure out the causes and all that ****, why don't we make it THEIR responsibility to NOT TEACH THEIR BABYS TO HATE AND KILL BEFORE THEY ARE EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO SPEAK. Wouldn't that do it?

[elke]

Originally posted by minusthejihad
And I hope America wises up, cuts off aid to ALL Terrorist Supporting nations (ie. Most Arab nations), removes Saddam from power, Assad too, frees Lebanon, uproots terrorists and hangs them all throughout the world so we can come down to the townsquare and beat them nto a pulp like they did Musselini.


Based on these populations' current modus operandi, they will probably blow them up by human bombs, and call them "martyrs" (possibly, using cats as bombers ;))!

Steve, how would you resolve this situation? Who would you talk to? Who would you send to talk to them? What would you do to prevent these kinds of attacks? The devil, as they say, is in the details. If you are going to criticise the course of action, there has to be an alternative course of action, realistic to implement.

[Mr. Pumps]

I really don't know. There are just so many groups in so many countries than such a broad, general statement as the war agianst all hostile groups around the world, is quite unreal and unattainable.

And confusing to me, are Independence groups like the Tamil Tigers fighting for a Independent homeland from Sri Lanka or ETA fighting for a homeland from Spain, Terrorists as well. What is the distinction.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by StephenNichols I hope America wises up, stops their contribution to the violence and makes real changes that will permanently undermine the motives of the terrorists.

steve Steve:
You may have stumbled onto something! MINES! Isn't that how we keep the NKA out of our hair? Isn't that what keeps the Cubans out of Gitmo? Brilliant!

[elke]

Unreal and unattainable? No. Difficult and prolonged? You bet!

It would be unnecessary to "kill" all such groups militarily. Yes, the causes of discontent will have to be addressed at some point in the future, when the immediate danger is past. The immediate danger has to do with the weapons of mass destruction falling into the wrong hands, and organized support of terrorist activity. Once this support is broken up and relative safety of the WMD is assured, poverty and despair can be handled, - which in turn will marginalize the flakes.

What many "far lefts" forget is that the "underlying causes" are a long-term commitment. Addressing them is a long-term proposition, which cannot be handled under fire. It's like dealing with a suicidal person: you don't just send them to psychotherapy, you commit them to a mental institution first, let them go through an intesive course of drug therapy, and only then go on to the root causes of his/her mental illness.

[James]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JustPat
[B]Considering the far reaching implications of President Bush's recent statements, will there be sufficient resolve and tenacity in the US leadership to see any real change in the Mideast?

Question, why should the U.S. be responsible for Israel determining it's safety against Arab Nations? Israel should be able
to reserve the right of Full Response (Whatever) in reguards to their Enemy!

[JustPat]

Originally posted by James Question, why should the U.S. be responsible for Israel determining it's safety against Arab Nations? Israel should be ableto reserve the right of Full Response (Whatever) in reguards to their Enemy! James:
Allies are in the fight together. The Scriptures are clear on this.
"9 Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their labor. 10 For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him who is alone when he falls, For he has no one to help him up. (Ec 4:9-10).
"Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken." (Ec 4:12-13).
As the best ally that the US has, it is to both our advantage to stand shoulder to shoulder in this fight. I am sure Israel can handle the job, but we can add to her strength by standing at her side. My question is whether or not we have the guts to stick it out to the end?

[James]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JustPat
[B]James:
Allies are in the fight together. The Scriptures are clear on this.
"9 Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their labor. 10 For if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But woe to him who is alone when he falls, For he has no one to help him up. (Ec 4:9-10).

Agreed but when there is division (U.S.), Israel should examine all
options! There are those in America that support the Palestinians
(Arabs) against the Jews. If i were Israel, i would be very careful
before surrendering sovereignty for peace.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by James
Agreed but when there is division (U.S.), Israel should examine all options! There are those in America that support the Palestinians (Arabs) against the Jews. If i were Israel, i would be very careful before surrendering sovereignty for peace. Allies can only be allies where they can be trusted. The US is famous for its flip-flops and thus no ally can ever trust implicitly any commitment we make. Israel must be ready to stand alone if necessary.

And, by the way, sovreignty should never be surrendered as a bargaining tool for peace lest the peace become captivity.