View Full Version : IDF soldiers arrested in connection for selling ammunition to Palestinians
sharonbn
07-17-2002, 07:38 AM
Six IDF soldiers were arrested on suspicion of selling ammunition to the Tanzim and other Palestinian terrorist groups.
Yesterday night, 16th July, Two IDF soldiers were arrested in suspicion of breaking into a civil guard base in the city of Kfar-Saba, stealing firearms and ammunition and selling them to Palestinians. The two soldiers are: Rotem Parnass, 21, from Kfar-Saba and Oded Mulai, resident of a Jewish settlement from south Hebron mountain area.
Yesterday it was published that four IDF soldiers were arrested in the beginning of the week in suspicion of breaking into military storehouses and trading of firearms and ammunition with Palestinian Tanzim members. All four are residents of Adura and Tellem settlements located in sounth Hebron mountain area. Some 5,000 bullets were found in the suspects’ possession at the time of their arrest. The suspects admitted some of the allegations. Military Police investigators estimate that the suspects were motivated from greed for money.
In addition, a Palestinian and Israeli Arab were arrested in suspicion of acting as contacts in the trade.
In a court discussion held today regarding extenuating Parnass’ arrest, the Police representative, Haddad Nasser El-Addin, made a statement saying Parnass was photographed performing observations on the civil guard base. During his interrogation, Parnass authenticated the photographs and confirmd he knew that the firearms are supposed to be delivered to Palestinian hands.
Parnass’ lawyer gave the following statement: “Parnass is only accused for attempted break-in and has no prior convection.†He requested release to house-arrest. The judge, Galit Tzigler, ordered the extension of the arrest by 5 days, saying Parnass interrogation links him with the crime.
According to the Police, further arrests are expected.
sharonbn
07-17-2002, 07:41 AM
Personally, I can't make sense of this at all....
Mediocrates
07-17-2002, 08:05 AM
maybe the IDF should use different size ammo
danholo
07-17-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Mediocrates
maybe the IDF should use different size ammo
It doesn't help since the article states that they also stole firearms.
An M-16 bullet does not fit into a AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifle.
Or that's what I believe.
Belief is not to be mistaken with fact though. :)
Belief is not to be mistaken with fact though.
Well, don't confuse the issues with facts... ;)
There are always a few bad apples, in every bunch. It's unfortunate and in this case, tragic, but people are people. The test of any society is how well it is able to police itself, not whether or not it contains criminal elements.
Besides, they have only been accused as of now, not convicted - "innocent until proven guilty".
cerulean
07-18-2002, 11:52 AM
Israel Insider article
Sale of ammunition to Palestinians by soldiers described as 'tip of the iceberg'
By Ellis Shuman July 18, 2002
http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en.jsp?enPage=ArticlePage&enDisplay=view&enDispWhat=object&enDispWho=Article%5El1253&enZone=Security&enVersion=0&
This article mentions that one of the suspects states that he was blackmailed by threats to his family if he did not go along.
danholo
07-18-2002, 12:54 PM
How ironic when talking about bad apples.
I got the worst reply on a Finnish board from a Finnish antisemite living in Connecticut that used this incident of "proof" of how I should learn a thing or two about my "tribe".
This man claims on not being an antisemite but almost constantly uses antisemitic stereotypes of Jews in his post.
I accused him of being a liar, because he claims not to be an antisemite and what do I get? More "proof" using this article.
I stated that all "tribes" have bad apples in them and if he thinks that lust for money only limits to Jews, I have no idea what's going around in his head.
I am so pissed right now and there are many pro-Israelis on that board but I'm being under constant attack from this man and another that uses "Hoffman-Info's Talmud Truth" for his accusations for proof about Jews and how they are only so-called Jews and about the situation in Israel.
I can't stand this antisemitism! It's driving me mad and I can't stop thinking about it!
I should've probably posted this message on another thread, eh?
sharonbn
07-19-2002, 02:34 AM
danholo,
see if maybe you can get ammunition in the "tackling anti-semitism" section or "free for webmasters" one.
Mediocrates
07-19-2002, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by danholo
How ironic when talking about bad apples.
I am so pissed right now and there are many pro-Israelis on that board but I'm being under constant attack from this man. I can't stand this antisemitism! It's driving me mad and I can't stop thinking about it!
That person is trolling you. Don't worry about it. Just tell them,
"Hey look, it's not a sin to be crazy or retarded but I won't play this baiting game anymore. Seek professional help for whatever your problem is and have a nice day."
If you're being stalked on that board then report it to the admins or moderators.
Gilgamesh
07-21-2002, 02:55 AM
I understad why he is willing to cyber fight an anti semit, losing or running from such a battle makes one feel bad about himself.
Thats what I think you should do:
1. expose and anlyse the anti semitic argument, both so other Jews, aspecialy Israeli born Jews, will see and know how an anti semitic looks like and how it thinks.
2. assamble articals of bad apples of other non-Jews and assume the very same argument the racist anti semitic had used against us. Aren't there Finns of were proven disloyal to their homland? wheren't there Germans or French who stole money? Aren't there phedofails of Belgian decent? Aren't there christian prists who abuse their power to sexualy abuse children? Aren't there Muslam clerics who encouraging racial hartered? Aren't the gentails drunk?
Aren't these all above, "supposably charastaristics" of the gentails tribes?
3. These part I love best: Do nothing but name all the Jews who won nobel prize, elaborate of the ratio of great Jews in comparisment of the tiny jewish population of the world.
Albert Einstain, Jona Salk, Bohr, Mark Shagal, Marcel Yankoo, Yasha Hefetz, Arthur Robinstien, George Gershwein, Rothchilde, Levi Strausse, Stevan Winnberg, Stevan Spilberg, Bob dylen, Lenard Cohen, Natali Portman, woody Alen, Richard Faynmann, Fritz Boaz, Charlie Chaplin, Fritz Haber, Al Joanson, Beni Goodman, Babel, Sobol, Malmud, Bashevis-Zinger, Agnon, Kishon, Mendelson, Helena Rubinstain, Loren Backol, Sinefeld, Bloomberg... its a never ending list. All of this, from a population of about 15 millions all over the world, out of 6 Billion humanbeings.
Mind you, its only a most short and limitid list. you can alway look up to find more. I promise you, It drives every anti semitic wild.
Even in the world of organized crime, we Jews got no rivals and no equals:
Lippke Bouchhalter, chairman of murder Ltd.
Benni "Bugsy" Segal, who made Las Vegas to what it is now
Meir Lansky, one of the few crime lords who died free of old age.
Abraham Rothstain, the father of international crime, inventor of the casino, and father of the modern mafia.
Marks & Engels, world first communists.
Leon Burnstain aka Trotzky - father of the soviet red army and co-founder of the Soviet Union.
As anybody knows the Finn hate the Russians, the communists and were afraid of the red Army.
Also, Finnland become Hitler's ally, an axis member.
One can fight fire with fire against anti semitism in order to prove how stupid and ridiculous their assumptions are. Pluse, you can provok him to even greater degrees of anti semitic declarations, that may get him banned.
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