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danholo
07-24-2002, 04:52 AM
I intended this post to be about methods how terror groups recruit their idiots.

I've heard one pretty efficient way.

For example the other day when Israel bombed the building with Shehada, you could see people raising babies/children high into the air so everybody could see it.
This is one way. After Israeli inflicted casualties there are terror group members asking angered people: "Do you want revenge on Israel for what they did?"
This is a very easy tool to recruit these bombers: anger.

Imagine now, because of the strike on Gaza, how many angered people there are willing to go kill themselves with the education they've been sticked into their head with!

See, when there are no terror groups, there aren't any recruiters and when the main dudes are killed, the brains and the weapon making will be ceased.

What other methods do you know?

Ahmed.M.K
07-24-2002, 04:58 AM
eh ..?!
i think u like whene the isreale army destroys palastenian buldings , :) what do u think the palastenians will do ??
do u think they will not do any thing !? :confused:
they will think of any thing to revenge ! ..

Rafman
07-24-2002, 05:05 AM
stupid post and stupid thread thus far, no offence.


It doesn't really matter how they recruit suicide bobmbers, what matters is how to stop the recruitment. And there is only one way to do it.

I'm a Jew living in Canada, so i have absolutely no power whatsoever to go to the middle-east and talk possible suicide bobmber recuits out of carrying terrorism acts. I have no power to go argue with them how pointless, idiotic to thier cause (and of course criminal, heartless act of killing innocents too) doing so is.

So think about it for a minute, if you were a young kind about to be corrupted to become a suicide bomber, what's the one thing that might change your mind? Bush? Sharon? American media? none of that... The ONLY thing i can thing of would be a fellow palestianian, a friend, neighbour brother whatever. The Palestinian people who oppose suicide bombings, and recognize them for what they are, horrible criminal acts against innocents which furthermore does the exact opposite than advancing thier cause, need to SPREAD THE WORD!!! I know it sounds stupid, but really it's the only way.

Hopefully, if Arafat doesn't get re-elected, a new leader will view it this way too. One can only hope.

danholo
07-24-2002, 05:27 AM
danholo, Jew of Finland welcomes, rafman, Jew of Canada.

Thank you for calling this thread stupid. :)

I agree, if Palestinians wouldn't be indoctrinated to kill themselves, they probably wouldn't go on killing themselves.

Rafman
07-24-2002, 05:30 AM
Rafman, jew of Canada thanks danholo, jew of Finland for welcoming him


Furthermore, Rafman bumps his post total to 9 by the occasion
one more to start my very own thread, woohoo :D

Mediocrates
07-24-2002, 05:32 AM
It's not a 'peer' thing though. It's not like smoking or teen sex. It comes from the top down. From the mosques from the PA from the parents from the schools. The entire infrastructure for young people is focused on this one point. Die for honor. That can only be disassembled with outside force.

Rafman
07-24-2002, 05:36 AM
No i agree with you 100% Mediocrates, it is not a peer thing. It is not a peer thing that will stop the whole of terrorism on Israel.

What i was trynig to say though, is that if i was a plaestinian youth on the verge of carrying out a suicide bombing attack, i think that the only thing in the world that would have a chance of changing my mind about it is a friend, a family member, or someone i already know and trust who can knock some sense into me.

Mediocrates
07-24-2002, 05:59 AM
True to some extent. It depends on who is doing the recruiting. Hamas actively recruits young men from large families who are not the sole source of income to their families. They specifically go after people who are motivated eg. not some pathological simpleton too distraught to go on with another day. Then they paint it as their religious duty.

Other groups I think are less picky. al-Aqsa certainly as a 'secular' organization working hand in glove with the PA cherry picks the weakest most vulnerable most unbalanced people it can find. Hezbollah, is more like a twisted professional army. So I think the motives change as do the tactics. I'm not sure outreach and toughlove strategies would work across the board. (I mean, what would Tim McVeigh do?)

WithinMySelf
07-24-2002, 03:35 PM
well... :)

Then, can you tell me why EVERY Palestinian suicide bomber’s body smells like musk, and it does not disintegrate?
And why dead Israeli bodies smell like an average dead human corps which no one can bear?
…
It is the TRUTH, we all know it!
Jews living now in Palestine can’t deny it!
How about some western media house sends a filming team to dig out a Palestinian grave?
Are you Afraid of allowing them to witness with their own eyes how a 50+ years old bodies of Shohada (Palestinians died in war) still bleeding to this date?
With their bodies retaining their original shapes?
With wounds oozing blood that has a magnificent musk scent which exist only in the upper heavens?
This is beyond your beliefs!
Or maybe your military men didn’t tell you, you poor citizens, about this fact?!
You should go and ask and seek the truth!
…
This is a proof that what Palestinians are doing is accepted by GOD. ^_-
Why?
Because you killed more than 45 of your Prophets!
You sacrifice anything for the sake of money and gold!!
And lastly and most importantly… you believe in the rotting phrase of:
“Live your life to the fullest”!!!
… oooh God…

... ... ...! :rolleyes:
:)

Mediocrates
07-24-2002, 03:45 PM
Eh? I don't mean to be rude....you're entitled to your beliefs but I'm fairly sure you should be having this discussion on a board that is focused on Islamic mysticism.

minusthejihad
07-24-2002, 03:51 PM
Hey WithInMySelf,

Were you within yourself when you watched the fake funeral procession where the guy fell out of the coffin and ran away?

That was funny! Yeah, and there were 100, no, 500, no, 200, no 100, no less than 40 deaths in the Jenin massacre? That was funny too. Except it was all lies. How do you justify the fact that lying is allowed and so prevalent in your religion. I would be ashamed of myself.

WithinMySelf
07-24-2002, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by minusthejihad
Hey WithInMySelf,

Were you within yourself when you watched the fake funeral procession where the guy fell out of the coffin and ran away?
Try another!
That was a very well-put act done by the Israelis to distort the glorious image of Al-Shohada. :p


Originally posted by minusthejihad
That was funny! Yeah, and there were 100, no, 500, no, 200, no 100, no less than 40 deaths in the Jenin massacre? That was funny too. Except it was all lies. How do you justify the fact that lying is allowed and so prevalent in your religion. I would be ashamed of myself.
Me too... :(
Especially when your media pioneered it and have created a full art out of it!
Lying…
No media can compete with yours at that field… I assure you! ^_-
:)

elke
07-24-2002, 04:38 PM
Hey, Within? Have you exhumed any bodies lately? If yes, isn't it criminal? If not, how the hell do you know what they smell like?

Very, very funny, Within! :D

minusthejihad
07-24-2002, 04:38 PM
That was a very well-put act done by the Israelis to distort the glorious image of Al-Shohada.

WithinMySelf = Crazy, beyond belief

ibrodsky
07-24-2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf
well... :)

Then, can you tell me why EVERY Palestinian suicide bomber’s body smells like musk, and it does not disintegrate?
And why dead Israeli bodies smell like an average dead human corps which no one can bear?

Because dead Palestinians smell just like other dead humans. Only brainwashed terrorist supporters believe differently


It is the TRUTH, we all know it!
Jews living now in Palestine can’t deny it!
How about some western media house sends a filming team to dig out a Palestinian grave?
Are you Afraid of allowing them to witness with their own eyes how a 50+ years old bodies of Shohada (Palestinians died in war) still bleeding to this date?
With their bodies retaining their original shapes? With wounds oozing blood that has a magnificent musk scent which exist only in the upper heavens?
This is beyond your beliefs!
Or maybe your military men didn’t tell you, you poor citizens, about this fact?!
You should go and ask and seek the truth! …

We have noticed how advanced science is in the Arab world. You can't even get the oil out of the ground without our help.


This is a proof that what Palestinians are doing is accepted by GOD. ^_-

More accurately, what Muslims call Satan.

ibrodsky
07-24-2002, 04:49 PM
WithinMySelf

Just remember as you wax uneloquent on behalf of Palestinian terrorist barbarians, that you are representing the UAE here.

You believe in a god that approves of mass murderers?

You are so backwards that you think sucide terrorists smell good? How would you know? Because you were told this by other ignorant terrorist supporters?

You entered this forum by announcing that you will be kicked out. That tells us something about your intentions.

But I thank you for exposing yourself for what you are. I hope many Americans read your sinister posts. That should reinforce our determination to fight 21st century Nazism, a.k.a., militant Islam.

WithinMySelf
07-24-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by ibrodsky
You entered this forum by announcing that you will be kicked out. That tells us something about your intentions.
What I meant was that you might kick me out because I am an Arab… … …
Not because of bad intentions…


Originally posted by ibrodsky
Just remember as you wax uneloquent on behalf of Palestinian terrorist barbarians, that you are representing the UAE here.
You are speaking as if you have a certain image of the Arabs of the UAE?!?!
What do you mean by “representing the UAE here”??
Our Arabic image is damaged due to your crimson media!!
You have destroyed our appearance and portrayed a disturbing, ugly and nightmarish picture about us to the other nations!!
You made us into what is now known as the wealthy, sex hungry millionaires and belly dancers…
To you people, we, Arabs, are all the same… we are nothing more than a bunch of murderers, terrorists who like nothing more than killing innocent people for the sake of religion?
And…
You want to take the land away from the Palestinians… and then tell them to get “civilized” by accepting this??


Originally posted by ibrodsky
You are so backwards that you think sucide terrorists smell good? How would you know? Because you were told this by other ignorant terrorist supporters?
No…
Because I was told by religion…
Just the same way you were told in your religion that you have the rights to return to Judea… turning the clock back by thousands of years?

But, let’s put one thing strait (I wish if we were able to put everything strait…). We, Arabs, think as one, feel as one, and wish to work as one… but because of some of our leaders… we can’t confront you in the right manner…
Not to eliminate or kill you like in you sick movies, No, but to take back what belongs to us…
It is only up to the poor Palestinians now to deal with the problem…
…
What I want to say is that we all feel the same towered you…
No matter if I am an Emirati, Kuwaiti, Qatari, Saudi, Egyptian, Moroccan or Tunisian…
We all understand that you seek world domination, because you think of yourselves to be “The chosen ones”… You want to transfer this distasteful world into a huge market for your consumer products. You just keep thinking pathetically about gaining money. You have no concerns about other nations… throwing thousands of tons of grain and crops in the oceans rather than giving those poor starving Africans… just to keep your business balanced…
Then, Islam became a threat for your planes and business… it teaches the people the real meaning of existence… it is not about entertainment, food, sex and pleasure…
But to warship God…
The only God who created this whole universe… from the smallest atom to the biggest galaxy… who created “existence” it self!
We worship him!
Allah… who sent Adam, Noah, David, Solomon, Jesus, loot and many other prophets ending with Mohammad peace be upon them all…
God sent them all to rescue humanity from falling into the hands of the devil…
And you are destroying the real meaning of life and supporting Satan, the cursed devil…
Pushing everybody to kill each other to claim higher ranks and positions…
Brothers and sisters of humanity… every body is dead, if not now then he is dead tomorrow… corpses filling the land, rather than asking for forgiveness, they die a meaningless death…
In Islam, we try to tell you... not to tell but to ask you to search for the truth!!
Islam, the last religion for human kind, the last bridge that leads to God.
Islam, the happiness… Islam, the truth… Islam, the peace… the real peace…
Just look to Mecca and how it radiates God’s blessing through the land of Arabia…
We don’t have floods
We don’t have twisters or typhoons…
We don’t have earthquakes or volcanoes…
No fatal diseases spreading and they are very few and rare to even count their casualties…
The crime rate in the region does not exceed the 2%...
People are living happily and peacefully, worshiping Allah and thanking him for his merci…
What do we, humans, need more than that?
If anyone now is in his mid twenties… and we say that the average life is fifty years… we have only 25 years left!
You could be stricken by a disease or an accident… life is short…
What would you say when you meet the creator of all this…?
What did you preserve for your after life?
What? Tel me?
What would you say???

Enough… …

ibrodsky
07-24-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf

What I meant was that you might kick me out because I am an Arab… … …
Not because of bad intentions…

We don't kick anyone out based on ethnicity. The only way you will get kicked out is by violating our Rules of the Road -- which apply to everyone.


You are speaking as if you have a certain image of the Arabs of the UAE?!?!
What do you mean by “representing the UAE here”??

I meant that we have few participants from the UAE; when you post here remember that thousands of Americans might read what you write.

In other words, why not create a good impression of your country, your people, and your religion by demonstrating that you are reasonable, able to engage in civil discussion, and have good intentions?


Our Arabic image is damaged due to your crimson media!!
You have destroyed our appearance and portrayed a disturbing, ugly and nightmarish picture about us to the other nations!!
You made us into what is now known as the wealthy, sex hungry millionaires and belly dancers…

Unfortunately, most of the world's suicide-terrorists are Arabs and this creates a much worse impression than "belly dancers." Dictators and totalitarian societies don't help, either.

Personally, I am very critical of our media. But your media is even worse, spreading the most juvenile slanders and conspiracy theories.


To you people, we, Arabs, are all the same… we are nothing more than a bunch of murderers, terrorists who like nothing more than killing innocent people for the sake of religion?
And…
You want to take the land away from the Palestinians… and then tell them to get “civilized” by accepting this??

The participants in this forum are individuals with individual opinions. Instead of putting words in other people's mouths, try to engage in civil discussion.

To me, all Arabs are definitely not the same. There are many prominent Arab Americans. There are Arabs who support terrorism and Arabs who support Israel. There are Arabs who just want to live their lives in peace, and others who want to see the whole world go up in flames.

I draw a distinction between the majority of Muslims, who are decent people, and the followers of militant Islam (such as Osama bin Laden) who are profoundly evil.

As far as land "taken away" from Palestinians, I think that if you spend more time studying history (I mean 1850 - 2002, not ancient history) you will find it is not so simple. There were very few Arabs living in what is now Israel in 1890, for example.

To make a long story short, 600,000 Jews found their way to Palestine by 1947. They asked for a very tiny strip of land for their own state. 70% of this land was owned by the state, not individuals. The Arab response was that Arabs should get all of the land for their state, and Jews should get none. Putting aside the propaganda that your media, schools, and mosques like to promote, why couldn't the Arabs let the Jews have a tiny strip of land? Are you so greedy?


No…
Because I was told by religion…
Just the same way you were told in your religion that you have the rights to return to Judea… turning the clock back by thousands of years?

There you go again, putting words in other people's mouths. Perhaps all you know is religion. I study philosophy, history, science, and more.

My support for Israel is not based on religious dogma. Now, if only your interpretation of your religion didn't make you think you must hate Israel...


But, let’s put one thing strait (I wish if we were able to put everything strait…). We, Arabs, think as one, feel as one, and wish to work as one… but because of some of our leaders… we can’t confront you in the right manner…
Not to eliminate or kill you like in you sick movies, No, but to take back what belongs to us…
It is only up to the poor Palestinians now to deal with the problem… …

All Arabs think as one and feel as one? Did you all come off the same factory assembly line? Or are you just Zombies?

I know for a fact that all Arabs don't "think as one, feel as one." You flatter yourself by thinking that no Arabs could possibly think other than you do. Sorry, but that is a very parochial way of looking at the world. And it certainly is not true.


What I want to say is that we all feel the same towered you…
No matter if I am an Emirati, Kuwaiti, Qatari, Saudi, Egyptian, Moroccan or Tunisian…

I am sure there is some truth to this, because individualism is frowned upon (and much worse) in all of those lovely countries.


We all understand that you seek world domination, because you think of yourselves to be “The chosen ones”… You want to transfer this distasteful world into a huge market for your consumer products. You just keep thinking pathetically about gaining money. You have no concerns about other nations… throwing thousands of tons of grain and crops in the oceans rather than giving those poor starving Africans… just to keep your business balanced…

Actuallly, unlike you and your comrades we don't all think as one, because each of us has a brain, and instead of being spoon-fed what to think, we think for ourselves.

I do not believe that any people are "the chosen ones" in the sense you suggest. Perhaps Jews were chosen to introduce the idea of monotheism and absolute morality to the world. But that is just an interesting bit of ancient history.

Unlike you, I believe that modern conflicts must be resolved through modern means and considerations. Preferably through negotiations in good faith, but if necessary to be fought for.

I know your rulers don't want you to know this... your Arab oil Sheikhs have far more money. But don't worry, they don't throw it in the ocean. They build immense palaces for themselves...


Then, Islam became a threat for your planes and business… it teaches the people the real meaning of existence… it is not about entertainment, food, sex and pleasure…
But to warship God…

This is what is known as a "Freudian slip." You allude to threats to our planes. Why don't you just say it? Arab terrorists committed one of the biggest massacres in human history and are proud of it. While we produce big buildings, airplanes, books, medicines, and other things that make life more pleasant and fulfilling, Arab terrorists think only of death and destruction.

But, not to worry, you "warship God." Please, tell us about the weapons on "warship God."


The only God who created this whole universe… from the smallest atom to the biggest galaxy… who created “existence” it self!
We worship him!

Well, aren't you amazing! And I am sure he wants you to massacre 3,000 Americans. Because he created everything, and now he has chosen you to destroy it!

Actually, he created something smaller than the smallest atom. He created the smallest minds.


Allah… who sent Adam, Noah, David, Solomon, Jesus, loot and many other prophets ending with Mohammad peace be upon them all…
God sent them all to rescue humanity from falling into the hands of the devil…
And you are destroying the real meaning of life and supporting Satan, the cursed devil…

Luckily, those wonderful Arabs came to the rescue, crashing airplanes into buildings so that thousands of children would cry their eyes out every night for their never-to-be-seen-again parents.

It never occurs to you that if there is a Satan, he tries to fool ignorant people into thinking that killing 3,000 people is good.


Pushing everybody to kill each other to claim higher ranks and positions…
Brothers and sisters of humanity… every body is dead, if not now then he is dead tomorrow… corpses filling the land, rather than asking for forgiveness, they die a meaningless death…

And we know who to thank for that!


In Islam, we try to tell you... not to tell but to ask you to search for the truth!!
Islam, the last religion for human kind, the last bridge that leads to God.
Islam, the happiness… Islam, the truth… Islam, the peace… the real peace…
Just look to Mecca and how it radiates God’s blessing through the land of Arabia…
We don’t have floods
We don’t have twisters or typhoons…
We don’t have earthquakes or volcanoes…
No fatal diseases spreading and they are very few and rare to even count their casualties…
The crime rate in the region does not exceed the 2%...
People are living happily and peacefully, worshiping Allah and thanking him for his merci…
What do we, humans, need more than that?

It seems that many people living right in the heart of Arabia feel the need to fly airplanes into buildings, blow up boats next to big ships, blow up embassies, and generally kill, kill, kill, and destroy, destroy, destroy. Oh, what happy and peaceful souls they must be!


If anyone now is in his mid twenties… and we say that the average life is fifty years… we have only 25 years left!
You could be stricken by a disease or an accident… life is short…

But I thought you had little disease in the Islamic paradise-on-earth? Why then, do your people live much shorter lives than we do. Our average life expectancy in the USA is 75 years.


What would you say when you meet the creator of all this…?
What did you preserve for your after life?
What? Tel me?
What would you say???

I would ask him what the Hell he was thinking when he created ignorant, hateful people who think God loves terrorists.

cerulean
07-24-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf
Then, can you tell me why EVERY Palestinian suicide bomber’s body smells like musk, and it does not disintegrate?
And why dead Israeli bodies smell like an average dead human corps which no one can bear?


Does this apply to the bone fragments of bombers that are embedded inside their Israeli victims?

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_635917.html
Quote from the article:
In one 31-year-old woman, the scan revealed dense clusters of fragments in her neck, breast and groin but they were bone not metal.

Please examine all the claims you have been told about miraculous body odors with a critical mind. All human bodies are subject to the same processes of decomposition regardless of race or religion. For a look at how crazy stories get started, look at this urban legends site: http://www.snopes.com . What you have been told about suicide bombers' bodies is just another variant of an urban legend.

danholo
07-25-2002, 06:56 AM
WithinMySelf,

I would suggest that you go study Judaism from credible sources, not the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

Jews are called the "chosen people" because of one reason.
When people were sacrificing their kids to statues, G-d gave the Jews a mission. A mission to create a perfect nation (under G-d) to be an example to all other nations.
Even though Greeks "invented" civilization, most of them were puny pedophiles, even our most admired philosopher Plato.
The mission of the Jews is very hard and that is the reason "the Land vomited us out".
To keep the Torah and it's moral command is a burden that others are not required to do, even Jews don't go by most of these commands (just Noahide laws).

This is a Jewish explanation in short of what Jews are supposed to do. Not you're Jewish steretype that Jews are murderers, liars and thieves and polytheists. On the contrary, Judaism was the first ideology that forbids us from these acts. I may remind you that it was our people who invented the worship of one all powerful entity, not your's.

thatwhy
07-25-2002, 07:12 AM
They are finding bombers from here. Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore. The terrorist are finding people that been to army who knows about bombs and explosive material.

Some muslim here in south-east asia support terrorist at USA.

Intellectualme
07-25-2002, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by danholo


Jews are called the "chosen people" because of one reason.
When people were sacrificing their kids to statues, G-d gave the Jews a mission. A mission to create a perfect nation (under G-d) to be an example to all other nations.

On the contrary, Judaism was the first ideology that forbids us from these acts. I may remind you that it was our people who invented the worship of one all powerful entity, not your's.


True.. Judaism was the first monotheistic religion. But GOD have that mission to two other religions as well, and all three have very similar ways of performing that mission.

Intellectualme
07-25-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Mediocrates
Eh? I don't mean to be rude....you're entitled to your beliefs but I'm fairly sure you should be having this discussion on a board that is focused on Islamic mysticism.


Islamic Mysticism??? The stuff he says is not called Islamic Mysticism. That is belief in GOD through meditation and Prayer.

minusthejihad
07-25-2002, 12:02 PM
WithinMyBrainwashedMind,

Enough… …

Yep. Exactly. I really feel sorry for you and for all the brainwashed people on this earth.

I also feel sorry for you that your life expectancy is only 50 years. Too bad you don't live in America, you could possibly live another 20 years or more.

And, I would advise you not to speak on behalf of all Arabs or Muslims. I have several Arab friends (Muslims and Catholics) and sevral Muslim friends (Asians, African-Americans, Indians, Persians, Egyptians, and yes Palestinians), and not one of them, even in the hottest debate, spouted pre-programmed, spiteful, conspiratory tripe like you.

My Palestinian friend Raed is one of my best friends, we were roommates in college, and we have shared food and conversation with each other's family, and still share great times together when I visit him or vice versa. And you know why this is possible? Because we both live in America where we are both free to practice whatever religion we choose and we have respect for each other and their beliefs.

If your religion teaches you Peace, than why are you so hateful?

And no offence, but I've never heard the stereotype that Arabs are sex hungry. In fact, I've never even heard of sex and Arabs in the same paragraph before. From all I've heard, Arabs either barely have sex or it's no good at all, except Raed and his cousins are hell bent of changing that myth. You go guy!

Micah
07-25-2002, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by ibrodsky
All Arabs think as one and feel as one? Did you all come off the same factory assembly line? Or are you just Zombies?


It's obvious you've never watched Star Trek...

He speaks of the Borg silly :p

Gilgamesh
07-25-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Intellectualme



True.. Judaism was the first monotheistic religion. But GOD have that mission to two other religions as well, and all three have very similar ways of performing that mission.

All I see, is ONE little nation with a national religion, us Jews, one look-alike, user friendly (chrisitanity) and one FUBAR wannabee (you guss who...)

WithinMySelf
07-25-2002, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by minusthejihad
I also feel sorry for you that your life expectancy is only 50 years. Too bad you don't live in America, you could possibly live another 20 years or more.

Why… …?
To see more people suffer?
Or to go through more meaningless fight??
…
Dear, let me tell you that I am extremely happy with my life in the gulf.
And nothing, absolutely nothing can change that.
America… hehehehe.
You people are very proud of your selves… amazing…
The death lurks your streets at night.
Crime at its best.
Racism in its glorious forms.
Your cops sell drugs to your gangsters and passersby.
The heavy taxes…
The crazy life style of fast food, fast friends, fast smiles fast… etc…
The sickening life style of boyfriend, girlfriend and dating.
Your youths don’t know what an “engagement ring” is or what the term “fiancé” means… until the age of twenty maybe.
Having children before marriage.
Then you kick them out of the house when they are 18 years old.
Hehehe… America…
Where devours is a user-friendly term between newly married couples…
Where women are treated as sex object and used in media so cheaply… pushing them to form a more stupid movement known as feminism…
They forced them selves to go out and work to prove for the men that they are capable of doing everything… just like them, while in reality they are equal and the really don’t need to do so!
America…
Where cannibalism become official…
Where walking the beaches naked is the highest form of modernity…
Where justice lost her hope in regaining her sight…
Where the sane becomes insane…
America… the old wooden marionette tied by the ageing strings to the invisible six-edged star…
…
No, thank you…
I prefer to eat palm-trees date, drink camel milk and live in tents rather than living in your vortex of lets-pretend-to-be-happy messy complex…
:)

WithinMySelf
07-25-2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Micah


It's obvious you've never watched Star Trek...

He speaks of the Borg silly :p
… …
Tickle me with a crane. ^_^

Intellectualme
07-26-2002, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Gilgamesh


All I see, is ONE little nation with a national religion, us Jews, one look-alike, user friendly (chrisitanity) and one FUBAR wannabee (you guss who...)


Although that is what you see... unfortntely thats not how things really are no matter what you believe. That fact is that there are three GOD given religions. The solution to the conflict will not come by trying to degrade one or the other.

ibrodsky
07-26-2002, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf

Why… …?
To see more people suffer?
Or to go through more meaningless fight??
…
Dear, let me tell you that I am extremely happy with my life in the gulf.
And nothing, absolutely nothing can change that.
America… hehehehe.

The villain pulls out his blood-stained dagger...


You people are very proud of your selves… amazing…
The death lurks your streets at night.
Crime at its best.
Racism in its glorious forms.

Meanwhile, to this day Arabs in North Africa still buy and sell black slaves.


Your cops sell drugs to your gangsters and passersby.

You watch too much American TV.


The sickening life style of boyfriend, girlfriend and dating.
Your youths don’t know what an “engagement ring” is or what the term “fiancé” means… until the age of twenty maybe.
Having children before marriage.
Then you kick them out of the house when they are 18 years old.
Hehehe… America…

Frustrated Arab men keep their women in potato sacks. Why? Because a woman who shows an inch of her skin is "asking" to be raped.

Believing their religion promises "martyrs" a place in Paradise with 72 virgins, lecherous Palestinian men get in line to blow themselves up.


Where devours is a user-friendly term between newly married couples…
Where women are treated as sex object and used in media so cheaply… pushing them to form a more stupid movement known as feminism…
They forced them selves to go out and work to prove for the men that they are capable of doing everything… just like them, while in reality they are equal and the really don’t need to do so!

When what they really want is to have no freedom and no rights, and to be viewed as evil temptation.


America…
Where cannibalism become official…
Where walking the beaches naked is the highest form of modernity…,
Where justice lost her hope in regaining her sight…
Where the sane becomes insane…

Makes you want to run out and drive jumbo jets into office buildings filled with people like a good little Satan's helper, doesn't it?


America… the old wooden marionette tied by the ageing strings to the invisible six-edged star…

Typical slander from people who offer the world only totalitarianism, dictatorship, barbarism, ignorance, intolerance, hate, and unearned wealth.
…

No, thank you…
I prefer to eat palm-trees date, drink camel milk and live in tents rather than living in your vortex of lets-pretend-to-be-happy messy complex…

You left out plotting to destroy the west, spreading viscious slanders, supporting terrorists, blaming all of your problems on Israel, ...

Gilgamesh
07-26-2002, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Intellectualme



Although that is what you see... unfortntely thats not how things really are no matter what you believe. That fact is that there are three GOD given religions. The solution to the conflict will not come by trying to degrade one or the other.

1. Although that is what you see... unfortntely thats not how things really are no matter what you believe.

2. 1.3 Billion muslems with all the oil money of the world, can't evict 5.5 million Jews from their rightful lands, not even 1/4 million "settlers" from Israel's cultural and historical heart lands.
If THATS not some proof of the power of will of the Jews or in what team G-d plays... I don't know better one.

3. I'm not the one responsible of Islam degredation... you guys done a hell of a degredation work all by yourselves. It only a matter of time before car bombs and suicide mass murderer will start doing their worse else where in the world... then the rest of the world will see things OUR way, however bone headed some europeans sometimes are.

minusthejihad
07-26-2002, 10:57 AM
WithinMyDarkAgedWorld,

The Arabs in America seem to love it here and not want to leave, yet they are Muslim too, are they evil Americans too?

Your right, us Jews have a conspiracy to dominate the world. What else is new? EVERYONE in the world knows that! ha ha. You are so programmed its silly. Take your hand off the camels nipple and get your head out of his ass firts, before speaking, otherwise you look funny and sound murmurred. What kind of camel anyway? Dromadary or Bactrian? Or you haven't learned the difference probably?

So be a good little sheep and keep fighting your Jihad. I'm sure it will work someday! HE he! Anyway, you outnumber us so greatly, why are you so WEAK? So INEFFECTIVE? and so UNEDUCATED? How can this be? Allah knows best, ask him.

cerulean
07-26-2002, 11:30 AM
About Arabs trading in slaves in Africa - please look what is happening in Sudan. Here's a very brief start:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107996.html


Originally posted by WithinMySelf
No, it is forbidden in Islam…


Take a look at these two justifications for slavery by a Muslim scholar:
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=1928
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=5482

Perhaps some Muslim theologians want to end slavery, but this is not a universal belief among Muslims.

WithinMySelf
07-26-2002, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by minusthejihad
Your right, us Jews have a conspiracy to dominate the world. What else is new? EVERYONE in the world knows that! ha ha. You are so programmed its silly. Take your hand off the camels nipple and get your head out of his ass firts, before speaking, otherwise you look funny and sound murmurred. What kind of camel anyway? Dromadary or Bactrian? Or you haven't learned the difference probably?
Speaking filth as usual …
No wander… manners have no meaning in your society…

cerulean
07-26-2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf
Problems? Our only problem is Israel it self! Nothing else. :)

You really believe all problems the Arab world has will be gone if there is no Israel? Many Arabs themselves know better.

Take a look at this discussion of the Arab Human Development Report 2002:
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/02/international/middleeast/02ARAB.html
Here is the actual report:
http://www.undp.org/rbas/ahdr/

minusthejihad
07-26-2002, 12:05 PM
Speaking filth as usual …
No wander… manners have no meaning in your society…

Well, what is it? A dromedary or bactrian camel you get your milk from? Do you know? Or does our Western Science have to bail you out agian like its doing in the the territories, where Palestinians NEED Israeli scientists to combat Mad Cow or Hoof and Mouth Disease. Or do you lack the education to even know what those are?

By the way, its very elegant and hypocritical of you to spout your hateful, malignant rhetoric at the West, while using a computer! Ha ha! Or are you going to claim that Arabs invented those and the internet, or the fiber-optics or satelites that it takes to get your bogus message over here to us.

If you hate America so much, why do you use its technology? BECAUSE YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!


And for the rest of the board members: Isn't the downside of this technology that links us together, is that millions of armchair activists from puny little, irrelavent countries, get to voice their hatred of the countries that created this medium.

I love it when Arab countries try to bite the hands that feed them. Very intelligent.

And Within, don't think that more and more Americans and Westerners who provide your country with support do not notice your true intentions. This is exactly why less Americans are buying gasoline from companies that buy oil from countries like yours. So, please, I personally welcome you spouting your tripe, it helps us WORLD DOMINATING JEWS out in the long run. Thanks! Oh, lets hear more please!

danholo
07-26-2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by WithinMySelf

Speaking filth as usual …
No wander… manners have no meaning in your society…

Western or Jewish?

Might I educate you that is was the Jews that were the first society to have laws on manners.
Manners are the heart of Jewish thinking, which is the basis of western thinking too.
"Do not do to your neighbour what you would not want to be done to you." This is the central idea of Jewish and western thinking. This is what manners is.
So, before you come talking scheit, go study yourself, because your education system seems to be teaching you BS.

tandem
07-26-2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by danholo
I intended this post to be about methods how terror groups recruit their idiots.

See, when there are no terror groups, there aren't any recruiters and when the main dudes are killed, the brains and the weapon making will be ceased.

What other methods do you know?
money is one of them. blow yourself up, get your 70 virgins or whatever in heaven, and your family will be taken care of financially. where does the money for the families come from? fundraisers in saudi arabia, mostly, and of course, iran, syria, iraq, just to name a few. to young palestinians, this is no longer a matter of only blowing yourself up in the name of some b/s cause. instead, they are offered financial incentives for their "martyrdom"