View Full Version : Bibi Still "The man" on TV
12-03-2001, 08:23 PM
Anyone notice how Bibi, while doing the TV news circuit still sounds so much better than any other Israeli representative?
Yes, he is a brilliant orator and a conceptual thinker.
I heard him speak at a shul recently.
The problem with him, however, is that he comes through as narcissistic. The pronoun "I" is the most frequently used word in his vocabulary.
He is ambitious - this is good. But he seems to be way too ambitious for his own good and the good of Israel. That's too bad because he is so talented.
05-03-2002, 01:13 PM
I heard him talk at the Washington rally, great speaker, I think he should be the next PM
you are so whack.
bibi? good for israel?
i suppose you advocate shooting a person in the head for a toothache?
plus he looks like fred flintstone.
07-22-2002, 04:01 PM
Mr. Bibi is a outrageous capable speaker with a gifted presence and a commanding voice. Excellent and informative speaker infront of the camera and a Man I respect deeply.
Anyone notice that Peres would be fittingly at home in a Bram Stoker Novel.....that is one wacky hairdo.
07-23-2002, 05:32 PM
Is it really Benjamin or Benyamin.....I don't get which one is correct'
And Barak looks more like Fred Flintstone on T.V, despite a very respectable military career.
Come on, people - this is not a Mr. Israel beauty contest. :D Mr. Pumps, do you know about Shimon Peres' military career? I would venture to say, you may be quite impressed, wacky hairdo notwithstanding.
07-23-2002, 05:57 PM
So are Benjamin, benyamin, Binyamin all correct first name spellings for Mr. Netanyahu. Quite alot of different spellings for one individual. I just don't want to make myself look stupid.
I swear Perez would pass for Gary Oldman played version of Bram Stroker Dracula thanks to that far out....unique hairstyle he has. He could easily pass as a Romanian count.....he has that cool Gothic look about him....just like Ozzy Ozzborne.
07-23-2002, 06:10 PM
I know that Perez is was actively involve in military operation as War hero Moshe Dayan war in the great victories in 1967 and 1973, :D the man incidently is in the Ikara Warriors videogame, a patched eyed military hero no one would screw with with anyday.
What could a Michael Wittman or Rem Ulanov could do with today's high tech Tanks.......my God the possibilities.
I have always wonder since Israel got in some many Tank battles, who is Israel's best Tanker of all time with the most kills?
I can imagine his personal score as tens of Tanks if not more.
07-24-2002, 02:22 AM
Here is another shocker for you. I am dead sure very few Sinkaporeans know this issue. But this issue has been hot news for more than a decade in the US and Israel. The issue is about Jonathan Pollard, an American Jew, who betrayed his own country, the United States of America â€“ by secretly stealing highly classified info and passing it to Israel.
What shocks most Americans is the way Pollard and the rest of Israel sees the whole issue. Instead of admitting Pollard committed treason, it was portrayed that Israel had the right to obtain the classified info from the US by means of espionage as committed by Pollard!
Cannot believe it? Never heard of Pollard? Heh heh. As I said, you are controlled by the media. Here are the links. If you care to read, you will know what the heck I am talking about.
From ABC News
â€¦.Pollard, now 44, was sentenced in 1987 to life in prison for passing tens of thousands of pages of classified U.S. informationâ€”satellite photographs, weapon systems data, and moreâ€”to the Israelis.
Pollard was arrested in 1985 outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington, where he reportedly was trying to ask for political asylum. At the time, he was a U.S. Navy intelligence officer with high-level security clearanceâ€¦.
â€œPollard ranks among the four most serious cases of national security damage in the history of this country.â€
â€”prosecutor Joseph diGenova
Another link to give you more background:
But look at how Israelis paint Pollardâ€™s caseâ€¦â€¦
Take note of how they worm their way, making a traitor and a conspirator, an American Jew who spied for Israel the victim, and US who prosecuted the traitor, as the tyrant!
(bold words are my highlights, non-italics are my comments)
Jonathan Pollard was a civilian American Naval intelligence analyst. In the mid 1980's (circa 1983-1984), Pollard discovered that information vital to Israel's security was being deliberately withheld by certain elements within the U.S. national security establishment.
Israel was legally entitled to this vital security information according to a 1983 Memorandum of Understanding between the two countries. â€¦..
What? Israel can suka suka interpret what they want?
The information being withheld from Israel included Syrian, Iraqi, Libyan and Iranian nuclear, chemical, and biological warfare capabilities - being developed for use against Israel. It also included information on ballistic missile development by these countries and information on planned terrorist attacks against Israeli civilian targets
When Pollard discovered this suppression of information and asked his superiors about it, he was told to "mind his own business", and that "Jews get nervous talking about poison gas; they don't need to know."
He also learned that the objective of cutting off the flow of information to Israel was to severely curtail Israel's ability to act independently in defense of her own interests.
Pollard was painfully aware that Israeli lives were being put in jeopardy as a result of this undeclared intelligence embargo. He did everything he possibly could to stop this covert policy and to have the legal flow of information to Israel restored. When his efforts met no success, he began to give the information to Israel directly.
If you go to the weblink, you will notice that the words â€œIsraeli livesâ€ underlined above, leads to a link. Guess what that link is about. Here it is: http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1992/060092.htm
Judge for yourselves if that story in the link was worded such that it was meant to be bible truth, or an emotional plea to make it look Jonathan was the victim of US tyranny, by witholding such info.
Now look at next paraâ€¦â€¦.
Jonathan Pollard was an ideologue, not a mercenary. The FBI concluded after nine months of polygraphing that Pollard acted for ideological reasons only, not for profit. This fact was recognized by the sentencing judge who declined to fine Pollard. (See the addendum for further details.) â€¦..
What?????? You mean to say that Pollard is right because he received no money??? What kind of screwed up logic is that?
Furthermore, on May 12, 1998, Israel formally acknowledged Jonathan Pollard had been a bona fide Israeli agent. This fact wiped out any remaining doubt about Jonathan Pollard's motives. Being an official agent is, by definition, the polar opposite of being a mercenary.
In 1985, his actions were discovered by the U.S. government. His instructions from Israel were to seek refuge in the Israeli embassy in Washington. When Pollard and his former wife sought refuge there, they were at first received and then summarily thrown out into the waiting arms of the FBI.
Jonathan Pollard never had a trial. At the request of both the U.S. and Israeli governments, he entered into a plea agreement, which spared both governments a long, difficult, expensive and potentially embarrassing trial.
Carry on reading yourself.
The above shows a very worrying trend about the mindset of Jews, who work in American institutions â€“ including arms of the govt. They are more interested in the welfare of Israel, than US itself.
Will comment on this more at a later stage. God willingâ€¦â€¦..
This tactic of misrepresentation may work in Singapore, but not here. jonathanpollard.org is obviously not an Israeli site, but the site created by people who believe in Pollard's innocence.
07-24-2002, 03:55 AM
Actually he's held downstate from me at the Federal unit in Butner, NC.
Pollard made the cardinal sin of violating the terms of his own plea bargain by going ballistic on the media about how he was being railroaded. This was the one thing the Govt told him not to do. And it had a large part in his sentencing. He has also been a VERY difficult prisoner constantly writing letters to complain about everything from the quality of the bedsheets to the food and his general treatment. He frequently refuses to cooperate and this does not endear him to anyone.
There was no trial because of the plea bargain.
What Pollard did was pass classified information to the Israelis. He never claimed that he did not. He did not do it for money (maybe for fame ~~). And received a sentence (see above) that was much more harsh than similar cases have received which usually run in the 10-20 year range.
Wildly inaccuracurate propaganda is a wonderful thing. It's so easy to refute. I think you will find your stay here uncomfortable because we are much better informed than you are.
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