Collapse of Jerusalem Wall Could Inflame Muslim World

[L@mplighterM]

Collapse of Jerusalem Wall Could Inflame Muslim World


By Julie Stahl
Jerusalem Bureau Chief
August 30, 2002


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www.CNSNews.com - Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) - The collapse a bulging wall surrounding Jerusalem's Old City could spark Islamic violence from Cameroon to Indonesia, an Israeli expert said here on Friday.

Israeli archaeologists and Jerusalem's mayor warned this week that the giant stones in the upper portion of the wall are in imminent danger of toppling and crushing worshippers below if the wall is not repaired soon. But Muslim authorities are refusing to allow any work to be done.

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I hope that the Muslim authorities allow repairs to the wall. If however they will not allow the repairs and the wall should fall I hope it falls onto the mosque.

[Teacake]

If only the entire mosque would collapse. Oh what a happy day that would be.

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by Teacake
If only the entire mosque would collapse. Oh what a happy day that would be.

With or without occupants? :-)

[5-alef]

you might ignore the fact that they well maybe wanting to achieve that goal.
to bring the warth of the Islamic world upon Israel and to open a war against it, in order to anihilate it.
who would be interested that the WAKF is responsible for it? they'll blame Israel for it anyway.

the PA have been trying to bring Islamic countries into the conflict and they may have found a way to.

[Moshe Yess]

Here is a url with a good diagram of the Dome problem. It will collapse.


http://www.templemountfaithful.org/News/20020829.htm



FACTOIDS: The Wall aboveground consisted of 24 rows of stones of different dressing and age, reaching a total height of 18 m. with 6 m. above the level of the Temple Mount.

18 meters of dirt is 59.05512 feet of dirt behind that bulging Southern Wall.

So we are looking at 59.05512 feet of vertically elevated earth (above ground level) that is presently losing its containment wall's integrity. Plus the weight of the stones above the breach point will augment the breach.

Plus the Southern Wall bulge is over 100 feet long and presently is out of straight alignment (i.e. bulging) by 3 feet!!!! When it gives... the earth behind the breach will have nothing to stop the chain reaction. Nature abhors a vacuum. Higher concentrations and mass weight of the earth via gravity will seek lesser states. It will be a continuous chain reaction erosion backwards until the Dome collapses!

Here's a little ditty from Isaiah. We have here the miracle of Prophecy and Prophecy about to be fulfilled.

G-d will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the insult of his people shall he take away from off all the earth; for the Lord has spoken it. And it shall be said on that day, Behold, this is our G-d; we have waited for him, and he will save us; this is the Lord; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation. For in this mountain shall the hand of the Lord rest, and Moab shall be trampled down in his own place, like straw is trampled down in the dunghill. And he shall spread out his hands in the midst of them, as he who swims spreads out his hands to swim; and he shall bring down their pride together with the plunder of their hands. And the high fortifications of your walls shall he bring down, lay low, and bring to the ground, even to the dust." (Isaiah 25)


Rabbi Moshe Yess

[Steve]

This is indeed exciting. It reminds me of something I saw when I was researching biblical prophecies. I cam across this (http://www.cephasministry.com/news_arafat_holy_sites_are_first_target.html) from a Christian site. You can ignore the latter stuff, when it gets into the Christian prophecy stuff, but the beginning is very interesting. It describes an interview that Yasser Arafat had with Christiane Amanpour, where is gets rough near the end when she brings up an apparently touchy subject. Read below (and note the date...):


Source: The Cutting Edge Ministry: NEWS BRIEF: "Arafat: Holy Sites Are First Targets", YOWUSA.COM, September 11, 2000, by Marshall Masters, http://www.yowusa.com/Archive/September2000/11SEP00a/11sep00a.html

"In a heated interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour last Thursday, Yassir Arafat may have very well revealed where the next conflict will begin ... The full interview was aired Sunday morning on CNN’s World News program, during which Arafat realized that he had slipped up and then abruptly ended the interview by pulling off his clip-on microphone. He then brusquely departed the interview cubicle surrounded by Palestinian staffers with very concerned looks on their faces. Something was said that should have not been said."

"During most of his interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour he skillfully deflected her questions with the usual pat answers ... Undaunted, Amanpour returned to the same issue of shared sovereignty from a completely different angle by asking Arafat if he would prolong the peace process. Amanpour asked, 'Would it be safer and better for you to extend this state of affairs that certain people would say is a sellout?” Arafat responded: '... I had mentioned and promised my people, my nation, my religions, the Christianity and Islam and I'm not going to betray them. I will continue to liberate all Islamic and Muslim holy places. If not (pointing to himself) another one will come along to liberate it'."

"At this point, Arafat’s body language took a pronounced shift. It was obvious that Amanpour’s determined efforts were annoying him. He shifted from his usual relaxed demeanor, and began leaning forward in his chair and began insistently pointing a finger at Amanpour ... by this time in the interview Amanpour was likewise becoming more intense if not personal. That was when she framed her next question with a simple statement that obviously inflamed Arafat. 'Your people want an economic future'.”

"The impact of this simple statement was obvious, Amanpour was essentially implying is that economics is the main objective for the majority of Palestinians. With that statement the tension between them rose another notch and Arafat said: 'We Palestinians our first targets is our land (the land of the holy places)'. At this point, Arafat leaned towards her and asked her if she knew what the holy places were, and after expressing several choppy thoughts suddenly leaned back in his chair and immediately changed his body language. The change was unmistakable. He obviously realized that he had said something that he would not have said, were he in control of the interview. He feigned a quick smile and announced that the interview was over. He then began pulling the clip-on microphone from his lapel and a very concerned Palestinian aide walked onto the set to help him undo the wireless microphone device." He left without saying "goodbye", leaving a very shocked Amanpour.

Yassir Arafat is an accomplished public speaker and has an excellent command of the English language {Ibid.], so it is highly unlikely he would fail to understand the meaning of words, he uses when speaking English, even implied meanings.

But, Arafat also possesses another deep, dark secret, which it looks as though he may have let slip out of the bag here; he knows the exact military and paramilitary plan by which the Arabs are going to attack Israel in the not-too-distant future! When I was in Army Intelligence, we were constantly reminded to always be on an active, strong defensive mental posture so that we would not accidentally reveal secret material in casual conversation with a person not properly cleared to receive it.

I believe it highly likely that Arafat has accidentally let slip two (2) very important parts of the Illuminati Plan to produce Antichrist. Once he realized how badly he slipped up, he abruptly and rudely terminated the interview. The very next day, on Friday, September 8, Arafat was suddenly on a plane, heading back to Gaza. The Illuminati must have been absolutely furious with him over his gaffe.

Let us now examine this most important interview.

The first thing that caught my eye was his statement "I had mentioned and promised my people, my nation, my religions, the Christianity and Islam and I'm not going to betray them. I will continue to liberate all Islamic and Muslim holy places. If not (pointing to himself) another one will come along to liberate it." I bet you did not know that Arafat was fighting on your behalf to "liberate" Jerusalem and the Holy Places, did you? At first glance, I thought Arafat was simply claiming that he was working on behalf of the Christians, even though not one thinking Christian in the world would share that view.

But, then, my heart stopped as I re-read the last phrase of this sentence: Arafat said that, if he could not liberate Jerusalem and the Holy Places from Jewish control, "... another one will come along to liberate it." We Born Again, Bible-believing Christians ARE expecting "another one" to soon be on the world scene, do we not? We do, and even though He will call himself "The Christ", we know he will be Antichrist. Arafat knows Antichrist is coming, and he considers him to be his ally in the struggle against the Jews!
..... (skipping ahead a bit)

“We Palestinians [pause] our first targets is our land -- the land of the holy places.”

Wow!! Did you catch the import of this statement? First of all, Arafat admitted that his military has targets planned for destruction, a statement that clearly reveals his plans of WAR against Israel!! But, secondly, Arafat reveals that the very first targets against which Palestinians would train their guns are the Muslim Holy Places! Certainly, if the Dome of the Rock were reduced to a pile of rubble, Arabs all over the world would want to blame Israel and would do so gladly if the Palestinians disavowed responsibility and blamed the Jews first. Instantly, in the "twinkling of an eye", one billion Arabs would be screaming blood for those poor, 6 million Jews. One billion to 6 million -- and the Israelites will win again! God's glory is truly about to be revealed to the world.


I think it's rather interesting, doesn't everybody else? Now we know it's going to be Moshiach that'll get all this happening, or perhaps just an act of G-d?

[tkcteccfrs]

The Temple Mount Is In Our Hands?

Ha’aretz is reporting that Herut MK Michael Kleiner is petitioning the High Court for permission to visit the Temple Mount. Meanwhile there have been numerous reports in the last weeks that the southern retaining wall of the Temple Mount is in danger of collapse due to the mismanagement and willful destruction of the site by Muslim Wakf officials. This has created a situation in which thousands of people may be killed when the wall collapses. This will certainly be blamed on Israel and should serve as a splendid excuse to murder lots of Jewish children. Hopefully this calamity will draw attention to the fact that despite our victories in 1967, the Temple Mount is still under Muslim control 35 years later. Why is it that the MK who most represents the dream of a secure Israel must petition the High Court to visit the site while the Jew murdering savages are being given free hand to destroy it?


G-d willing we will live to see the day when the words spoken by Commander, Motta Gur in 1967 become reality, "The Temple is in our hands! The Temple Mount is in our hands!." A good way to start would be to demolish the Muslim abominations that currently disgrace the site.

American Zionist Information Network (http://www.azin.org)

[Steve]

OOOO, that's biting, but definitely good. I don't know a more civil society than Israel in this world, that gives it's enemies preferential treatment...



Originally posted by tkcteccfrs
The Temple Mount Is In Our Hands?

Ha’aretz is reporting that Herut MK Michael Kleiner is petitioning the High Court for permission to visit the Temple Mount. Meanwhile there have been numerous reports in the last weeks that the southern retaining wall of the Temple Mount is in danger of collapse due to the mismanagement and willful destruction of the site by Muslim Wakf officials. This has created a situation in which thousands of people may be killed when the wall collapses. This will certainly be blamed on Israel and should serve as a splendid excuse to murder lots of Jewish children. Hopefully this calamity will draw attention to the fact that despite our victories in 1967, the Temple Mount is still under Muslim control 35 years later. Why is it that the MK who most represents the dream of a secure Israel must petition the High Court to visit the site while the Jew murdering savages are being given free hand to destroy it?


G-d willing we will live to see the day when the words spoken by Commander, Motta Gur in 1967 become reality, "The Temple is in our hands! The Temple Mount is in our hands!." A good way to start would be to demolish the Muslim abominations that currently disgrace the site.

American Zionist Information Network (http://www.azin.org)

[Skull]

I just recently came back from a trip to Israel. (I live In Australia).
I was in Jerusalem and what I dont get is why I coulnt not walk up to the temple mount? I mean the Israeli capital city all Israelis pay taxes I guess (maybe not) why was I not let in. Its a joke I was there like 10 years ago and was allowed to go up. How can a Jew be stopped from traveling any where he wants in Israel. Do I need a special visa to get in?

I was told that the Israelis are not in control of the temple mount, was this something that was part of Oslo or did we lose control in some poker game.

[Steve]

No, it's typical Jewishness. We wouldn't want to piss off our enemies, would we?

I guess the reality is that the Temple Mount is generally considered to be too holy. There are place there where Jews shouldn't go because of the holiness - where the Holy of Holies was. The Western Wall is the closest place to where the Holy of Holies was, which is why Jews pray there.

Besides, I don't think you'd want to go up there nowadays - it would be a death wish. Why? Because there's likely to be an Arab that is savage enough to mutilate you. Do you want to take that chance?

Steve


Originally posted by Skull
I just recently came back from a trip to Israel. (I live In Australia).
I was in Jerusalem and what I dont get is why I coulnt not walk up to the temple mount? I mean the Israeli capital city all Israelis pay taxes I guess (maybe not) why was I not let in. Its a joke I was there like 10 years ago and was allowed to go up. How can a Jew be stopped from traveling any where he wants in Israel. Do I need a special visa to get in?

I was told that the Israelis are not in control of the temple mount, was this something that was part of Oslo or did we lose control in some poker game.

[dilipcynthia]

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[varian]

This is like a scenario from Solomon's court (for those who believe that Solomon existed) where the illegitimate parent (Islam) sought to destroy what was precious and dear to the legitimate parent (Israel). This is fueled more by spite and not reason. It seems that Islam's intent is on razing, not raising!!!

[Rune]

Collapse of Jerusalem Wall Could Inflame Muslim WorldYou mean it isn’t already? Is there anything that won’t inflame the Muslim World? Anyway, surely if the wall collapsed it would be God willing. And it’s above time the Muslim street learns the simple lesson that when you time and again make a big fuss out of little thing, nobody will raise an eyebrow when you make a big fuss out of a big thing.

[atricnorth]

that means if we destroy mecca, it does not mean anything significant to the muslims. bunch of greedy ba*t@rds.

bring on the napalm and moab