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varian
01-07-2009, 09:34 PM
Hamas in Trouble

By P. David Hornik
FrontPageMagazine.com | 1/7/2009

By Tuesday, Day 11 of Operation Cast Lead, Hamas was described as “desperate for a lull,” its leadership in underground bunkers and Gaza in near-anarchy. The terror organization was both boxed in and isolated as apprehensions of Hezbollah opening a second front to Israel’s north failed to materialize—inviting plausible speculation that the war was a ploy by Iran to distract attention from its progress toward the bomb.

Still Hamas operatives above ground in Gaza were able once again to fire a few dozen rockets at Israel, one of which injured a three-month-old girl in Gedera 45 kilometers from the Strip. Israeli forces had, though, reportedly taken over most of the rocket-launching sites in northern Gaza.

A stream of EU visitors in Jerusalem were firmly rebuffed by Israeli leaders who in the past had not excelled at resisting Western pressures, and whose once-hawkish worldviews had become much softer over the years. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the French, Czech Republic, and Swedish foreign ministers that “This is the time for action not words. We are fed up with empty gestures,”and that the IDF campaign in Gaza, not a premature ceasefire, would stop the rockets.

President Shimon Peres, who in the 1990s became the key figure in setting Israel on a path of appeasing terror, spoke even more strongly to the Czech Republic and Swedish FMs along with EU foreign policy chief Benita Ferraro-Waldner, telling them that “Europe needs to open its eyes with respect to the fighting in Gaza”—and that they “must understand that Hamas is a terror organization of the worst order that uses its population of women and children as human shields.”

And Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni—now also an aspirant for the office of prime minister and rival of hawkish Likud leader Binyamin Netanyahu—went so far as to tell the Europeans that “When Israel is targeted, Israel is going to retaliate. Israel is going to give an answer to [rocket fire] because this is an ongoing, long war against terror.”

Meanwhile, in addition to intense gun battles in Gaza City in the north of the Strip, Israeli forces were closing in on Dir al-Balah and Khan Yunis in central and southern Gaza. Although a total of about 500 Hamas fighters had been killed by Tuesday evening with at least 80 taken prisoner, the six Israeli soldiers lost so far were, as always, a focus of detailed and mournful attention in casualty-sensitive Israel. They include two residents of West Bank communities, two Jerusalemites, a Russian immigrant from Beersheba, and a Druze Israeli from Haifa.

Also on Tuesday evening about 30 Gazans were reportedly killed when IDF tank fire hit a UN school in Jebalaya in northern Gaza. The IDF announced that terrorists had used the school to fire mortars at troops who had fired back in self-defense, and that the dead included numerous Hamas men. It wasn’t yet clear whether the incident would turn out to be an Allah-sent coup for Hamas, like the staged Kafr Kana incident in the Second Lebanon War. But Barack Obama’s response—breaking his silence on the war—that “the loss of civilian life in Gaza and in Israel is a source of deep concern for me” sounded ominous.

At about the same time the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center happened to release an 81-page report on “Hamas Exploitation of Civilians as Human Shields.” It describes such Hamas practices as:


firing projectiles “at Israeli population centers from inside or close to private Palestinian residences and sometimes from educational institutions and mosques”;

“exploit[ing] IDF warnings to civilians to evacuate their residences…to send children and adolescents to the relevant locations”; and

“repeatedly attack[ing]” the crossings into Gaza “with rocket and mortar shell fire as well as attempted mass-casualty and suicide bombing attacks.”

Detailed reports, though, have little power compared to the graphic images projected to the world by the media-terrorism complex. Although the Associated Press reported that “Area residents confirmed the [IDF] account [of the school incident], saying militants were seen staging attacks from the area,” it also described the growing agitation against Israel including a top UN official “call[ing] for an investigation into the mounting civilian death toll.”

International pressures were expected to intensify after the incident as the UN Security Council prepared to hold its second meeting on the war. Olmert, despite his earlier tough talk, said he was “currently in discussions [about a diplomatic solution] with many leaders around the world” and that “the sooner [Israel’s offensive ends], the better.”

In other words, there’s already good reason to fear that Israel’s efforts and sacrifices will again go up in smoke, while Hamas, for all its moral failings, will be pulled out of the fire.

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Hisardut
01-08-2009, 03:04 AM
olmert, livni and peres can all burn in hell (along with that pig sharon and rabin). Their disengagement plan is what put Israel in its current situation now, israelis are being punished for their vote to exit gaza and make homeless its most nationalistic people.

I hope this little war ploy to get re-elected only lowers their popularity even more, because these bastards (excuse my language) just want to get this little win in Gaza so they can then justify genocide against the jews of Judea and Samaria. Ignore their rhetoric, if they stay in power and finish what their liberal hearts have in mind for the jewish people then thats when Holocaust II begins and I will not shed a single tear for jewish blood spilt when that happens. you get what you vote for.

dayag
01-15-2009, 10:18 AM
Good news in the JP:

Hamas interior minister Said Siam dies in IAF air strike
By YAAKOV KATZ

Hamas's interior minister, Said Siam, was killed along with his brother Iad and his son, as well as another senior Hamas man in an IAF strike on a house in the Jabaliya neighborhood in Gaza City, Israeli defense officials told The Jerusalem Post.

Siam was the Hamas political echelon's liaison with the group's military wing, and was responsible for the various security apparatuses in the Strip, including the police and the naval force.
Siam was considered a radical and was in contact with Hamas's political leadership in Damascus.
Salah Abu Shrakh, the head of the Hamas general security service, was also killed in the air strike...

source: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231950866724&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

:clap:

bararallu
01-15-2009, 10:28 AM
olmert, livni and peres can all burn in hell

Please. If Peres made it some hell, he would quickly find himself running it, unelected of course :D.

Reesale
01-15-2009, 04:06 PM
Varian wrote:

Detailed reports, though, have little power compared to the graphic images projected to the world by the media-terrorism complex. Although the Associated Press reported that “Area residents confirmed the [IDF] account [of the school incident], saying militants were seen staging attacks from the area,” it also described the growing agitation against Israel including a top UN official “call[ing] for an investigation into the mounting civilian death toll.”

So true.

I'm a total supporter of Israel and still, when I see the videos of Palestinians suffering, I can't help but second guess what Israel's doing.

Go to this site (http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/index.php) and click on the 'Gaza War Coverage' if you want to see a large variety of videos on the Gaza war.
(Both sides)

Mediocrates
01-15-2009, 04:44 PM
Every war since Napolean has as many or more civilian casualties than military.

Reesale
01-18-2009, 11:04 PM
True, but the coming of the 20th and then 21st century left us with the expectation that we'd outgrown war, and could now solve everything peacefully, man to man.

And some of us could.

Mediocrates
01-19-2009, 09:13 AM
Enjoy your Bronze Age.

CanDo
01-19-2009, 09:36 AM
True, but the coming of the 20th and then 21st century left us with the expectation that we'd outgrown war, and could now solve everything peacefully, man to man.

Sadly, you cannot solve everything peacefully with those who want to either kill you or enslave you. If we are to learn anything from history, we must recognize the brutal, corrupt barbarians whose goals lead unavoidably to either defending yourself, or capitulation.

And some of us could.

Those that can solve everything peacefully usually have a strong military, that acts as a deterrent, or are protected by other countries having strong militaries.

Those that are not willing to defend their own freedom, will eventually lose it.

Y. Shulamith
01-19-2009, 09:38 AM
War won't be done with, IMO, until we've all been blown back to primordial ooze and maybe human being 3.0 will have a people who ALL have a more evolved brain than to engage in such destructive nonsense (100% of the people, not a few priviledged ones)...'til then....war is/will be hell.

Sorry, but that's where I think the state of human brain is these days.

Mediocrates
01-19-2009, 12:10 PM
Hamas is rounding up hundreds of Fatah and torturing them and killing them as reprisals for 'collaboration'. You won't hear a word of this in MSM.

Y. Shulamith
01-19-2009, 12:13 PM
Hamas is rounding up hundreds of Fatah and torturing them and killing them as reprisals for 'collaboration'. You won't hear a word of this in MSM.


I guess things suck in the terrorist anarchy state.....no you won't hear about it much in the mainstream media. Who really knows what goes on with these idiots, anyway? Maybe the Mossad knows...:rofl: