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second_coming
02-08-2009, 05:43 PM
The Israeli government should have made 2 objectives from the Op, even if it did not make them publiclly the way Olmert did in the 2006 War:

#1) Remove Hamas from power, and replace it with a new, home-grown local authority similar to the way the US instated the new, democratically elected government of Iraq.

Removing Hamas from power should have absolutely been the primary purpose of the operation, since in a few months' time hamas would re-group and would continue to fire rockets into Israel.

Creating a new government that actually took responsibility for governing the strip would have authorized an internal Gazan entity with the task of stopping the rockets and other terrorist attacks.

Of course, it would not have been possible to eliminate EVERY Hamas fighter, but at the least, liquidating the entire leadership should have been the minimally acceptable accomplishment from the operation, so even if a new authority formed that continued to be hostile to Israel, it would understand that further attacks would result in its destruction.

#2) Acquisition of Gilad Schalit. As a deterrant to further kidnappings, nothing works better than a commando operation to recover POWs.

In summary, the operation hammered the Gaza hamas movement, slowed it down a bit, but in the larger context, failed miserably. It also failed by damaging relationships with allies such as Turkey, and sullied its already lukewarm-at-best PR image by using white phospherous in civilian areas.

If nothing else, rather than killing the hamas leadership, it could have embarrassed the UN/ICC lackeys by arresting the major leaders after killing most of the others, and demanding that the ICC/Hague try the senior leaders for Crimes Against Humanity/War Crimes for firing rockets into civilian areas. This would have been a fine opportunity to expose and humiliate the UN/ICC supporters since it is likely they would have refused to place the hamas leadership on trial, showing that the ICC has no interest in justice.

If there is any positive that I can offer with respect to this operation - they handled it better than the 2006 disaster, which is hardly saying much.

jrpfeffer
02-13-2009, 11:00 AM
I think that your view is short sighted. Israel has to prepare for the long haul. What Israel did was educate the terrorists on the hopelessness of their cause. If Palestinians want to live in squalor and be ruled by thugs carrying AK-47s, vote Hamas next time, and time after that. The people in Palestine must decide what they want. In fact, we know that in time they will reject hamas, not because they won’t hate Israel any more, that is too much to ask for, but they will reject hamas because hamas does go around tormenting Palestinians and causing wars with Israel. They will figure this one out eventually.

By going in and trying to play power broker by removing hamas, you only unite the Palestinians and give them a cause to rally behind.

What Israel should say is, “you want hamas, you can have hamas, enjoy, must suck to be you.”

Israel needs to teach all Palestinians a life lesson. Attacking Israel or Israelis causes many unpleasant side effects. I am definitely not saying to attack Gaza to teach them a lesson. I am saying attack hamas because hamas attacks Israel, as they did in Gaza. Attack hamas in Gaza while taking reasonable and significant efforts to avoid innocent casualties. But the consequence of attacking Israel is always the same.

Y. Shulamith
02-13-2009, 11:51 AM
Living in squalor is kind of subjective. Apart from living in a cave, one man's squalor is another man's castle, I think.

Unless you are OBL, then you can "have your cake and eat it too".