British City May Twin With Gaza

[maven]

:unsure: If anyone wanted to assess the high level of anti-Semitism or just plain ignorance in the Uk just look at this story:


The English city of Worcester, famous as the birthplace of patriotic composer Sir Edward Elgar, is on the verge of becoming the first in the UK to be twinned with with Gaza City.

The council's Twinning Association is now to consider an application which could be passed in the next few months.

An amended motion put forward by Cllr Alan Amos was strongly passed at a passionate council meeting on Tuesday night with just six councillors opposing the move out of 35 voters.

The amended motion read: "The city of Worcester invite the Twinning Association to consider twinning Worcester with Gaza City.

Cllr Alan Amos, who first proposed the twinning, said: "Like many I have watched the plight of the people of Gaza, seeing them get bombed and bombed by Israelis with advanced military weapons.

"But rather than sit there thinking 'isn't that terrible?', I really wanted to do something about it.

"Although I am a seasoned politician, at a local government level it is obviously hard to influence foreign policy.

"So we wanted to bring people together to show a gesture of solidarity - so Gaza could look at us and see that the whole world isn't against them, there are people who understand their plight and think what is happening to them is unacceptable.

"We have made history in doing this, although that's not what we set out to do, we have obviously done something very memorable and we are very optimistic that this will go ahead.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4808673/Worcester-on-verge-of-being-twinned-with-Gaza.html

Alan Amos
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alan Thomas Amos (born 10 November 1952) is a British Labour politician, and former Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Hexham in Northumberland between 1987 and 1992.

In Parliament, Amos was known for his right wing views, e.g. he believed rapists and muggers should be flogged. Shortly before the 1992 general election he was cautioned by police after an alleged indecency incident on Hampstead Heath and he did not fight his seat at the election.

After seeking, but failing, to be readopted as a local councillor in the London Borough of Enfield, where he had been previously been Deputy Leader of the Council, he joined the Labour Party in 1994, giving an exculpatory interview to The Spectator magazine, and in the 2001 general election fought the Hitchin and Harpenden constituency for Labour, coming second to the Conservatives' Peter Lilley. He was elected for Labour to the Millwall ward of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets in 2002, serving as councillor for four years before losing the seat to the Conservatives in 2006. He returned to local politics in May 2008 with his election to the Warndon ward of Worcester City Council.

[Steven]

How sickening for a Western country to do this. I take it that they are proud of themselves to stand with the Hamas supporting Gazans who do not even attempt to stop the rockets attacks on Israel.

[maven]

I am beginning to wonder if the British are merely mad?

"Hamlet: Why was he sent into England?
Grave-digger: Why, because a was mad. A shall recover his wits there; or if a do not, 'tis no great matter there.
Hamlet: Why?
Grave-digger: 'Twill not be seen in him there. There the men are as mad as he."

William Shakespeare.

It is a possibility that the British have become so deranged by years of political correctness and and fear of Muslims that they have lost touch with reality and are suffering from hostage syndrome.

[Aviva]

I am beginning to wonder if the British are merely mad?

"Hamlet: Why was he sent into England?
Grave-digger: Why, because a was mad. A shall recover his wits there; or if a do not, 'tis no great matter there.
Hamlet: Why?
Grave-digger: 'Twill not be seen in him there. There the men are as mad as he."

William Shakespeare.

It is a possibility that the British have become so deranged by years of political correctness and and fear of Muslims that they have lost touch with reality and are suffering from hostage syndrome.

Haha, thanks for the Shakespeare quote. I'll remember that one.

However, I don't think it's madness necessarily, I think it's political lobbying and propaganda. This councillor is trying his luck and trying popular opinion to see what he can get away with.

Many people in the UK don't care at the moment, many are ill-informed, many won't speak up, many support whoever they perceive to be the under-dog. In this case, political propaganda has presented the Gazans to be under-dogs and few people question the truth of that.

I think we just have to accept that the UK is becoming more and more pro-Islamic. I assume that Cllr Alan Amos works with many Muslims in local government and is influenced by their concerns. There aren't any Jews in Worcester. I doubt he knows any or if he does, they'll be the lefty Jew type who can't bear the thought of Israel anyway.

[maven]

Haha, thanks for the Shakespeare quote. I'll remember that one.

However, I don't think it's madness necessarily, I think it's political lobbying and propaganda. This councillor is trying his luck and trying popular opinion to see what he can get away with.

Many people in the UK don't care at the moment, many are ill-informed, many won't speak up, many support whoever they perceive to be the under-dog. In this case, political propaganda has presented the Gazans to be under-dogs and few people question the truth of that.

I think we just have to accept that the UK is becoming more and more pro-Islamic. I assume that Cllr Alan Amos works with many Muslims in local government and is influenced by their concerns. There aren't any Jews in Worcester. I doubt he knows any or if he does, they'll be the lefty Jew type who can't bear the thought of Israel anyway.I agree with every word you say Aviva that is a good summary. There is a huge amount to ignorance and I observe that many of those who accept the MSM view of Gaza are not anti-Semetic, just misinformed. Israel needs a newschannel.

BBC does not seem to have noticed that there has been a media coup in the UK and that the main source of news on the ME now for all those interested, both Jews and Muslims, is Press TV Iran and Al Jazeera English.

[Aviva]

I've just found Alan Amos's contact details, if anyone wants a polite word with him:
http://www.worcester.gov.uk/index.php?id=471

alan.amos@worcester.gov.uk

It's not easy to address mis-informed people because they already have very strong pre-formed opinions about "The Pro-Israel Lobby" before you've even said a word and don't (or won't) even realise that many of those opinions stem from a deep-rooted hateful attitude towards Jews and all aspects of Jewish interest, rather than genuine facts.

Alan Amos probably considers himself to be a good decent person who's acting in the interest of moral rectitude. If we pointed out the way in which the Palestinians attempt to callously manipulate their own suffering to further their own hard-line political agenda, he'd just accuse us of being biased. People like this don't seem to understand that they themselves have chosen to be incredibly biased and are blindly supporting a terrorist agenda.

There's no fair-mindedness or impartiality involved at all. And definitely no genuine moral rectitude. He needs to read the Charter of Hamas, who the Gazans freely elected and then decide whether he wants to be twinned with them.

Alternatively, if he's so sympathetic, he could suggest they twin the town equally with Sderot and Gaza. I bet that hadn't even crossed his narrow mind.

[maven]

I've just found Alan Amos's contact details, if anyone wants a polite word with him:
http://www.worcester.gov.uk/index.php?id=471

alan.amos@worcester.gov.uk

It's not easy to address mis-informed people because they already have very strong pre-formed opinions about "The Pro-Israel Lobby" before you've even said a word and don't (or won't) even realise that many of those opinions stem from a deep-rooted hateful attitude towards Jews and all aspects of Jewish interest, rather than genuine facts.

Alan Amos probably considers himself to be a good decent person who's acting in the interest of moral rectitude. If we pointed out the way in which the Palestinians attempt to callously manipulate their own suffering to further their own hard-line political agenda, he'd just accuse us of being biased. People like this don't seem to understand that they themselves have chosen to be incredibly biased and are blindly supporting a terrorist agenda.

There's no fair-mindedness or impartiality involved at all. And definitely no genuine moral rectitude. He needs to read the Charter of Hamas, who the Gazans freely elected and then decide whether he wants to be twinned with them.

Alternatively, if he's so sympathetic, he could suggest they twin the town equally with Sderot and Gaza. I bet that hadn't even crossed his narrow mind.Aviva I think you are being to kind to Mr Amos. This si his biog:

"Alan Amos
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alan Thomas Amos (born 10 November 1952) is a British Labour politician, and former Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Hexham in Northumberland between 1987 and 1992.

In Parliament, Amos was known for his right wing views, e.g. he believed rapists and muggers should be flogged. Shortly before the 1992 general election he was cautioned by police after an alleged indecency incident on Hampstead Heath and he did not fight his seat at the election.

After seeking, but failing, to be readopted as a local councillor in the London Borough of Enfield, where he had been previously been Deputy Leader of the Council, he joined the Labour Party in 1994, giving an exculpatory interview to The Spectator magazine, and in the 2001 general election fought the Hitchin and Harpenden constituency for Labour, coming second to the Conservatives' Peter Lilley. He was elected for Labour to the Millwall ward of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets in 2002, serving as councillor for four years before losing the seat to the Conservatives in 2006. He returned to local politics in May 2008 with his election to the Warndon ward of Worcester City Council."

His record shows that he is all but another (perhaps less talented) maverick politician of the George Galloway variety. Speaking up for the Pals keeps him in cigars and secures his seat at the next election. Unfortunately the mass of councillors in Worscester are going to vote for the plan so it is going to happen.

All of this is Israel's own fault. Israel has failed to engage with either the region or the rest of the world and explain her case. Rather than email Amos I would encourage all of us to write to whomever we can think of to try to get Israel to start her own International newchannel. Perhaps one of those people will know the right person to pass the suggestion on to.

[Aviva]

In Parliament, Amos was known for his right wing views, e.g. he believed rapists and muggers should be flogged.

Wow! That's extreme!

Shortly before the 1992 general election he was cautioned by police after an alleged indecency incident on Hampstead Heath and he did not fight his seat at the election.

"An incident on Hampstead Heath" means he was doing what George Michael was arrested for doing in a public toilet in LA, that is, he was looking for the intimate company of other gentlemen.

After seeking, but failing, to be readopted as a local councillor in the London Borough of Enfield, where he had been previously been Deputy Leader of the Council, he joined the Labour Party in 1994, giving an exculpatory interview to The Spectator magazine, and in the 2001 general election fought the Hitchin and Harpenden constituency for Labour, coming second to the Conservatives' Peter Lilley. He was elected for Labour to the Millwall ward of the London Borough of Tower Hamlets in 2002, serving as councillor for four years before losing the seat to the Conservatives in 2006. He returned to local politics in May 2008 with his election to the Warndon ward of Worcester City Council."

That's a very weird political career; he seems to have gone from extreme right to extreme left.

His record shows that he is all but another (perhaps less talented) maverick politician of the George Galloway variety. Speaking up for the Pals keeps him in cigars and secures his seat at the next election. Unfortunately the mass of councillors in Worscester are going to vote for the plan so it is going to happen.

It looks like he'll champion whoever will get him into power, irrelevant of the morality of it.

All of this is Israel's own fault. Israel has failed to engage with either the region or the rest of the world and explain her case. Rather than email Amos I would encourage all of us to write to whomever we can think of to try to get Israel to start her own International newchannel. Perhaps one of those people will know the right person to pass the suggestion on to.

So many of Israel's detractors think that Jews run the media anyway. They assume all news is pro-Israel. However, I also wish Israel would do much more in the media to allow it to be perceived in a better light or at least a fair light.

[maven]

Wow! That's extreme!



So many of Israel's detractors think that Jews run the media anyway. They assume all news is pro-Israel. However, I also wish Israel would do much more in the media to allow it to be perceived in a better light or at least a fair light.Actually this is something I want to write about later. It is a byproduct of the 'Protocols of Zion'. I call it the power libel that Jews rule the world through the backdoor. Anyone who knows anything about the media knows it to be absurd. I heard on Al Jazeera that Richard Murdoch was a Jew!

[Sharona]

I know that there are career polticians who don't give a monkeys about which party they are in, so long as they have the limelight and the voice. It's an ego thing.

On the subject of the 'Protocols'; I have spent the last two years researching the psychological impact of the many conspiracy theories that exist (and there are so many you wouldn't believe it!). There are also some serious forums spending serious money to investigate the conspiracies.

The forums attract people from all walks of life, but the less gullible don't stay. What appears to be left over are those with a certain mental outlook. Once they are hooked into the forum, you can see them gradually open up to believing absolutely every bizarre theory without question. They appear to lose all trust in the world around them and see the hand of conspiracy in absolutely everything.

Few are able to use critical thinking skills to unravel the fact from the fiction. Instead, they have knee-jerk reactions. I once spent two hours on the phone with one lady who was about to abandon her home, a dream job she was due to start and, with her small daughters, run to the hills as a result of one alarming post on a forum. It was easy to de-construct the content of that post, and reassure her - but this lady is just one of thousands. One forum had over 5,000 members.

When I've been presented with the Protocols as fact, it is generally with reference to the all-powerful, cunning, genius of the Illuminati - they are behind everything from the French Revolution to the Holocaust. They devised WWI, WWII, are in league with aliens, own technology beyond our wildest imagination - etc. etc. Their brilliance is mind-boggling. All conspiracy theories lead to the Elders.:rolleyes:

By way of reply, I ask why - if the Illuminati are so brilliant and powerful - they were stupid enough to devise a plan, and then write it down in a known language. Hadn't they heard of 'Code'? Even the daftest, most security unconscious nations of the world would manage that. Worse still, these brilliant schemers who can use HAARP to create hurricane Katrina, actually leave the plan lying around for someone to discover. That done, they appear not to have used their all-consuming influence to shut them up.

I wouldn't worry about them - they seem quite inept.;)

[Yala]

That's a very weird political career; he seems to have gone from extreme right to extreme left.




Is there really a difference between the 2?

[maven]

Is there really a difference between the 2?not as regards Jews these days.

[Aviva]

Is there really a difference between the 2?

When I was young and idealistic, I thought there was a difference. But now I see that there probably isn't.