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This week some concerning new dhimmi developments in Holland. Theatres annouced men and women will be seperated during some shows. Also some town offices offer now separate lines for women and men.
Under whoms pressure? Jews? Christians? Mormons? Muslims of course. Now Muslims start their forceful segregation of sexes where possible in Dutch society. Something tells me this is just the beginning...
bararallu
02-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Privately owned? Are there laws that stipulate that they cant? I mean we have orthodox shuls with mahitzas you know...
Privately owned? Are there laws that stipulate that they cant? I mean we have orthodox shuls with mahitzas you know...
The city offices are publicly owned for sure...theatres not sure, but I am sure they are subsidized by the government. Shows that are expected to attrack many Muslims will have segregated places.
Interesting question about laws against public segregation, I donot know actually...
Steven
02-27-2009, 03:17 PM
The city offices are publicly owned for sure...theatres not sure, but I am sure they are subsidized by the government. Shows that are expected to attrack many Muslims will have segregated places.
Interesting question about laws against public segregation, I donot know actually...
So once again the free market is helping to usher in Islamic rule and Muslims once again show that they do not care about anyone but themselves. This is way out of hand and this backwards religion should of never been let into the West in the first place. It is an opposite culture. Please provide any links.
bararallu
02-27-2009, 03:46 PM
The city offices are publicly owned for sure...theatres not sure, but I am sure they are subsidized by the government. Shows that are expected to attrack many Muslims will have segregated places.
Interesting question about laws against public segregation, I donot know actually...
In the US anything gov funded cannot or should not be catered to any given minority (unless specifically defined extra: racial quotas, handicapped access etc, which is often a policy lightning rod anyway). In Israel as you know it's more of a mixed bag. How is it in Holland?
Steven
02-27-2009, 11:04 PM
We do not need this backwards culture in the West. They are slowly changing the West to suit Islam and it will be their way of life or life as we know it.
Muslim Men, Women Segregated in Rotterdam Theatre
ROTTERDAM, 28/02/09 - On Friday night, a Muslim stand-up comedian was scheduled to give a show in a Rotterdam theatre with segregated seating for the men and women in his audience.
Moroccan-born writer and TV producer Salaheddine Benchikhi was to make his debut as a stand-up comedian at Theater Zuidplein in Rotterdam. At his request, the theatre said it would offer female audience members the option of sitting apart from the men, as Algemeen Dagblad reported several hours before the show on Friday.
According to the newspaper, 50 of the 590 seats had been reserved for women who object to sitting beside a man due to their Islamic faith. As an extra 'service', the orthodox ladies may sit in the first rows of the balcony.
"Whether the option will actually be utilised remains to be seen", Joyce van Dongen of Theater Zuidplein stated. "Fifty is an estimate made by Salaheddine's management. Since the show is an opening night, we have no previous shows to serve as an example". If called for, a larger number of separate seats would be arranged, according to Van Dongen.
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/280209_2.htm
In the US anything gov funded cannot or should not be catered to any given minority (unless specifically defined extra: racial quotas, handicapped access etc, which is often a policy lightning rod anyway). In Israel as you know it's more of a mixed bag. How is it in Holland?
In Holland integration is a big deal. As soon as an organisation says it wants to promote integration for newcomers, it can count on government subsidies. I am sure some or a lot is well spend. Some subsidies are completely ridiculous however. P.e. there is a Dutch Muslim forum, which gets fully subsidized with tax payer money. The forum is full with antisemitism and hatred towards kufar. I send a government organisation a weekly update, hoping they will stop subsidizing this, no results yet. :tdown:
This a how the Rotterdam theatre looked yesterday:
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Steven
02-28-2009, 07:09 AM
In Holland integration is a big deal. As soon as an organisation says it wants to promote integration for newcomers, it can count on government subsidies. I am sure some or a lot is well spend. Some subsidies are completely ridiculous however. P.e. there is a Dutch Muslim forum, which gets fully subsidized with tax payer money. The forum is full with antisemitism and hatred towards kufar. I send a government organisation a weekly update, hoping they will stop subsidizing this, no results yet. :tdown:
This a how the Rotterdam theatre looked yesterday:
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Hi Rob,
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Women in theatre seperated (http://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/cultuur/3036950/Jonge_moslimas_willen_niet_apart_zitten.html)
Steven
02-28-2009, 07:29 AM
Women in theatre seperated (http://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/cultuur/3036950/Jonge_moslimas_willen_niet_apart_zitten.html)
That is not what the West is about. Now they move on to their next change.
Thank you.
Sharona
02-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Why is there such an emphasis on segretation? Why is there such an emphasis placed on women covering up every inch of themselves save their eyes?
Is it because they are expected to take on the responsibility for men's, erm..wishful thinking?
The reason I ask is that it reminds me a little of when Peter Sutcliffe, the 'Yorkshire Ripper', was hammering women over the head here in the UK.
I forget what his exact tally was when the police began considering a safety curfew.....on women!
Why? It was pretty much established that the Ripper was a man. So why not a curfew on men?
If men can't control themselves at the sight of a female face, they need to take cold showers, or whatever else it might be that cools their ardour. Why should women have to assume responsibility?
I'll dismantle my portable soapbox now:lol:
bararallu
02-28-2009, 03:03 PM
This is where multiculturalism fails. And when it is gone... what will replace it I wonder.
This drives people into the open arms of Geert Wilders. No surprise that after the theatre and city hall offices sexes segragation, the PVV (the party of Geert Wilders) is now the largest political party according to the latest poll:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2196452/posts
I have heard many people literally say: "I never thought it would come to this, but I donot have a choice anymore, I am a Geert Wilders supporter."
Where will it end? It will end in the murder of Geert Wilders (or will that just be the beginning?), like the Islamists and the left killed Theo van Gogh en the next PM to be Pim Fortuyn. From those murders the government didn't learn a thing, on the contrary!
Checked the subsidized Dutch Muslim forum today, and they literally beg Geert Wilders to come back asap from the US, so they can finish him. The Dutch government still doesn't stop subsidizing this forum. Maybe I will also become one of those people saying "I donot have a choice anymore". Why no choice? Other right wing parties already announced not to serve alcohol anymore at certain receptions, because it might offend Muslim voters...never mind you offend the other 90-95% of the population...
Mediocrates
03-01-2009, 12:35 PM
It will end wherever the Dutch want it to end.
Steven
03-01-2009, 12:47 PM
Right now Islam is the biggest threat there. It needs to be dealt with, hopefully Wilders will have a snowball effect across Europe in regards to Islam. Sitting around doing nothing is not the answer.
bararallu
03-01-2009, 12:54 PM
There will be more attrition I think. More murders more agitation. But when it blows- and given economic downturn in Europe, there will be more grass roots motivations to blowup. I cant really say it will be an improvement one way or the other, it will probably be pretty bad. Hopefully a center right will prevail long term. I doubt it though. History has extensive lessons on that end. It's their country, they can pretty much do what they please.
This week some concerning new dhimmi developments in Holland. Theatres annouced men and women will be seperated during some shows. Also some town offices offer now separate lines for women and men.
uslims of course. Now Muslims start their forceful segregation of sexes where possible in Dutch society. Something tells me this is just the beginning...
Rob, are you originally from The Netherlands?
Rob, are you originally from The Netherlands?
Yes.
Yes.
So what exactly led you to make aliyah if you don't mind me asking? These stories are always interesting to me.
Aviva
03-02-2009, 05:39 AM
I mean we have orthodox shuls with mahitzas you know...
Since when is a theatre a place of worship, though?
This story sounds absurd. Many people go to the theatre on dates. If they can't sit together, what's the point of going together.
And what do you do if you're trans-gender? (In Judaism, you'd join a Liberal/Reform shul and become the rabbi, of course!)
Mediocrates
03-02-2009, 06:05 AM
Since when is a theatre a place of worship, though?
This story sounds absurd. Many people go to the theatre on dates. If they can't sit together, what's the point of going together.
And what do you do if you're trans-gender? (In Judaism, you'd join a Liberal/Reform shul and become the rabbi, of course!)
Since when is a bus? But we separate the genders on them.
Since when is a bus? But we separate the genders on them.
Warn me when there is a dedicated female section in Carnegie Hall because Jews asked for it, k?
So what exactly led you to make aliyah if you don't mind me asking? These stories are always interesting to me.
A persuasive wife. :D
She is born and raised in Israel and we met when I was studying there. She came back with me to Holland. The reasons to go back again were:
-closer family ties (and family life) in Israel
-political climate Holland
-wanting to give the kids closer ties to their Jewish heritage
Economically we are still depended on Holland. At the moment we couldnīt make a decent living pure and only from income from Israel. Never regretted the decision one second though.
Steven
03-02-2009, 08:18 AM
Since when is a bus? But we separate the genders on them.
The Netherlands is not an Islamic country and this will just lead to further demands. Ask yourself why they did not need these accomodations 5, 10 or 20years ago? The answer is that they see that being politically correct has weakened the West. So they are going to continually exploit that weakness to change the West to suit Islam.
maven
03-02-2009, 01:02 PM
Mind you women being forced to be women does hold certain attractions. Most liberated women I know are really just like men who have babies. O how I miss the fifties to the 80s! Feminism destroyed femininity. :D
Mediocrates
03-02-2009, 02:10 PM
The Netherlands is not an Islamic country and this will just lead to further demands. Ask yourself why they did not need these accomodations 5, 10 or 20years ago? The answer is that they see that being politically correct has weakened the West. So they are going to continually exploit that weakness to change the West to suit Islam.
It's not as if they actually have any power to do this. It's a matter of countries and governments giving up on being anything. Current course and speed the west may very well implode from its own ennui.
Steven
03-02-2009, 02:18 PM
It's not as if they actually have any power to do this. It's a matter of countries and governments giving up on being anything. Current course and speed the west may very well implode from its own ennui.
They do not have the power of officially controlling the Western govts. But they do have the power to exploit being politically correct, and they do have some power because their ideology is classified as a religion.
The question is why is the West giving up?
Mediocrates
03-02-2009, 03:04 PM
Maybe they're just done. Tired, old, nothing to replace all the failed systems. The EU is an experiment in post-nationalism where countries no longer matter. Countries for the most part that were formed out of the 1648 Treaty of Westphalia that created borders and states out of national, religious, ethnic unities. But now it seems we're done with all that. Identity is nothing in the west. No one wants to be Dutch or Spanish or Yugoslavian. Nationality is little more than a brand now. Replaced by what? Replaced by nothing. Endless infinite 'multiculturalism', that pleasant position that inserts a hyphen in everyone's identity. No one is Belgian anymore. They're Congolese-Belgian, Islamo-Belgian, Flemish-Belgian and so on. And those differences, if they mean anything simply drive a wedge between people who are more obsessed with worshiping their OWN differences than they are worried about yours.
So what's left? In steps something new, something radical, something that promises to shake things up and give purpose, give direction. It doesn't matter the direction is, as long is someone is the pied piper leading them there. In that context is a firm and unyielding conservatism, fundamentalism, even, such a large price to pay?
In the end isn't it people who longer believe in anything being lead by people who believe in nothingness?
bararallu
03-02-2009, 03:53 PM
There are countervailing movements though. The economy (http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/03/01/europe/union.php) will surely be a universal solvent of the EU. East and West Europe can break altogether if the latter brunts the economic hardship of the former for too long. Devolution is a serious movement in the UK, the Celtic rim can and perhaps will break of into sovereign parts within a decade. Belgium has been in the throws of a divorce for decades, and eventually the Flemish may succeed and leave the Walloons. France is another target for self determination, in Corsica, in Alsace-Lorain, in Basque and Bretton country. In Spain the Basque may eventually get their due, following a full split between Castile & Catalan. In Italy the Northen block may spin off to a separate entity. Ethnic politics (and by extension Westphalia) are alive and well.
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