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Toadstool46
03-11-2009, 04:05 AM
Why don't they just send over a covert operation and take out Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other radical kingpins. Am I being naive? Or is this much harder than it sounds or just tabu.

Brody15
03-11-2009, 12:05 PM
My gut answer to this, meaning my answer without doing any research, would be that Amadinnerjacket is just a figurehead and a mouthpiece for the mullahs.

But even then, is assassinating a world leader a smart thing to do? It seems to 1970's.

Steven
03-16-2009, 11:01 PM
Why don't they just send over a covert operation and take out Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other radical kingpins. Am I being naive? Or is this much harder than it sounds or just tabu.


We should take him and the Mullahs out in one shot. But the world would scream.

ranchcer
03-17-2009, 06:38 AM
We should take him and the Mullahs out in one shot. But the world would scream.

Taking out the two little horns on his head is not a standard procedure for World Peace.
Besides, he is the guy you need to show the World the dangers and evils of a theocratic regime.
More questions linger, who would want to do the job and who would replace him...:rolleyes:
remember J.De La fontaine's fable. The frogs asked Jupiter for a new King, he sent them the Devil himself.

codedvirus
03-17-2009, 06:46 AM
More questions linger, who would want to do the job and who would replace him...:rolleyes:

Lets wait till he does something stupid.

US bombers and long range missiles are ready today (Year 2007) to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours.

US ground, air and marine forces already in the Gulf, Iraq, and Afghanistan can devastate Iranian forces, the regime and the state at short notice.

maven
03-17-2009, 07:15 AM
Why don't they just send over a covert operation and take out Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other radical kingpins. Am I being naive? Or is this much harder than it sounds or just tabu.Simple, they are Iranian. Every single Iranian in the world practically will attack us in return.

Codevirus knows the score, unfortunatly Govt of Israel does'nt. They will think a couple of strikes on nuclear facilities is enough. The Iranians are not the Lebanese or the Syrians. Attack Iran and you have TOTAL WAR worldwide against Jews and as much war as Iran can bring to Israel.

Though I am not confident that the Obama admin would be too willing to get involved, Bush is gone remember.

So if you want to deal with the nuclear programme you also have to take out Iran's entire Navy, 'Air force' and hundreds of missile sites. At the same time you would have to deal with counter attacks from Hiz'bollah.

But Toadstool46 has a point, a nice little targeted strike on the Supreme Leader as a he shouts "Down with Israel" at Friday prayers would be a pleasant little touch.

Toadstool46
03-18-2009, 04:32 AM
We should take him and the Mullahs out in one shot. But the world would scream.

When a pack of wolves is well organised it has the capabilities of taking down large animals like a farmers cattle.

Until then the wolves eat smaller rodents like squirels, mice, moles and such.

In order to stop the threat to the large animals, a farmer must only do one thing...... take out the alpha female.

She is the one that organises the hunt. When she has her pack well organised, then and only then has she the power and the ability with her pack to take out these large animals.

If you take her out, it takes years for the pack to reorganise its structure, get a new alpha female and have her gain the ability to again hunt large animals.

This is Iran. Sooooo take out the alpha female.

The world will scream no matter what Israel does. The world is foolish.

codedvirus
03-18-2009, 06:17 AM
When a pack of wolves is well organised it has the capabilities of taking down large animals like a farmers cattle.

Until then the wolves eat smaller rodents like squirels, mice, moles and such.

In order to stop the threat to the large animals, a farmer must only do one thing...... take out the alpha female.

She is the one that organises the hunt. When she has her pack well organised, then and only then has she the power and the ability with her pack to take out these large animals.

If you take her out, it takes years for the pack to reorganise its structure, get a new alpha female and have her gain the ability to again hunt large animals.

This is Iran. Sooooo take out the alpha female.

The world will scream no matter what Israel does. The world is foolish.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is like a rock on top of an ant hill. What happens when you kick the rock off of an ant hill? (Those Ants have WMDs)
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Personally i think Israel does not have a plan to carry out the attack on Iran's Nuclear Sites. If they had they would have attacked Iran a long time back.

Toadstool46
03-18-2009, 10:36 AM
I guess that is another way to look at it too.

codedvirus
03-18-2009, 10:39 AM
I guess that is another way to look at it too.

That's what is happening in Iraq right now.......;)

Sharona
03-18-2009, 10:51 AM
I've just posted a link to Shire News Network where, amongst other things, Prof Barry Rubin speaks of the difficulties the Indian government are facing with regard to terrorism.

I've read several comments about how India faces this challenge and gets little media attention - which seems to be true to me.

Toadstool46
03-18-2009, 11:06 AM
That's what is happening in Iraq right now.......;)

The question is... are all the ants from the same ant hill or are there many ant hills?:unsure:

codedvirus
03-18-2009, 11:11 AM
I've just posted a link to Shire News Network where, amongst other things, Prof Barry Rubin speaks of the difficulties the Indian government are facing with regard to terrorism.

I've read several comments about how India faces this challenge and gets little media attention - which seems to be true to me.

For the last 3 decades we are fighting terrorism. BBC shows the news from the other side of Kashmir (Pakistan).
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Thats why people like British Foreign Secretary David Miliband comment like a child.

Miliband Comments Spark India Row (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Foreign-Secretary-David-Miliband-Kashmir-Comments-Sparks-India-Anger/Article/200901315207853)
"Although I understand the current difficulties, resolution of the dispute over Kashmir would help deny extremists in the region one of their main calls to arms and allow Pakistani authorities to focus more effectively on tackling the threat on their western borders."

Sharona
03-18-2009, 11:18 AM
Miliband has lost credibility for a number of reasons. Not least a belief that he should and could push Brown out of office and become the new Labour leader.
He seems to open his mouth only in order to change feet.

Ho-hum - Miliband; yet another reason for sensible Brits to run to the hills:rolleyes:

codedvirus
03-18-2009, 11:21 AM
The question is... are all the ants from the same ant hill or are there many ant hills?:unsure:

I think there are Two Ant Hills ...:D

Brody15
03-18-2009, 11:55 AM
I think there are Two Ant Hills ...:D

Perhaps Al Gore and his crack science team can bio-engineer an extremely large anteater that we can send into the middle east. Any thoughts?

bararallu
03-18-2009, 12:04 PM
Anteaters have way to big a carbon footprint, Al would have to turn off one of his 10,000 watt sheds to accommodate the animal... no can do.

ThetaRay
05-12-2009, 08:43 AM
This thread is a bit outdated, but I will still post if that's alright-

Ahmadinejad is a puppet; nothing more. He is a face with an agenda set before him by the Iranian Ayatollah Khameine. It's the Ayatollah's death which would cause not just riots and and hell by Iranians throughout the world, but also complete chaos in the Iranian government. There is no real democracy in the Iranian Presidential Elections. It's all set up and orchestrated by the Ayatollah. Shooting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, as you all said, p-o everyone, but it would have no real effect as long as the Ayatollah is still pulling the strings.

bararallu
05-12-2009, 09:02 AM
This thread is a bit outdated, but I will still post if that's alright-

Ahmadinejad is a puppet; nothing more. He is a face with an agenda set before him by the Iranian Ayatollah Khameine. It's the Ayatollah's death which would cause not just riots and and hell by Iranians throughout the world, but also complete chaos in the Iranian government. There is no real democracy in the Iranian Presidential Elections. It's all set up and orchestrated by the Ayatollah. Shooting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would, as you all said, p-o everyone, but it would have no real effect as long as the Ayatollah is still pulling the strings.

absolutely true.

Oberon
05-18-2009, 06:30 PM
Re the Iranian military threat: Their military is smaller than Mexico's. It is much smaller than Saddam's was. Merely having a few of the latest Russian toys doesn't make them giants. The real problem is political; who takes over in the vacuum, as some have already pointed out, and most people aren't anxious to give up on Iranian moderates getting into power eventually. It's hard to say what would happen if the nukes and military offensive capabilities were eliminated; it could just as easily drive more Iranians into the Mullah's arms as the opposite, so most people just prefer to stay static until the issues becomes clearer. The problem with that is more nuke warheads controlled by unstable psychopaths. Anybody feel lucky today?

Mediocrates
05-18-2009, 06:45 PM
First off, they project power through proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah. Secondly a nuclear weapon is a strategic threat not a tactical one. The power of nukes is that you can threaten to use it. You never have to. With a nuke Iran could dictate terms in Iraq, in the FSU -stans, in the Caucuses and in Lebanon.

ThetaRay
05-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Secondly a nuclear weapon is a strategic threat not a tactical one. The power of nukes is that you can threaten to use it. You never have to. With a nuke Iran could dictate terms in Iraq, in the FSU -stans, in the Caucuses and in Lebanon.


EXACTLY

Do we dare hand such credibility over to them on a silver platter?