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shravan
05-04-2009, 08:05 AM
Taliban won’t lay down arms: TTP (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009/05/03/story_3-5-2009_pg1_10)

“Taliban cannot renounce weapons, they are ornaments of Muslims,” Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan said.....:clap:


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Looking beyond Nizam-e-Adl (http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=175719)

When I asked him what was the issue presently being undertaken by the CII, he told me that they were working on the issue of whether transplanting a non-Muslim’s kidney into a Muslim person is permitted in Islam.....:rock:

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Being photographed, video taped is un-Islamic: TNSM chief (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009/05/04/story_4-5-2009_pg1_10)

* Sufi Muhammad says democracy, communism, socialism, fascism are un-Islamic systems of governance
* Says jihad is only obligatory when infidels seek to eliminate sharia
* Women can only come out of their houses to perform Haj
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shravan
05-04-2009, 11:23 PM
Jehad is 'not mandatory' in Kashmir, says pro-Taliban cleric (http://www.kashmirlive.com/story/Jehad-is-not-mandatory-in-Kashmir-says-proTaliban-cleric/453980.html)
"Even I do not offer prayers under pro-democracy people," the cleric said....:confused:

Muhammad said women are not allowed to go out of their homes except to perform Haj or the pilgrimage to Mecca. There is no need to seek a wife's permission for jehad or holy war.....:vomit:

shravan
05-04-2009, 11:31 PM
Taliban vow to fight till death (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009/05/05/story_5-5-2009_pg1_7)

Calling the Pakistani government and army “enemies of Muslims”...:scratch:, the Swat Taliban vowed on Monday to march forward till death. “Either we’ll be martyred or we’ll march forward,” Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan told Reuters by telephone. He said elements in the military and the government were trying to sabotage the peace process to please the United States. “This is not our army, this is not our government,” he said.....:eek:

shravan
05-05-2009, 12:35 AM
Mistrust of the West is stronger in Pakistan than fear of the Taleban (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6221874.ece)

In Karachi and Islamabad they really believe the US was behind 9/11....:banghead: That is why opposition to the jihadists is so lukewarm.
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is that the vast majority of people believe that the 9/11 attacks were not an act of terrorism by al-Qaeda, but a plot by the Bush Administration or Israel to provide an excuse to invade Afghanistan and dominate the Muslim world.

shravan
05-05-2009, 12:45 AM
Zionist Agenda From Kabul to Islamabad (http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/9913-zionist-agenda-from-kabul-to-islamabad.html)

Pakistanis to believe that the US-Israel-India has become the ‘Axis of Evil’.....:D for the Muslim world.

The reconstruction of an Islamic anti-Zionist bloc is just begining to surface - and this haunt the Zionist thugs both in Tel Aviv and Washington....:unsure:

shravan
05-05-2009, 01:03 AM
Suicide bomb in Pakistan, peace deal risk (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iBqKMTJz_x3HcRi0IWs4cYtMXaOA)

A 27-year-old widow, Mahbooba, from Pir Baba, said two armed Taliban forced her to accompany them to safety, before they disappeared and handed her 500 rupees (six dollars).

"They ordered me to hide their Kalashnikovs in my burqa....:clap: and said if security officials ask their identity I should say that one is my brother and the other my husband," (She should be flogged for traveling with strangers...:p) she said.

Kenneth
05-05-2009, 01:17 AM
... (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009/05/05/story_5-5-2009_pg1_7)Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan told Reuters by telephone. He said elements in the military and the government were trying to sabotage the peace process to please the United States. “This is not our army, this is not our government,” he said.....:eek:

When asked what he meant by these statements Muslim Khan went on to say "And you may ask yourself, How do I work this? And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile? And you may tell yourself, This is not my beautiful house!, And you may tell yourself, This is not my beautiful wife!"

shravan
05-05-2009, 02:16 AM
When asked what he meant by these statements Muslim Khan went on to say "And you may ask yourself, How do I work this? And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile? And you may tell yourself, This is not my beautiful house!, And you may tell yourself, This is not my beautiful wife!"


Daddy?

Yes, son.

Are we going to have a war with India?

Perhaps.

Oh, goody. We will thrash them, right? Like we did in 1857!

It wasn’t in 1857, son.

Oh, okay. But whom did we thrash in 1857?

The British, son…

And the Hindus too, right?

Well…

Did Quaid-i-Azam fight in that war along with Muhammad bin Qasim and Imran Khan?

No, son. The Quaid and Imran were born much later and Muhammad bin Qasim died many years before.

Then who ruled Pakistan in those days?

There was no Pakistan in those days, son.

But there was always a Pakistan! It has been there for 5,000 years!

Who have you been talking to, son?

No one. I’ve just been watching TV.

It figures.

Daddy, why are all these people against us Arabs?

Arabs? But we aren’t Arabs, son.

Of course we are because our ancestors were Arabs!

No, son. Our ancestors were of the subcontinental stock.

Sub-what?

Never mind.You seem to like wars, son.

Yes. I like to watch them on TV.

But real wars are fought outside the TV, son.

Really? How is that possible? What sort of a war is that?

Never mind.

Daddy, you look worried.

Of course, I am, you little warmongering punk!

Daddy! Why are you scolding me?

Because TV is talking rot and so are you!

Daddy, are you supporting Hindus?

No!

Daddy, have you become a kafir?

Keep quiet! No more TV for you! Go watch a movie on DVD or listen to a CD.

Can’t do that.

But we have so many DVDs and CDs, son.

Not any more.

What do you mean?

I burned them all.

What?!

I burned them all.

I heard that! But why?

They spread obscenity.

Oh, God. Son, go do your homework. What happened to that science project you were working on?

It’s almost complete.

Good boy. What are you making?

A bomb.

What?!

A bomb.

I heard that! But why?

Because I am a true Muslim who hates America.

But only last week you wanted to go to Disney Land.

That’s different.

How come?

Mickey Mouse is Muslim.

No, he isn’t.

Is so. He converted when he heard azaan on the moon.

On the moon?

Yes. Because the earth is flat and…

What??

The earth is…

I heard that!

Daddy, do you want to see my science project, or not?

Gosh, that bomb? But your science teacher will fail you.

No, she wont.

Really?

Yes. I plan to blow her up as well.

God, what is wrong with you? Go call your mother!

She can’t come.

Why not?

I’ve locked her in the kitchen.

But what for?

A woman’s place is in the kitchen. I will not let her out until she covers herself up peoperly!

But she’s your mother!

She’s also a woman!

So?

So she should be hidden.

Hidden from whom?

The whole world and Tony.

Tony?

Yes, Tony.

But Tony’s a cat.

Yes. But he’s male.

Son, have you gone mad?

No. By the way, I’ve made sure Kitto starts covering up as well.

Kitto?

Yes, Kittto.

But Kitto’s a cat!

Yes. But a female cat.

But she’ll suffocate.

Oh, she’s already dead.

What?

She’s already dead.

I heard that! But how?

I buried her alive.

You what?

Yes. To avenge Tony’s honour. But now I will behead Tony.

But why?

To save mom’s honour!

Oh, God!

Don’t say that. Always say Allah.

What’s the difference?

Daddy, do you want to be beheaded too?

No!

Do you want to be stoned to death?

No!

Do you want to be flogged?

No!

Do you want to get your arms chopped off?

No!

Then stop asking silly questions. By the way, I won’t call you daddy anymore.

What will you call me then?

Whatever that is Arabic for daddy.

I don’t know any Arabic, son.

That’s because you are a kafir.

Who the heck are you to tell me who I am, you little fascist twit!

What’s a fascist?

An irrational, violent, self-righteous mad man!

W… aaaaaaa…

Why are you crying?

You scolded me.

Okay, I’m sorry. You have to be tolerant and rational, son. Now be a good boy and go read a book instead of watching TV.

I have no books.

Of course, you do. I bought you so many books.

I burned them.

What?

I burned them.

But why?

They were all in English.

So?

It’s a non-Muslim language!

But we are speaking English, aren’t we?

W… aaaaaaa…

What now?

Zionists made me forget my Arabic.

But you never knew any Arabic, son.

W… aaaa… yes, I did until you and mommy gave me the polio drops… aaaaa…

Okay, tell me, can you do me a favour?

Sure, dad.

Can you blow up something for me?

Oh, goody! Of course, dad. What should I blow? A CD shop, a hotel, a school…?

No, no, something a lot more sinister.

Mom?

No, no…

What then?

The TV set!

What?

Blow the TV set.

I heard that! But why?

Just do it!

I see. Dad?

Yes.

You’re so unconstitutional!

http://nadeemfparacha.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/blow-daddy/

shravan
05-05-2009, 03:30 AM
Brothers kill sister for performing on TV in Pak: Report (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Brothers-kill-sister-for-performing-on-TV-in-Pak-Report/articleshow/4477914.cms)

LONDON: Ashamed of her growing popularity, two brothers allegedly shot dead their singer sister in Peshawar last week for performing on
television.

The murder of Ayman Udas, who was in her early thirties, has shocked the city's cultural community as it symbolises a backlash against women and cultural freedom in an area that is increasingly dominated by Islamic fundamentalists, 'The Sunday Times' reported on Sunday.

Despite Udas's popularity her family felt it was sinful for women performing on television and strongly opposed her.

According to the report, her two brothers reportedly entered her flat last week while her husband was out and fired three bullets into her chest. Neither has been caught.

shravan
05-05-2009, 02:16 PM
Militants capture key installations in Swat (http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/provinces/14-militants-capture-key-installations-in-swat-zj-08)
Residents said hundreds of militants have taken positions on rooftops and were patrolling streets, and laying mines :eek: in Mingora city. They have surrounded scores of security personnel and government functionaries in the government buildings.

Kenneth
05-05-2009, 02:23 PM
http://dissentmagazine.org/online.php?id=235

Mediocrates
05-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Yeah it does seem like it's all going to hell, doesn't it? 6 months, maybe less Pakistan will be in an open civil war.

shravan
05-05-2009, 08:20 PM
Yeah it does seem like it's all going to hell, doesn't it? 6 months, maybe less Pakistan will be in an open civil war.
Yes.

America should leave Pakistan....:D
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/05042009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/just_walk_away_167489.htm
JUST WALK AWAY
TIME TO DUMP PAKISTAN

WHAT Washington calls "strategy" is usually just inertia: We can't imagine not supporting Pakistan because we've "always" supported Pakistan.

No matter how shamelessly Pakistan's leaders looted their own country, protected the Taliban, sponsored terror attacks on India, demanded aid and told us to kiss off when we asked for help, we had to back the Paks.

Because that's just the way things are.

Well, now that Islamist marauders are sweeping the country with violence as the generals in Rawalpindi mull "To be or not to be" and President Ali Asif Zardari knocks back another scotch behind closed doors, perhaps we should consider an alternative approach to this splintering, renegade state.

A better strategy's obvious. But Washington has trouble with the obvious. At our pathetic State Department, habit trumps innovation every time. And the Pentagon can't seem to see beyond the immediate battlefield.

What should we do? Dump Pakistan. Back India.

Washington's deep thinkers will cry, "But China might move in!"

If China wants Pakistan, let Beijing have it. That would be fun to watch. Take on the Taliban? Given China's ghastly ineptitude in dealing with its Uighur Muslims, more power to 'em.

Anyway, China knows that India's the prize. Indian neutrality is essential to any future conflict with the United States. Beijing isn't going to do anything to drive New Delhi into a closer relationship with Washington (and the US Navy).

So set the "China syndrome" fears aside. Move on to the integrity issue: We claim -- or used to claim -- that we're serious about combating terrorists and punishing their backers.

Yet, we've been abetting the forces of terror by supporting Pakistan unreservedly. Islamabad merrily sponsors terror attacks on India, knowing that America will step in and convince New Delhi not to retaliate.

Apart from the myriad Pak-backed terror strikes in Kashmir, we've seen gruesome attacks in New Delhi and, most recently, in Mumbai. Pakistan's intelligence services did everything but put up billboards announcing that they were behind the terrorists.

India prepared to strike back. But we stepped in every time.

As long as Pakistan's obsessed India-haters know there won't be any penalties for terrorism, they'll keep at it. The formula isn't hard to figure out.

Suppose we just left Pakistan, even withdrawing our embassy personnel? Without us to protect them when they go rogue, would Pakistan's murky intel thugs still launch terror strikes on India?

Pakistan would have to behave responsibly at last. Or face nuclear-armed India. And Pakistan's leaders know full well that a nuclear exchange would leave their country a wasteland. India would dust itself off and move on.

Of course, there's also the issue of the Pentagon's bewildering incompetence in placing 50,000 of our troops at the end of a 1,500-mile supply line through Pakistan, rendering our forces virtual hostages of Islamabad.

The answer's another dose of common sense: Instead of increasing our troop numbers in Afghanistan, cut them. Instead of embracing the hopeless task of building a modern nation where no nation of any kind has ever existed, concentrate exclusively on killing al Qaeda terrorists and the hard-line Taliban elements who help them.

Instead of pretending the Kabul government has any validity, arm the factions with which we share common interests. We're really not obliged to cut massive welfare checks for our enemies.

Our sole mission in Afghanistan should be killing terrorists. To that end, we need a smaller, lethal, unfettered force, not more agricultural experts and con-game contractors.

Bottom line: Let India deal with Pakistan. If the Chinese want to engage, just smile. Focus on killing our enemies, not buying them ice cream. And get serious about strategy. How is it that the leaders of the most powerful state in history think like small-time operators?

Briefing Washington audiences, I warn them that, when the boss tells them to think outside the box, he really means, "Come back with new reasons why I was right all along."

It's time for some genuine outside-the-box thinking. Because the Pakistani box looks increasingly like a coffin.

Ralph Peters is Fox News' strategic analyst and the author of "Looking for Trouble."

Kenneth
05-05-2009, 11:51 PM
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4909
More optimistic, with echos of those "how can Afghanistan be saved" articles.

shravan
05-06-2009, 01:21 AM
India ends war exercises near Pakistan border (http://pakobserver.net/200905/06/news/topstories15.asp)

The three-day manoeuvres, code-named Hind Shakti (‘Indian Power’), were held in the arid plains of northern Punjab state and wrapped up on Tuesday, officials said.

“The manoeuvres will factor in various scenarios:eek:, including the worsening situation in our neighbourhood,:D” a Kharga Corps commander told AFP. The exercises come amid increasing concern between India and Pakistan.

Last month the Indian government blamed the crisis across the border was a threat to the entire region....:clap:

shravan
05-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Kenneth,

India wants to Break Pakistan. But America is trying its best to save it.

shravan
05-06-2009, 05:06 AM
The War for Pakistan (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124157646115290479.html)
The presidents of Pakistan and Afghanistan meet at the White House today, ostensibly to discuss the new Afghan offensive. But fast becoming the more urgent issue is the battle for control of nuclear-armed Pakistan.
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But the Pakistanis want U.S. military trainers to teach their officers in the U.S. or a third country. We also hear the military is reluctant to take up U.S. offers to fix Pakistan's idle attack helicopters and focus on the hardware suited for a civil war against a lightly armed enemy. Instead, says a U.S. Defense official, "we always hear things like, 'F-16s are an ideal counterinsurgency tool.'"....:scratch:
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The greatest danger is that Pakistan's weak institutions and uncertain leaders lose their will to defeat the Islamists. That is how the Shah of Iran fell in 1979. We don't want a repeat in Islamabad.....:rock:

shravan
05-06-2009, 07:37 PM
TTP warns NWFP doctors over dress (http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21955)

PESHAWAR: The banned Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has allegedly warned doctors of the public sector hospitals in Peshawar to stop wearing shirts and trousers or face suicide bombing.....:scratch:

shravan
05-07-2009, 11:28 AM
Son of Pakistani cleric said killed in shelling (http://www.reuters.com/article/gc05/idUSTRE5461A820090507)

DIR, Pakistan (Reuters) - A son of radical Muslim cleric Sufi Mohammad, who brokered a peace deal aimed at ending Taliban violence in the Swat valley, was killed Thursday when an artillery shell hit his house, a spokesman for the cleric said.

"I have been informed by the family of Maulana Sufi Mohammad that his son, Kifayatullah, has died and his brother-in-law was seriously injured," said the spokesman, Amir Izzat Khan.

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Taliban urge Afghans to resist conversion (http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE5461F420090507)

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's Taliban have urged Afghan Muslims to resist anyone trying to convert them, after a television network aired pictures of U.S. soldiers in the country with bibles translated into local languages.
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"The Islamic Emirate (Taliban) strongly urges Mujahideen, religious scholars and all religious ... circles to seriously monitor such moves and activities of the invaders and crusaders and not allow anyone to promulgate and spread the abolished religions apart from Islam in a Muslim country," it said.

It called on Pope Benedict to prevent the preaching of Christianity in Afghanistan and warned him of grave consequences if he failed to do so.

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Troops killed in Pakistan clashes (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8037281.stm)
At least 10 soldiers have been killed and nine wounded in clashes with suspected Taleban militants in Swat Valley, Pakistan's military has said.
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Half a million are still trapped in the town, without water or electricity.

shravan
05-07-2009, 11:37 AM
NEFA Exclusive Interview with Haji Muslim Khan, Chief Spokesman of Tehrik-e-Taliban Swat Valley (Pakistan) (Part 2 of 2) (http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009/05/nefa_exclusive_interview_with.php)

Regarding 9/11, according to Khan, "We can't tell [if] this plan [was] from Jews or from Afghanistan.;) [Even] if this is from Afghanistan, so you have killed how many? ...Regardless how many million they killed on 9/11:unsure:, how many millions did they kill in Afghanistan, the USSR? And how many million did they kill in south and in Yugoslavia--everywhere. But they're thinking of only the 9/11 attack." Khan insisted that because U.S.-backed forces have "killed civilians here, so they [the mujahideen] must attack there, attack in the United States."

The video can be viewed on the NEFA Foundation website. (http://www.nefafoundation.org/multimedia-intvu.html#muslimkhan2)

Kenneth
05-08-2009, 11:11 AM
http://www.markfiore.com/political/taliban-fever

shravan
05-08-2009, 11:29 AM
http://www.markfiore.com/political/taliban-fever

:rofl: Thanks.

shravan
05-09-2009, 12:33 AM
Taliban vow to eliminate PM, family members (http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=176628)

The militant commander, who wished anonymity, said that after the prime minister’s declaration to eliminate the Taliban, they had started planning to eliminate the top leaders of the ruling alliance, including the president, the prime minister and their close family members and aides.:eek: He said that hometown of Prime Minister Gilani, Multan, and tomb of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto might also be targeted.