maven
06-02-2009, 05:39 AM
by maven. :unsure:
Buried in an otherwise hack BBC article on the alleged 'Spy' arrests in Lebanon is an interesting suggestion; Which intelligence agency gave the details of intelligence officers who may or may not have been working for Israel to the Lebanese?
Or, who in the Lebanese government who knew darn well of their existance shopped them before Hiz'bollah found out should they become the dominant power after the new elections?
In an age when leaking information from Western government sources is routine, in an age where intelligence officers regularly leave memory sticks and whole laptops on trains -at least in the UK. In an age where Muslims are increasingly being recruited by the spooks, and an age where anti-Israeli feeling is rife among the leftist and liberal middle-classes; who and in what country may have leaked their own national intelligence surveillance or Information shared with them by countries such as Israel to the Lebanese security services?
It is obvious to anyone who knows even a little about Lebanon that every group apart from the Iranian-backed Shias and the Aoun Christians have and have always had to have security links with Israel. In the civil war sectarian groups needed Israel to sell them weapons just to defend their own communities. Even General Aoun probably has intelligence links if not to the Americans and the Brits, to the French secret services.
My suspicion initially fell on Saad Hariri's March 14th group not wishing to give Hiz'bollah excuses for a coup after the elections, but then these are their own people! One way or another I hope that Washington, London, Paris and Bonn will be investigating. If this story is indeed true and genuine, the mole could even have been in the Washington or London.
This wholesale bust of agents throughout Lebanon; agents who probably did not even know each other, must have come from on high. One other suggestion is that the whole thing is a fake, but that would be very hard for Lebanon to explain, particularly as so many of the detained are well known and popular officials. Perhaps these agents work for a number of countries but it suits Lebanon to blame Israel?
The BBC finger the Iranians and Syrians, but I find that hard to believe; they would have acted ages ago, unless they and not Lebanon received a leak.
Hiz'bollah may be on the ground, but on the ground in a country divided into groups whose family, cultural and social lives do not cross it would have been impossible for them to have penetrated outside their own community, at least on this scale.
BBC:
"....But by whom? Is it just coincidence that the various different arms of Lebanese security suddenly began making this series of surprise detentions? Or were they being primed by other intelligence services?
Hezbollah's own role remains obscure. Lebanese officials say it has not been involved in the campaign, and it has certainly taken a low and ostensibly passive profile during the revelations.
The loss of these eyes and ears within Lebanon is undoubtedly a major strategic setback for Israel.
Lebanon has strong ties with Iran and Syria, whose intelligence services are no slouches.
One Lebanese analyst even went so far as to suggest that events may have come full cycle.
Before the 1979 revolution in Iran, Israel's Mossad was deeply involved in training and advising the Shah's dreaded secret police, Savak - a legacy of expertise inherited by Tehran's current Islamic rulers, who were instrumental in establishing Hezbollah in Lebanon and retain very close ties with the movement.
Whatever the case, the head of Lebanon's Internal Security Forces, Gen. Ashraf Rifi, said the dismantling of so many networks amounted to a strategic blow of the utmost seriousness, unprecedented in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Alastair Crooke
Intelligence analyst"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8074848.stm
Buried in an otherwise hack BBC article on the alleged 'Spy' arrests in Lebanon is an interesting suggestion; Which intelligence agency gave the details of intelligence officers who may or may not have been working for Israel to the Lebanese?
Or, who in the Lebanese government who knew darn well of their existance shopped them before Hiz'bollah found out should they become the dominant power after the new elections?
In an age when leaking information from Western government sources is routine, in an age where intelligence officers regularly leave memory sticks and whole laptops on trains -at least in the UK. In an age where Muslims are increasingly being recruited by the spooks, and an age where anti-Israeli feeling is rife among the leftist and liberal middle-classes; who and in what country may have leaked their own national intelligence surveillance or Information shared with them by countries such as Israel to the Lebanese security services?
It is obvious to anyone who knows even a little about Lebanon that every group apart from the Iranian-backed Shias and the Aoun Christians have and have always had to have security links with Israel. In the civil war sectarian groups needed Israel to sell them weapons just to defend their own communities. Even General Aoun probably has intelligence links if not to the Americans and the Brits, to the French secret services.
My suspicion initially fell on Saad Hariri's March 14th group not wishing to give Hiz'bollah excuses for a coup after the elections, but then these are their own people! One way or another I hope that Washington, London, Paris and Bonn will be investigating. If this story is indeed true and genuine, the mole could even have been in the Washington or London.
This wholesale bust of agents throughout Lebanon; agents who probably did not even know each other, must have come from on high. One other suggestion is that the whole thing is a fake, but that would be very hard for Lebanon to explain, particularly as so many of the detained are well known and popular officials. Perhaps these agents work for a number of countries but it suits Lebanon to blame Israel?
The BBC finger the Iranians and Syrians, but I find that hard to believe; they would have acted ages ago, unless they and not Lebanon received a leak.
Hiz'bollah may be on the ground, but on the ground in a country divided into groups whose family, cultural and social lives do not cross it would have been impossible for them to have penetrated outside their own community, at least on this scale.
BBC:
"....But by whom? Is it just coincidence that the various different arms of Lebanese security suddenly began making this series of surprise detentions? Or were they being primed by other intelligence services?
Hezbollah's own role remains obscure. Lebanese officials say it has not been involved in the campaign, and it has certainly taken a low and ostensibly passive profile during the revelations.
The loss of these eyes and ears within Lebanon is undoubtedly a major strategic setback for Israel.
Lebanon has strong ties with Iran and Syria, whose intelligence services are no slouches.
One Lebanese analyst even went so far as to suggest that events may have come full cycle.
Before the 1979 revolution in Iran, Israel's Mossad was deeply involved in training and advising the Shah's dreaded secret police, Savak - a legacy of expertise inherited by Tehran's current Islamic rulers, who were instrumental in establishing Hezbollah in Lebanon and retain very close ties with the movement.
Whatever the case, the head of Lebanon's Internal Security Forces, Gen. Ashraf Rifi, said the dismantling of so many networks amounted to a strategic blow of the utmost seriousness, unprecedented in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Alastair Crooke
Intelligence analyst"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8074848.stm