PDA

View Full Version : What are peace agreements actually worth?


NewsGuy
01-26-2002, 06:32 PM
With all the animosity in the Mideast, it is easy to forget that several peace agreements were signed and some even implemented.

While people talk about the necessity to make peace, the question is whether peace agreements between Israel on the Arabs actually have any value at all, other than a photo-op for Arab dictators.

The first agreement with Egypt was, IMHO, totally worthless.

Israel gave away the entire Sinai and got nothing in return: no trade, no normalization, not even a "cold peace", but rather a "cold war." Evere since the peace agreement, Egypt have never stopped publishing anti-semitic propagarnda, and has voted in favor of every anti-Israel resolution at the UN. To top it all off, Egypt has led the League of Arab nations to push for a renewed boycott of Israel. At this point, Egypt has even withdrawn its ambassador to Israel. The only thing that was ever kept, was the land Israel gave up.

The Jordanian peace agreement also has no real value. The hashemite Kingdom was always secretly pro-Israel, because the other Arab countries (and especially the Palestinians) were trying to overthrow the monarchy. So not much has really changed since the peace agreement was signed. Actually, to appease its extremist anti-Israel population, the Jordanians, too, have withdrawn their ambassador to Israel.

The peace agreeemnts with Arafat have brought nothing but mass murders of Jews, while valuable Jewish land, including some biblical birthrights of the Jewish people, were handed over to Palestinian control.

The question is whether this land for peace formula has ever worked, or whether a peace agreement is even worth having at all with the Arabs, since it is never mutually beneficial, but always one-sided, only bringing benefit to the Arabs.

Bibi4ever
01-28-2002, 12:42 PM
Like you said peace with the arabs so far has been worthless.

worse yet we gave jewish land to our enemies and got terrorism in return.

the land for peace scam never worked. I hope they don't keep on repeating the mistake.

L@mplighterM
01-31-2002, 02:25 PM
Agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on.

NewsGuy
01-31-2002, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by L@mplighterM
Agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on.

Certainly not with Arab countries.

In the absence of a better alternative, maybe a non-aggression treaty is the best we can hope for.

In any event, I think that if Egypt breached its peace agreement with Israel, then it must give back the Sinai.

L@mplighterM
02-01-2002, 09:13 AM
For the time being the Egyptian government seems to be non-aggressive towards Israel, at least that’s the way it seems. Things could change very quickly because Egypt is saturated with Islamic Fundamentalism.

It only takes one bullet to change the course of history. As a matter of fact when Archduke Ferdinan was assassinated it sealed the fate for millions of European Jews and Gentiles. One lousy bullet with less than a penny’s worth of lead changed the course of man.

Agreements entered into can't be enforced and they certainly can be ripped up at the whim of a dictator making them worthless.

NewsGuy
02-01-2002, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by L@mplighterM
For the time being the Egyptian government seems to be non-aggressive towards Israel, at least that’s the way it seems. Things could change very quickly because Egypt is saturated with Islamic Fundamentalism.

Not militarily agressive, true.

But the agreement called for peace, economic cooperation and normalization, which all have been dropped by the Egyptians.

Negev
02-03-2002, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by NewsGuy


Not militarily agressive, true.

But the agreement called for peace, economic cooperation and normalization, which all have been dropped by the Egyptians.

that's why they need to give back the sinai. the peace agreement was not kept and shows how stupid it is to trade land for promises of peace without enforcement.