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Mediocrates
08-11-2010, 11:53 AM
If not the US then France, or Iran or anyone else.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Tanks-Planes-and-UAVs-for-Lebanon-05382/#more-5382

Lebanese armed forces
$100M aid suspension? That’s one expensive sniper! (Aug 9/10)
The Lebanese Army’s own web site is blunt:
“The assistance received from Syria, the USA, and other friendly countries has played a basic role in bridging the gap between needs and available means.”
A number of countries are stepping up to fill those gaps, left in a military ravaged by foreign occupation, a long and losing civil war, and the presence of a foreign-backed private army in Lebanon possessing superior firepower. The USA has been supplying a wide range of equipment from ammunition to armored vehicles, and is adding tanks and mini-UAVs to that list. Belgium has worked to sell some of its own tanks and APCs, France has offered help with Lebanon’s existing French equipment; and in April 2009, Russia went so far as to offer MiG-29 fighters, for free, from its own stocks. What capabilities would these systems bring? And how are those sales going?


UAVs, Tanks, and Planes (http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Tanks-Planes-and-UAVs-for-Lebanon-05382/#lebanon-buys-uavs) [updated]
Contracts & Key Events (http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Tanks-Planes-and-UAVs-for-Lebanon-05382/#lebanese-defense-contracting) [updated]
Additional Readings (http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Tanks-Planes-and-UAVs-for-Lebanon-05382/#lebanese-military-imports)

UAVS, Tanks, and Planes

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Aerovironment’s RQ-11 Raven has become extremely popular in Afghanistan (http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/raven-uavs-winning-gold-in-afghanistans-commando-olympics-01432/), and seen extensive use in Iraq. While the hand-launched UAV is far too small to carry anything beyond cameras, and is limited to low-flying missions out to about 1-15 miles, its virtues as a readily-used, squad-portable reconnaissance system that lets troops see over the next hill, or into the next block, are well and widely appreciated.
The M60 tank (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/m60/) is a development of the M48 Patton, and was the M1 Abrams’ predecessor in the US Army and Marines. While the M1 was developed in response to the threat of the Soviet T-72, it turned out that the M60 was the T-72’s real peer competitor, whereas the M1 proved to be a massive overmatch. Something the M1 crews appreciated during combat in Operation Desert Storm. The M60A3 was the last serving model, sporting electronic upgrades while retaining the rounded turret and 105mm gun. It still serves with a number of militaries around the world. Egypt has the largest regional M60 fleet, followed by Turkey’s “M60 Sabras” that sport significant Israeli improvements to their sighting systems and electronics, as well as a full array of explosive reactive armor.
Recent combat experience teaches that even in urban situations, when tanks enter the fray, fights usually end quickly. Tanks of the M60’s vintage, however, lack the advanced armor protection and shaped designs required to withstand hits from popular threats like RPGs and anti-tank missiles. This can be remedied to some extent by adding explosive reactive armor and other ancillary systems. In their absence, however, M60s could not be expected to last very long against even private armies like Hezbollah, which makes extensive use of anti-tank missiles. The M60A3s, and similar vintage Leopard 1A5s from Belgium (http://www.haaland.info/leopard1/world/), would nonetheless offer an improvement over Lebanon’s existing T-54/55 and M48A5 tanks.

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The MiG-29 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mig-29.htm) is a late 1980s design, intended as a lightweight fighter competitor to the F-16. Early versions are mainly air interceptor aircraft, though some Soviet MiG-29As were also given nuclear strike roles. Subsequent MiG-29Cs were confined to Soviet forces, incorporating radar improvements and an enlarged spine that housed a little bit of additional fuel and an active electronic jammer system. Neither are suitable for delivering precision ground attack ordnance, a capability restricted to subsequent MiG-29S upgrades and modifications.
Lebanon’s fixed-wing fighter/attack force currently consists of about 4 Hawker Hunter (http://www.vectorsite.net/avhunt.html) jets, a 1950s era subsonic design that remains an aviation classic, and an OV-10 Bronco (http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/ov10.htm) turboprop observation and light attack plane. Adding the MiG-29s to its air force would theoretically allow Lebanon to contest intrusions into its airspace by Israeli fighters, who fly reconnaissance missions, and even some strike missions, in response to frequent Hezbollah attacks into Israel. This capability would remain theoretical, however, as any hostilities initiated by a MiG-29 against Israeli fighters would likely trigger the swift destruction of Lebanon’s entire air force. Ground attack missions are unlikely at this point, since the main internal threat is Hezbollah, who is currently part of a 2009 unity government (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8347965.stm).
An interesting shift occurred in early 2010, when Russia and Lebanon agreed to substitute Mi-24 “Hind” helicopter gunships (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/hind/) for the MiG-29s. The Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s saw some air-air engagements involving Iraqi Mi-24s and Iranian AH-1J SeaCobra helicopters, but the Hind’s main use is as a ground attack platform. It fits Lebanon’s military requirements and base infrastructure far better than the MiG-29s would have, but it also introduces an interesting dynamic into military relations within Lebanon.
Meanwhile, Hezbollah’s participation in Lebanon’s government is a triple-edged sword for the Lebanese military.
On the one hand, it makes hostilities with Lebanon’s army unlikely so long as the accord lasts. The other 2 edges, however, are sharp. One is that it gives Hezbollah free rein to re-arm and organize; since Hezbollah’s agenda is set in Iran and not in Lebanon, this may set the stage for a future conflict within or beyond Lebanon. The other is that Israeli officials have said that since Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government, acts carried out by Hezbollah would be considered to be coming from Lebanon’s government – i.e. acts of war rather than terrorism. The strong implication is that any Israeli response would encompass all of Lebanon, not just Hezbollah.
Contracts and Key Events

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Aug 8/10: The US Congress is blocking $100 million in aid to the Lebanese military, amidst concerns it is cooperating with Hezbollah. The Congressional holds come in the wake of an Aug 3 shooting of 2 Israeli officers while brush was being cleared along the northern border. One Israeli officer was killed and another seriously wounded in the firefight, which also killed at least 2 Lebanese soldiers and a journalist. There are reports that the Lebanese troops in question were using American-supplied weapons. Associated Press (http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/08/09/1295377/us-military-aid-to-lebanon-put.html) | Jerusalem Post (http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=184290) | al-Manar TV (http://www.almanar.com.lb/newssite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=149150&language=en) (Hezbollah affiliate) | Lebanon Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=118083#axzz0wFh3SXEk) | Australia’s The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/world/tensions-high-on-israellebanon-border-20100804-11fkt.html)/ Reuters re: clash.
June 3/10: The USA delivers $427,000 worth of weapons, body armor and bomb investigation equipment to Lebanese security officials, via a $1 million anti-terrorism assistance program for Lebanon from the U.S. State Department. UPI (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2010/06/03/US-donates-military-aid-to-Lebanon/UPI-13861275582701/).

Mediocrates
08-11-2010, 11:54 AM
May 24/10: Foreign Policy magazine’s blog The Cable documents rising concern (http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/05/24/us_military_aid_to_lebanon_under_the_microscope_as _hariri_visits_washington) within the Pentagon and Congress over continued military aid to Lebanon, in the wake of what they see as a blurring of the lines between the government and Hezbollah.
Feb 26/10: Make Hinds, not Fulcrums. NaharNet reports (http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/0/DDBAE9C2DA970B4CC22576D60068156B?OpenDocument) that Lebanese President Michel Suleiman has returned from a visit to Russia, and…
“Russian authorities agreed to substitute the 10 MiG-29 fighter jets previously mulled military aid with Mi-24 advanced military helicopters “based on the request of the Lebanese side that conducted technical and functional studies on the Russian fund for the Lebanese Air Force.”
The Mi-24 “Hind” (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/mi-24.htm) helicopter gunship became famous during Russia’s war in Afghanistan, and it remains popular with militaries around the world. The most modern version is the Mi-35. Unlike most attack helicopters, it has secondary troop transport capabilities.
Nov 16/09: Media report that Russian military experts will be visiting Lebanon in the next few days and staying until Nov 26/09. They will be assessing the conditions at Lebanese airports and bases, assessing their ability to support MiG-29s and other equipment. A formal contract for the 10 MiG-29s is expected very shortly after their report. China’s Xinhua reports that the MiG deal is causing some trepidation in certain parts of Lebanon:
“Since then, the deal has sparked an internal debate about the necessity of obtaining these aircraft in a small country like Lebanon, which has a national army and an armed militia Hezbollah, which owns thousands of short and mid-range rockets.”
See also: Lebanese Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=1&article_id=108842) | Naharnet Newsdesk (http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/newsdesk.nsf/0/8CB748CF369B2F0BC225767100301BA6?OpenDocument) | Il-Oubnan (http://www.iloubnan.info/politics/actualite/id/40105/lebanon/Russia%27s-plan-to-supply-Lebanon-with-10-MiG-29-fighter-jets-to-enter-its-final-phase-soon) | China’s Xinhua (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-11/17/content_12471218.htm).
April 9/09: Naharnet Newsdesk reports (http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/Lebanon/C4E6544B51A01293C2257593001BCF28?OpenDocument) confirmation of American arms shipments to Lebanon by US State Department officials David Hale and Colin Kahl:
“Hale said the shipment includes 41 Howitzer artillery and 12 Zodiac boats. He said the Lebanese military will also be receiving in May 12 pilotless Raven aircrafts that would help the army monitor any attempt to fire rockets from southern Lebanon into northern Israel. Hale said the delivery also includes one Cessna Caravan aircraft, which is expected to arrive end of April to provide air support for ground forces. A set of 20 Hellfire air-to-ground missiles and the first batch of 10 M-60 tanks will also be arriving in May, according to Hale.”
April 8/09: The Pentagon’s AFPS reports (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=53846) on progress:
“Toward helping it fulfill that role, the United States has provided more than $410 million in military assistance to Lebanon since 2006. That support has included Humvees, trucks, M-198 howitzer artillery pieces, M-4 and M-16 rifles, body armor vests, MK-19 grenade launchers, shoulder-fired rockets, spare helicopter parts and millions of ammunition rounds.
More recently, the Defense Department has been working with the Lebanese government to expedite delivery of Cessna close-air-support aircraft with precision Hellfire missiles and [RQ-11] Raven unmanned aerial vehicle systems. The United States is also working to transfer M60 Abrams tanks to the Lebanese military from other countries in the region, Kahl said. These systems, expected to be delivered by June….”

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Dec 19/08: Defense News quotes (http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3871558&c=AME&s=TOP) “a senior U.S. state department official… in Beirut” saying that he U.S. plans to deliver M-60 tanks to Lebanon in spring 2009. the official stresses that the US does not see any competition with Russia or other countries, as all assistance to help the Lebanese government is welcome.
Dec 1/08: The Pentagon’s AFPS publishes “U.S. Forces Help Lebanese Military Assert Control (http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52128)”, which discusses American efforts to re-equip Lebanon’s army:
“The United States and Lebanon signed a military cooperation agreement in October [2008], establishing the U.S.-Lebanese Joint Military Commission to provide an official framework for the bilateral U.S.-Lebanese military relationship…. “The most important [recommendation] was that the Lebanese military needed a lot of help in the military basics…. They needed trucks, Humvees, parts and ammunition more than they needed high-end, expensive weaponry.” They also need training…. In 2006, the United States renewed its security relationship with Lebanon, and since then has funneled more than $400 million in foreign military sales money…. “Our part of that is to help build up the Lebanese armed forces so the Lebanese government can be sovereign in all its territory.”
....The United States has sent 285 Humvees to Lebanon, and another 312 will arrive by March. The United States has sent 200 trucks to the Lebanese and 41 M-198 155 mm artillery pieces. The Lebanese army also will get night-vision equipment and some tactical unmanned aerial vehicles. “Behind it is all basics – 12 million rounds of ammo, spare helicopter parts, shoulder-fired rockets,” Straub said. “We want them to play their role in controlling Lebanese territory. We also want them to deter the terrorist threat.” The United States is committed to getting Lebanon more modern tanks, and the U.S. military is working on delivering M-60A3 tanks.”
Dec 18/08: The UK’s Times reports (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5360865.ece) that Russia will provide Lebanon with 10 MiG-29 fighter jets, for free, under an agreement on military-technical assistance. Rosoboronexport’s Mikhail Dmitryev said that the jets would come from Russia’s existing stock, and added that Moscow was also in talks to supply Lebanon with heavy armor. The country currently operates very old T-54/55 Russian tanks.
Aug 27/08: Belgian defense minister Pierre Crem visits Lebanon to finalize an agreement to sell 43 Leopard 1A5 tanks, and 28 M113 derivative armored personnel carriers (16 AIFVs and 12 conventional), to Lebanon. RTL Info via MplL (http://mplbelgique.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/feu-vert-pour-la-vente-darmes-belges-au-liban/).
M113s form the backbone of Lebanese mechanized forces, thanks to significant donations from American stocks. The AIFV model adds a 25mm gun. The Leopard 1A5 is a modernized Leopard tank, roughly on par with or slightly better than the American M60A3.

Mediocrates
08-11-2010, 12:00 PM
France said don't bomb our customers!!!!!

http://islamo-nazism.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-this-story-from-ynet-barak.html

Published: 08.11.10, 10:44 / Israel News

France dissuaded Israel from opening a large-scale military operation against Lebanon in response to the border incident which killed Ltc. Dov Harari, the London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper reported Wednesday.

French sources told the paper that Defense Minister Ehud Barak had informed French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner that "Israel intends on opening a large-scale military operation to educate the Lebanese Army and avenge the death of the senior Israeli officer."

This allegedly led to high-rank contacts involving French President Nicolas Sarkozy, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as well as Egyptian, Jordanian and other Arab state officials.

According to the report, the pressure managed to defuse tensions and prevent another northern campaign.

The French sources reported that the pressure's results were evident in Barak's statements when he said that "Israel didn't plan the incident, nor did the Lebanese Army." They added that the fact that Hezbollah did not interfere in the violence "pushed Lebanon away from a new war which would have been started as a result of one side or another's misconception."

According to the report, Israel knew it wasn't in its interest to fight the LAF since it's the only element able to "solve the issue of south Lebanon and enforce the country's rule in the area."

French officials believe they succeeded in opening a clean slate after the incident and that the current peaceful state will last. Nevertheless, the report noted that Israel had asked Paris to stop supplying the LAF with weapons since they were directed against Israeli forces and may reach Hezbollah.

It was further claimed that France rejected the appeal due to its commitments under a defense pact signed with Beirut. A delay had been detected in the arming of Lebanese fighter jets with air-to-surface French missiles, it was noted.

French officials said in response that the delay was caused by the fact that "Lebanon suffers from a funding issue" as well as internal Lebanese conflicts. The original Al-Sharq al-Awsat report (in Arabic) is here (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aawsat.com%2Fdetails.asp%3Fsect ion%3D1%26issueno%3D11579%26article%3D581864&sl=ar&tl=en).