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JerichoMissile
03-03-2011, 12:01 AM
Recently in the news the last few days more moderate pakistani leaders have been murdered by extremist islamists hoping to turn pakistan into an islamist state that persecutes minorities openly etc...

Now WHEN pakistan falls, because it really is only a matter of WHEN not IF, pakistan falls to the extremists, what will they do with the nuclear weapons?

Logic says the extremist islamists would probably first wanna destroy israel, even before India, do you guys think that Mossad has "prepared" for such an event, or are israels security/defence institutes talking about pakistan falling to extremist muslims and them getting their filthy hands on the nukes.

To be quite fair, i think this is a greater threat to israel than Iran, because iran dosent have nukes, yet.

Personally i think the SHort term risk to israels EXISTANCE is pakistan falling to the taliban and them getting the nukes that already exist, than Iran building a launchable nuke and firing it at israel.

I personally think this could be the catalyst to start a WW3, i know this sounds abit extreme, but i really dont believe the pakistani military when they say dont worry the nukes are safe, pakistan has extreme unemployment, they run out of flour for bread nearly all the time, they are basically Iran, without the insane speeches of ahmadinijad openly.


So what do you guys think of this situation??
Are israelis even talking about pakistan falling and the nukes falling into the hands of evil anti semities??

Sanket
03-03-2011, 01:32 AM
So what do you guys think of this situation??
Are israelis even talking about pakistan falling and the nukes falling into the hands of evil anti semities??

Israeli Gov./Military knows the real danger is Pakistan. Thats y they wanted to destroy Pak. Nuclear Program. They might join hands with Iran/India & America to dismantle Pak. Nukes.

Trust me...Pakis as a country is more insane than ahmadinijad speeches.

JerichoMissile
03-03-2011, 10:35 PM
Israeli Gov./Military knows the real danger is Pakistan. Thats y they wanted to destroy Pak. Nuclear Program. They might join hands with Iran/India & America to dismantle Pak. Nukes.

Trust me...Pakis as a country is more insane than ahmadinijad speeches.

So besides the israeli heirachy just talking about this issue, do you think mossad has agents in Pakistan right now??

How did israel want to destroy pakistans nuclear program?

At the moment with a strong govt, yes i do believe to some extent the paki bomb is secure, the problem is, when the govt is toppled and islamists take over.

And im not picking on pakistan, it could happen anywhere, for eg. if radical right/left wingers were to take control of france, we know they hate jews and they would have the nuke.

Sanket
03-04-2011, 12:18 AM
So besides the israeli heirachy just talking about this issue, do you think mossad has agents in Pakistan right now??

Yes.


How did israel want to destroy pakistans nuclear program?

During the 1973 Arab-Israeli conflict, Bhutto sent PAF pilots to fly the Jordanian fighters, something that the Israeli Defence Minister Gen. Moshe Dayan was angry with. Bhutto also assured President Hafiz al-Assad of Syria that should Damascus be in danger from the Zionists, a Pakistan brigade would be ready to fly over and fight shoulder-to-shoulder with the Syrians.

Israel never forgot the the above. Pakistan also called its Nuclear Bomb as 'Islamic Bomb'.

Israel stepped in, suggesting that it carry out the raid, using India's airbase at Jamnagar to launch Israeli air force jets and a second base in northern India to refuel. A senior Israeli analyst close to the operation recalled that the plan was to enter Pakistan beneath the radar, with jets tracking the line of the Himalayas through Kashmir. As Reagan's staff finalized arrangements for the president's visit to China in March 1984, prime minister Indira Gandhi signed off the Israeli-led operation, bringing India, Pakistan and Israel to within a hair's breadth of a nuclear conflagration. It was at this point that the CIA tipped off President Zia, hoping the chain reaction would defuse the situation.

The plan was called-off after PM Indira's assassination.


At the moment with a strong govt, yes i do believe to some extent the paki bomb is secure, the problem is, when the govt is toppled and islamists take over.

Pakistan NEVER had a Strong Government. It has always been controlled by its Military.

Pakistan started to radicalize their people after 1971 war defeat because two-nation theory had collapsed (Bangladesh). Today most the people in Pakistan are from Zia's Era (1977). So even in the Pakistani Army, you will find many Taliban Sympathizers.



And im not picking on pakistan, it could happen anywhere, for eg. if radical right/left wingers were to take control of france, we know they hate jews and they would have the nuke.

Huge difference between France, other Muslim Countries & Pakistan.

Pakistan is the only country which was created FOR Islam. This idiots think its their job to protect Muslims worldwide.

They dont have any history or culture. As Insane as Gaddafi.

Sanket
03-04-2011, 12:22 AM
An Army Without a Country
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2011/mar/04/army-without-country/


the army has so far failed to express regret about either Bhatti’s murder or Taseer’s. The army chief General Ashfaq Kayani declined to publicly condemn Taseer’s death or even to issue a public condolence to his family. He told Western ambassadors in January in Islamabad that there were too many soldiers in the ranks who sympathize with the killer, and showed them a scrapbook of photographs of Taseer’s killer being hailed as a hero by fellow police officers. Any public statement, he hinted, could endanger the army’s unity.

JerichoMissile
03-04-2011, 12:31 AM
Pakistan is the only country which was created FOR Islam. This idiots think its their job to protect Muslims worldwide.



So why hasent Pakistan "helped" their brothers the "palestianians" directly?
why havent the pakistanis sent any of their navy to gaza to end israel blockade?

is it american pressure that stops them, or are they secretly scared of israel, or they actually couldnt care less about the "palestinians"??

Sanket
03-04-2011, 01:10 AM
So why hasent Pakistan "helped" their brothers the "palestianians" directly?
why havent the pakistanis sent any of their navy to gaza to end israel blockade?

is it american pressure that stops them, or are they secretly scared of israel, or they actually couldnt care less about the "palestinians"??

Palestinians still remember what Zia did to them in 1970.

Brigadier Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (later Chief of Army Staff and President of Pakistan), took command of the 2nd Division and helped kill and cleanse the Palestinians (est. 25,000 dead) from Jordan.

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The average Abdul in Pakistan still talks/protests about Jews killing Palestinians. But they dont know about Zia role.

Thats y u will not find many Palestinians supporting Pakistan for Kashmir Cause.

Mil
03-04-2011, 05:30 AM
To tell you the truth I am not even sure how Pakistan even functions as a nation. What do they produce exactly?

Sanket
03-04-2011, 07:09 AM
To tell you the truth I am not even sure how Pakistan even functions as a nation. What do they produce exactly?

Founder of Pakistan in September 1947 (One Month After Pakistan's Creation)

"America needs Pakistan more than Pakistan needs America," was Jinnah's reply. "

Pakistan is the pivot of the world, as we are placed" -- he revolved his long forefinger in bony circles -- "the frontier on which the future position of the world revolves." He leaned toward me, dropping his voice to a confidential note. "Russia," confided Mr. Jinnah, "is not so very far away."
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"Surely America will build up our army," they would say to me. "Surely America will give us loans to keep Russia from walking in."


I hope this answers your question. ;)
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Pakistan sleeps with any1 who has money & for them Pakistan's collapse is a great danger.

Till now America is paying this whore n taking care of it & now China is also showing interest in her.

Mediocrates
03-04-2011, 08:11 AM
Well I know for one we have no plans to move call centers there. Malaysia, Africa even. But not there.

Sanket
03-04-2011, 08:54 AM
Well I know for one we have no plans to move call centers there. Malaysia, Africa even. But not there.

They dont need Call centers. They have mastered the business of I.T (International Terrorism.)