Beirut horror fashion show [Archive]

Miriam

12-03-2002, 01:52 AM

The photos are from September this year but I believe that they deserve to be preserved for the posterity.

The person depicted is a top Lebanese model Nathalie Fadlallah dispalying a dress designed by the Saudi (sic!) couturier Yahya al-Bushairy (the gentleman on one of the following pictures). The outfit is part of his spring 2003 collection, I wonder whether the streets of Beirut will bloom with this work of art next year :eek:

Miriam

12-03-2002, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Miriam
The photos are from September this year but I believe that they deserve to be preserved for the posterity.

The person depicted is a top Lebanese model Nathalie Fadlallah dispalying a dress designed by the Saudi (sic!) couturier Yahya al-Bushairy (the gentleman on one of the following pictures). The outfit is part of his spring 2003 collection, I wonder whether the streets of Beirut will bloom with this work of art next year :eek:

Miriam

12-03-2002, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Miriam

ayesha

12-03-2002, 07:30 AM

Miriam

12-03-2002, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
im an expert on this. i'll tell u if they'll go down well for a new spring collection.-but if they have his face or any other saudi on em, i doubt it!
i eagerly await the pics I'm afraid they are pretty awful :(

The explanation runs as follows: the brown splotches are the blood of the Palestinian martyrs. The pictures are of Muqata with an (slightly comical, experts say) Israeli tank in front of it and of Mohammed al-Dura.

But since you have noticed it, tell me: is this kind of stuff more or less in line with the local taste (as opposed to political views)? Would a normal Lebanese woman ever consider to wear such a dress?

minusthejihad

12-03-2002, 10:21 AM

Wow, now that is fashion!

Miriam

12-03-2002, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
im an expert on this. i'll tell u if they'll go down well for a new spring collection.-but if they have his face or any other saudi on em, i doubt it!
i eagerly await the pics
P.S.: since you are an expert ;) - I had to scale down the original high resolution photos b/c of the size limitations on this forum, so here is - may NewsGuy forgive me ;) - a compilation of the crucial details for better visibility:

NewsGuy

12-03-2002, 04:47 PM

[Doesn't mind "crucial details" of model pics.]

:)

But I'd recommend a good laundry service for the lady.

ayesha

12-04-2002, 02:33 AM

sadly ive seen this before and im sorry to disappoint but some of the saudi "designers'"catwalk shows i have attended back home in beirut have been much worse than this. much worse. the last time something like this was done there was a big outcry in the media about fashion and politics not mixing. the show was stormed- the dress that did it was a depiction of a baby from the Sabra and Chatila massacre whose head had been blown off, and Muhammed Al-Dorah calling on other kids to be 'martyrs'. sick.

and no a normal leb woman wouldnt wear this dress, come on (more lebanese women are into Zuhair Murad/ Yahya Bishriari/ Hayfa Wehbe/ Elie Saab).

www.thedaleel.com/index.php?page=subcategory&code_id=98[url]

[url]www.zuhairmurad.com.lb
www.hayfawehbe.com
www.zuhairmurad.com.lb
www.camillechamoun.com
www.robertabinader.com

these are what we wear, not sick saudi rejects.
its a political ploy - saudis yet again, why didnt he do that show in riyadh or jeddah?

ayesha

12-04-2002, 03:24 AM

BTW, which site did you get these images from? A Leb 1? I would be very surprised if that is the case.

Miriam

12-04-2002, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
BTW, which site did you get these images from? A Leb 1? I would be very surprised if that is the case. Some newssite, probably Yahoo. The photos are from AFP. Perfectly mainstream Western reporting. I have downloaded the stuff then and forgotten it for some time.

ayesha

12-04-2002, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by Miriam
Some newssite, probably Yahoo. The photos are from AFP. Perfectly mainstream Western reporting. I have downloaded the stuff then and forgotten it for some time.

yes, i had a look for them myself and found these exact same pics on www.hindustantimes.com and a couple other sites but not one was lebanese, they would never allow it. perhaps with an exception of lebs that are originally palestinians, but i still doubt it.

ayesha

12-04-2002, 06:01 AM

Do excuse me but this article is a couple of years old and I didn't see any new craze to wear this woman's 'chic' when I was in Beirut at that time. But anyhow.. I found this picture on middle-east-online.com.

The fashion statement is the work of US-educated Lebanese designer Loulwa Abdel Bakri.

minusthejihad

12-04-2002, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
sadly ive seen this before and im sorry to disappoint but some of the saudi "designers'"catwalk shows i have attended back home in beirut have been much worse than this. much worse. the last time something like this was done there was a big outcry in the media about fashion and politics not mixing. the show was stormed- the dress that did it was a depiction of a baby from the Sabra and Chatila massacre whose head had been blown off, and Muhammed Al-Dorah calling on other kids to be 'martyrs'. sick.

and no a normal leb woman wouldnt wear this dress, come on (more lebanese women are into Zuhair Murad/ Yahya Bishri/ Hayfa Wehbe/ Elie Saab).

www.thedaleel.com/index.php?page=subcategory&code_id=98[url]

[url]www.zuhairmurad.com.lb
www.hayfawehbe.com
www.zuhairmurad.com.lb
www.camillechamoun.com
www.robertabinader.com

these are what we wear, not sick saudi rejects.
its a political ploy - saudis yet again, why didnt he do that show in riyadh or jeddah?

Yes, I would agree that these are a bit more "pret a porter"!

How common are blond Lebanese women and has it been more risky to look so "Western" in Lebanon since Syria's presence? Sorry, I'm completely ignorant on this subject.

judicial meanz

12-04-2002, 11:22 AM

Maybe next years line will have burkha's with a built in self punishment device that can be remotely activated by the man in the house?

Geez......even the clothing designers are becoming radical.

ayesha

12-05-2002, 02:26 AM

Originally posted by minusthejihad
Yes, I would agree that these are a bit more "pret a porter"!

How common are blond Lebanese women and has it been more risky to look so "Western" in Lebanon since Syria's presence? Sorry, I'm completely ignorant on this subject.

Blondes are as common in Lebanon as they are in America,- my grandmother is blonde, so are a few of my aunties.
And yes, that's the best thing about Lebanon, when I go back I can do the same, dress the same, interact the same as I would here in the UK. Syria's presence makes no difference in this respect, its the same story for them- they look the same as Lebs (blondes, brunettes, blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes- a mix that's not common at all with Arabs from the Gulf region) - and the fusion of Western and Eastern styles are present there too.- so they dont clash with us in Lebanon about that.
Syria likes to interfere with our politics and are certainly not welcome in that arena, but are most welcome to participate in our beauty pageants, as long as they make a swift journey home after :D

ayesha

12-05-2002, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by judicial meanz
Maybe next years line will have burkha's with a built in self punishment device that can be remotely activated by the man in the house?

Geez......even the clothing designers are becoming radical.

making political statements with fashion is not uncommon, but the past has shown it's not a wise thing to do -Lebanese American actress/model Yasmine Bleeth knows that more than anyone, she was shamed a few years ago. I'm surprised Ms.FadlAllah allowed herself to be used in this way too.

minusthejihad

12-05-2002, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
making political statements with fashion is not uncommon, but the past has shown it's not a wise thing to do -Lebanese American actress/model Yasmine Bleeth knows that more than anyone, she was shamed a few years ago. I'm surprised Ms.FadlAllah allowed herself to be used in this way too.

Yasmine is a name common to both Jews and Lebanese. Some people even think Yasmine is (part) Jewish. So you are sure she is Lebanese? Muslim, Marionite?

Also, please tell what she did if you can, I haven't heard and am too lazy to search for it, he he.

ayesha

12-09-2002, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by minusthejihad
Yasmine is a name common to both Jews and Lebanese. Some people even think Yasmine is (part) Jewish. So you are sure she is Lebanese? Muslim, Marionite?

Also, please tell what she did if you can, I haven't heard and am too lazy to search for it, he he.

I know she's Lebanese but I dont know what religion she is. You may be thinking of Shannon Elizabeth (real name Fadal -who played Nadia, the sexy Czech student in 'American Pie') She's a mixture of Syrian and Lebanese, i believe she's muslim but has jewish blood somewhere in her family tree.

I cant really remember what Yasmine did exactly -i believe it was something similiar to Ms.FadlAllah, only she wasnt modelling anything, just attending a music festival -i know that at the time israeli troops were in south lebanon, and it was something about that

save me some of that fatoush!

minusthejihad

12-09-2002, 04:08 PM

Ahhh, Nadia....

Thanks for the info and spelling lesson :)

richcrassus

12-09-2002, 06:28 PM

It proves just how barbaric muslim countries are becoming, its not just the fashion designers who have to have a sick enough mind to come up with 'fashion' like that, but the organisers and the public have to watch and approve. Obvioulsy they do.
You wouldnt see a fashion parade in a western country with a model with a dress of the twin towers collapsing or a dress with Guantanamo Bay on it would you, i mean at a top New york fashion show.
Just proves muslim and different from jews and christians, thats all.

ayesha

12-10-2002, 02:34 AM

ayesha

12-10-2002, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by minusthejihad
Ahhh, Nadia....

Thanks for the info and spelling lesson :)

oh, another fan of Fadal i see -
just dont forget my fatoush :p

phgnome

12-10-2002, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by richcrassus
It proves just how barbaric muslim countries are becoming, its not just the fashion designers who have to have a sick enough mind to come up with 'fashion' like that, but the organisers and the public have to watch and approve. Obvioulsy they do.
You wouldnt see a fashion parade in a western country with a model with a dress of the twin towers collapsing or a dress with Guantanamo Bay on it would you, i mean at a top New york fashion show.
Just proves muslim and different from jews and christians, thats all.

It's not the sick mind of Islam ... it's the sick mind of capitalism. If he wanted to make a political statement, why didn't he do it creatively? The dress looks like nothing more than a cheap T-shirt. It looks like he just whipped up something overnight and wanted to make a quick buck off it -- he wanted to turn a piece of polyester into a high-ticket item because of it's a political statement. If he wanted to do something real for a cause he really believed in, he should've spent the time to make some nice pieces and donate all the proceeds of sales to a cause.

IlyaFurman

12-10-2002, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
Syria's presence makes no difference in this respect, its the same story for them- they look the same as Lebs (blondes, brunettes, blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes- a mix that's not common at all with Arabs from the Gulf region) -

Syrians, Palestians, Lebanese, and Hebrew Jews are genetically the same, so they are the same people with differnt religions.

The most commom look for all of them are not blonde hair and blue eyes, yeah there are alot, but the majority have pale skin and brown eyes, and blackish brown hair. Just like you I bet ayesha.

IlyaFurman

12-10-2002, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by minusthejihad
Yasmine is a name common to both Jews and Lebanese. Some people even think Yasmine is (part) Jewish. So you are sure she is Lebanese? Muslim, Marionite?

Yasmines mom is Jewish, her Father is Algerian Muslim I believe.

Shakira is half lebanese.

Salma Hayek is half lebanese.

Ralph Nader is Lebanese.

Shannon Elizabeth is half syrian/lebanese and half Indian.

ayesha

12-11-2002, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
Syrians, Palestians, Lebanese, and Hebrew Jews are genetically the same, so they are the same people with differnt religions.

The most commom look for all of them are not blonde hair and blue eyes, yeah there are alot, but the majority have pale skin and brown eyes, and blackish brown hair. Just like you I bet ayesha.

no not quite, there are as many redheads as there are blondes, and as many blondes as there are brunettes etc. just in the gulf -saudia, qatar, yemen, etc they have dark hair only, with either green/black eyes.

i have pale skin originally but i like a fresh tan im afraid, so im 'samra' now. and no, my hair was blonde/brown but i dyed it cosmic red/black, and no ur close but not quite, i have honey coloured eyes.

ayesha

12-11-2002, 08:19 AM

yasmine is algerian?! lol where did you get that from?

you can add gloria estefan and emilio estefan to that list - gloria's mum is quarter syrian and her husband is full lebanese. i dont see the point of this but anyway, u'll find yasmine and others here

http://www.wlcu.com/famous%20list/Famous%20list.html

http://www.aaiusa.org/famous_arab_americans.htm

http://www.cedarseed.com/lebfigures.html

http://www.amalid.com/prominent_lebanese_americans.htm

Mediocrates

12-11-2002, 12:50 PM

Tony Shaloub is the Man.

Monk for President

IlyaFurman

12-11-2002, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
no not quite, there are as many redheads as there are blondes, and as many blondes as there are brunettes etc. just in the gulf -saudia, qatar, yemen, etc they have dark hair only, with either green/black eyes.

i have pale skin originally but i like a fresh tan im afraid, so im 'samra' now. and no, my hair was blonde/brown but i dyed it cosmic red/black, and no ur close but not quite, i have honey coloured eyes.

the majority of lebanese have brownish black hair, and brow, light brown eyes (honey) rite? I didnt say there werent many redheads etc, but most are pale skinned and light brow to dark brown hair and brow and light brown hair.

IlyaFurman

12-11-2002, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
yasmine is algerian?! lol where did you get that from?

her mom is,

Yasmine Bleeth was born on June 14, 1968 in New York City, New York. She is the daughter of a French/North African (Algerian) model named Carina and a Russian/German photographer named Philip who runs a business that rents
vans to fashion photographers for on-location shoots. He now is Yasmine's business manager.

http://boozers.fortunecity.com/elephant/201/yasminebleeth.html

Thank you very much.

ayesha

12-12-2002, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
Yasmines mom is Jewish, her Father is Algerian Muslim I believe.

so which is it? her mum or her dad? you arent supposed to answer that, forget it, its not really an issue - she must be a fusion of everything :rolleyes:

ayesha

12-12-2002, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Mediocrates
Tony Shaloub is the Man.

Monk for President

you betcha, i had a strange crush on him when i was a teen ??????? -dont ask

ayesha

12-12-2002, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by phgnome
It looks like he just whipped up something overnight and wanted to make a quick buck off it -- he wanted to turn a piece of polyester into a high-ticket item because of it's a political statement. If he wanted to do something real for a cause he really believed in, he should've spent the time to make some nice pieces and donate all the proceeds of sales to a cause.

absolutely couldnt agree more

ayesha

12-12-2002, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
the majority of lebanese have brownish black hair, and brow, light brown eyes (honey) rite? I didnt say there werent many redheads etc, but most are pale skinned and light brow to dark brown hair and brow and light brown hair.

if you say so. i mean..ur the leb here right?

Mediocrates

12-12-2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by ayesha
so which is it? her mum or her dad? you arent supposed to answer that, forget it, its not really an issue - she must be a fusion of everything :rolleyes:

Of course when Yasmine been's that radically changed by modern surgery it matters little what she used to be.

IlyaFurman

12-12-2002, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
if you say so. i mean..ur the leb here right?

Are you kidding is this your response?

I served in Lebanon in the peacekeeping mission for many years.

MOST LEBANESE PEOPLE HAVE LIGHT BROWN TO DARK BROWN HAIR, and BROWN EYES TO LIGHT BROWN EYES, i would say 85 to 90% ive seen some blondes but MOST IS what i mentioned, same with Syria.

IlyaFurman

12-12-2002, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
so which is it? her mum or her dad? you arent supposed to answer that, forget it, its not really an issue - she must be a fusion of everything :rolleyes:

well I knew it was one or the two, I dont memorize peoples parents nationalities. Arent you the one that said this?

Originally posted by ayesha
yasmine is algerian?! lol where did you get that from?

Now that I proved hes half algerian you had to come with "fusion" comment to make yourself feel better, just accept you were wrong and keep quiet.

ayesha

12-12-2002, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
well I knew it was one or the two, I dont memorize peoples parents nationalities. Arent you the one that said this?

Now that I proved hes half algerian you had to come with "fusion" comment to make yourself feel better, just accept you were wrong and keep quiet.

gosh, u must have a pretty empty life to be stressing over something as futile and silly as this. chill, i dont really give a

ayesha

12-12-2002, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
Are you kidding is this your response?

I served in Lebanon in the peacekeeping mission for many years.

and im lebanese, and?

IlyaFurman

12-12-2002, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
and im lebanese, and?

I dont care if your lebanese or not, saying that most lebanese people dont have black, brown, light brown hair, or black brown light brown eyes is false, most of them do.

Alot of women over there look greek.

IlyaFurman

12-12-2002, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by ayesha
gosh, u must have a pretty empty life to be stressing over something as futile and silly as this. chill, i dont really give a

ha, good one, just accept you were wrong and keep quiet.

Mediocrates

12-12-2002, 12:33 PM

What's wrong with you - do you always need to get the last word?

ayesha

12-12-2002, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
I dont care if your lebanese or not, saying that most lebanese people dont have black, brown, light brown hair, or black brown light brown eyes is false, most of them do.

oh shut up furman, just say the majority u saw were like that or did u travel the whole of lebanon? i didnt say i was lebanese for your information, im telling i know more about my people than u - now, stop trying to fuel a silly conversation

IlyaFurman

12-12-2002, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Mediocrates
What's wrong with you - do you always need to get the last word?

Well, I was right in this instance, so yes.

And as for Nathalie Fadlallah, she is also a women with light brown to dark brown hair, that is dyed blonde.

http://www.nathalysagency.com/New_Folder/Nathalie_Fadlallah_-_1970.jpg