The Inauguration Speech Sharon Should Give (But Won´t)

[humus_sapiens]

The Inauguration Speech Sharon Should Give (But Won´t)
Steven Plaut

Ladies and Gentleman, I want to thank you for voting for me, for the Likud, and for our coalition partners. As your new prime minister, I would like to lay out for you the main guidelines of policy for my new government.

In general, my new government will be continuing the policies of the past governments, with only a few minor adjustments, mere secondary tinkerings, a few reforms, that is all. Nothing more than fixing the cracks here and there in the plaster. All designed to make our country more humane, more democratic, and more peaceful.

National Reforms and Changes:

* The very first act of my new government will be to establish the Israeli National Museum of Folly, to be erected near Yad Vashem, which will document and interpret the era of Oslo for Israel´s children and other citizens. Scholars and researchers from all over the world will flock to this new institution to study the era of Oslo stupidity.

* My second act will be to declare that Shimon Peres and Yossi Beilin will be indicted for 1200 counts of second-degree murder, plus many thousands of counts of attempted second-degree murder.

Military and Security Policy:

* The West Bank and Gaza Strip will be immediately conquered militarily by Israel. Arafat and all his senior henchmen will be killed. All other leaders of the Palestinian Authority will be either killed, jailed, or deported, with no civilian trials.

* Israel will announce an immediate implementation of a regime of DeNazification for the West Bank and Gaza Strip, based in part on the DeNazification programs of the Allies in Germany and Japan after World War II.

* The West Bank and Gaza Strip will permanently closed off to all journalists and media.

* Any journalist in Israel who has ever expressed approval of Arab terrorism or who justified Arab terrorism or whose employer did, will immediately be stripped of his journalist credentials and certifications. Foreign journalists so stripped will be deported.

* Any Palestinian neighborhood, village, or town in which any act of violence takes place will be sealed off, will have all of its utilities shut off, and will be provided with drinking water and stale pita, for an open-ended, unlimited period of time. Israel will embrace as its official mantra, "Collective Punishment for Collective Guilt". Residents of these areas requesting to emigrate will be allowed to do so. Barrier walls and security fences will be erected around these enclaves by Israel. Infiltrators will be shot.

* Residents of Palestinian towns in which no acts of violence take place will have their utilities turned on, will be allowed to move about freely to other non-violent areas of the West Bank and Gaza, will be allowed to elect their own municipal government, but will not be allowed to enter pre-1967 Israel.

* Adult family members of suicide bombers will be executed or deported, and all of their property forfeited.

* Israel will adopt the policy of Los Angeles and other US cities, according to which Palestinians turning in guns or turning in wanted terrorists to Israel can trade them in for food or money.

* All Palestinian funds in Israeli banks or in the Israeli banking clearinghouse will be confiscated.

* Any Palestinian assisting suicide bombers or any who attempts unsuccessfully to perpetrate a suicide bombing will be captured, will be flown in an Israeli helicopter over Ramallah or Gaza City, will be handcuffed, will have an explosives belt attached to his or her waist, and then will be hurled out of the helicopter and detonated in the air above the city, while the helicopter will be playing through loudspeakers Tchaikovsky´s 1812 Overture. That is because it would be poor taste to play Wagner.

* Capital punishment for terrorists will be immediately implemented and all executed terrorists will be buried in unmarked graves in pigskins. The government will sell lottery tickets to anyone who wishes to purchase them, whereby the winner of the lottery gets to execute one terrorist. Members of the families of those murdered by terrorists will be offered special preferences. The proceeds will be used to balance the government´s budget.

* Israel will endeavor to solve the parking congestion problems in the Hizbollah villages of southern Lebanon.

* Israel will turn administration of the mosques on the Temple Mount over to Turkey. Jews will be permitted to pray on the Temple Mount - just not inside the mosques. Palestinians from villages, families, or neighborhoods in which absolute tranquility exists, including a complete absence of rock throwing, will be permitted to pray in the al-Aqsa mosque; all others will be denied permission.

* The IDF will be instructed to shoot anyone throwing rocks, bombs, molotovs, or shooting at any Israeli jeep, tank, or military outpost or installation. Large banners will be affixed above the entrances into Palestinian towns and villages that read, "Throw a Rock at a Jew and Die," and also, "Minors who throw rocks at Jews, their blood is on the heads of their parents."

* Israeli Arabs will be conscripted into national non-military service.

* Any Israeli Arab or Jew expressing approval of Arab terrorism, justification of Arab terrorism, or joy at Arab terrorism will have his or her citizenship revoked. Waving a flag of the PLO or the Hizbollah will be grounds for revocation of citizenship.

Civic Issues:

* Israel will adopt a system of ballot propositions, whereby once every year or two years citizens will be permitted to vote on ballot proposals by popular vote. Any vote on such a proposition will be binding on the Knesset and the courts. Any resolution with 60,000 signatures supporting putting it on the ballot, will be.

* Among those matters upon which Israeli citizens will be permitted to vote in ballot propositions will be the removal of any public official, including judges and cabinet ministers. Any vote by simple majority to remove any such official, will be binding, except for removal of the prime minister, which will require a 60% super-majority.

* Similar ballot impeachment proceedings will be introduced for local and municipal governments.

* An oath of loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state will be introduced for all public officials, including Knesset members. Those refusing to take the oath will be denied their seats, positions and state pensions.

* Any past Attorney General who prosecuted anti-Oslo dissidents for expressing their opinions will himself be indicted.

Fiscal Matters:

* The salaries of all acting cabinet members will be reduced each year by the largest of either three times the percent of the budget deficit, or three times the inflation rate, or three times the percent growth rate in the government´s budget.

* The Knesset will approve a global salary pool from which all cabinet ministers will be paid. The pool will be a fixed size, regardless of the number of cabinet ministers, and so the more ministers there will be, the less each gets paid.

* The Israel Broadcasting Authority will be abolished at once, all its employees fired, and all its equipment and assets privatized. Radio and TV airwaves will be sold in competitive tender, except that, as an act of affirmative action, Arutz-7 will be offered its own air slot at half price.

* The Ministries of Trade and Industry, Agriculture (other than veterinary services, which will be moved to the Ministry of Health), Religion, and Tourism will all be abolished.

* All import tariffs and non-tariff import barriers will be abolished except for cars. All subsidies for everything besides public transit will be abolished, and the Egged and Dan bus monopolies will be abolished.

* The Council on Higher Education will be abolished, all colleges and universities will be privatized, and all future governmental support for higher education will be in the form of tuition vouchers for army
veterans.

* Every household will have the right to opt out of governmental programs like public schools, Kupat Holim sick fund health insurance, and governmental pension programs. Anyone opting out will be provided with vouchers with which similar services may be purchased in the private sector. For example, tuition vouchers may be used to go to private schools. The vouchers will reflect the fair share of the household in the budget allotment for that service. Those opting out of the National Insurance Institute (Bituach Leumi) programs will have to purchase private sector insurance and will be exempted from one half of the NII payroll taxes. School vouchers will be usable in any school that does not teach treason or promote violence.

* The bailout of kibbutz debts will be retroactively invalidated. Any kibbutz already having its debts erased will reimburse the government for one half of what it received.

* All water for agriculture will be sold in competitive tenders and auctions. Urban water will be priced based on the average of these tender prices. Add-ons for costs of piping and delivery will be charged. The total amount of water pumped from the Kinneret and the aquifers will be set by a panel of hydrologists with no connections to farm interests.

In sum, as you see, I am proposing only the most minor adjustments in policy and almost negligible reforms.

I believe these will improve our nation, somewhat. Thanks you, ladies and gentleman.

(Applause, applause, applause!)

[strategist]

You forgot the bit about building gas chambers for Palestinians and secular Jews.

[strategist]

Actually, even more shocking, 25 or so people viewed this thread before me, and no one had the common decency to tell this guy where to get off. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[humus_sapiens]

Originally posted by strategist
Actually, even more shocking, 25 or so people viewed this thread before me, and no one had the common decency to tell this guy where to get off. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Somehow, your common decency ends when it comes to Israel. We extended our hand of peace. And we tried. And tried. And tried again. What we got in return: number of all-out wars, guerilla wars, wars of attrition, terror, and more terror.

BTW, thanks to UK/GB for giving away 78% of Pal. Mandate to Jordan in 1921 (still Judenfrei), shutting down the immigration to Eretz Israel before and during the Holocaust, and breaking every single promise they made to the Jews.

[ibrodsky]

I have a complaint: why should Arutz-7 get a license for half price? That isn't fair.

I also don't think terrorists should be exploded over Palestinian population centers. That is unsanitary and improper; there are some innocent Palestinians and Israel should encourage rather than alienate them.

Terrorists convicted of planning or aiding mass murder attacks should be executed by lethal injection. Their bodies should be wrapped in pigskins and returned to their families who should be deported to any country that will have them (except for Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, and Jordan). If no country is willing to take them, they should be deposited in Saudi Arabia and the racist Saudi government notified of their GPS coordinates.

[sharonbn]

Your "speech" makes the Palestinians look like sheepish peacefull man-loving creatures...

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by strategist
Actually, even more shocking, 25 or so people viewed this thread before me, and no one had the common decency to tell this guy where to get off. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Obviously, many here don't agree with those statements, and many think they are outrageous.

Please feel free to disagree and state your case. That's what the board is here for.

Or if you think there is a violation, please point it out specifically.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by strategist
Actually, even more shocking, 25 or so people viewed this thread before me, and no one had the common decency to tell this guy where to get off. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Where were you when the PLO was posting their manifesto? Why is it that defending Israel is unfair? Why is voicing frustration for the lack of justice for the Jews considered an abandonment of common decency? If Israel got half a shot at a fair shake we would likely not see such frustration. Get off your high horse.

[strategist]

Or if you think there is a violation, please point it out specifically.


The following quote is blatantly racist:

all executed terrorists will be buried in unmarked graves in pigskins


If someone said the same about Jews, we would be up in arms screaming anti-semitism.



Where were you when the PLO was posting their manifesto? Why is it that defending Israel is unfair? Why is voicing frustration for the lack of justice for the Jews considered an abandonment of common decency? If Israel got half a shot at a fair shake we would likely not see such frustration. Get off your high horse.


So, have you ever served in the IDF? Cause I have.




Somehow, your common decency ends when it comes to Israel. We extended our hand of peace. And we tried. And tried. And tried again. What we got in return: number of all-out wars, guerilla wars, wars of attrition, terror, and more terror.


Since I am Israeli, and you're from the US, I think that my common decency ends when bigots like yourself start calling for the extermination of Palestinians and secular Jews.

Have you ever been near a suicide bombing? Well, I have, 3 in fact. So, don't you patronize me.

[Frans_1]

. delected. no point adding fuel to the fire.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by strategist
The following quote is blatantly racist: ...
... don't you patronize me.
I, for one don't seek to patronize you, rather I would greatly appreciate your opinion as to how to deal with the issues that were raised in the original post.

Since you are resident to the problems, how do you suggest dealing with the blatanlty racist terrorism that has rocked Israel and threatens the safety and security of every Israeli, Jew or Arab? How can serious "Peace Talks" be held when the people you are dealing with have shown no good faith and no intention of abiding by the terms of a negotiated settlement? What are your seggestions for the complicated domestic issues that Israel faces today?

Debate is about countering someone else's opinion with one of your own. You are obviously passionate about your fellings on the things that concern Israel, tell us what you would do if you were appointed Prime Minister.

[minusthejihad]

Originally posted by strategist
The following quote is blatantly racist:


Don't see any racism there. Since a terrorist is beneath humanity, I don't think anything said or done to them is in any way racist. These people are anti-human, they kill everyone for their bloodlust. Kill them first, wrap them in pigskin and burn them in front of their families, especially after you have knock down their house first.

Second, Jews wouldn't be "up in arms" because Jews would seperate and distance themselves from these monsters just like we did any other Jews that killed innocent women, children, elderly, and other non-combatents.

How do I know you are Israeli? There's no proof. You pull that card anytime you feel threatened. Guess what? I'm Prince of Zamunda!

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by strategist
If someone said the same about Jews, we would be up in arms screaming anti-semitism.
No, the idea of placing the bodies of Islamic suicide bombers in pigskin as a deterrent to terrorism is not racist. It addresses the core problem of Islamic-based incitement that urges Muslims to massacre Jews and Christians with the express purpose of going to Muslim heaven.

Since Muslims believe that one cannot go to heaven if buried in pigskin, the possibility of threatening suicide bombers with that fate is a defensive tactic worthwhile to consider.

So, have you ever served in the IDF? Cause I have.
Very good, strategist. Did you volunteer, or were you drafted with no choice? And while in the army, what was your role?

Since I am Israeli, and you're from the US, I think that my common decency ends when bigots like yourself start calling for the extermination of Palestinians and secular Jews.
Even though this comment is not addressed to me, I will respond to it. JustPat is not a bigot. He can actually serve as an example of how one should conduct themselves in discussing any particular topic. I, for one, am glad to have him on board as part of our community.

Have you ever been near a suicide bombing? Well, I have, 3 in fact. So, don't you patronize me.

Actually, I was at the scene of a bus bombing in Israel, together with my family. Only by miracle we were not killed. Having experience first-hand what Arab terrorism was like, I can say that I can very well identify with those who take a hard line against the Palestinian terrorist infrastructure and its supporters. It may not be fashionable to think of it this way, but it is truly us or them. If left to their own devices, they will slaughter us by the thousands, if they could, as they have been attempting to do for decades.

If it takes wrapping a dead Islamic suicide bomber in pigskin or anything else, for that matter, so be it. If it takes forcefully removing the Arab threat from the vicinity of their intended victims, so be it. Anything we need to do to save lives is well worth the inconvenience to the terrorists and their supporters.

If at some point the Arabs and other radical Muslims around the world will be able to become civilized, peaceful neighbors, we will welcome that. Already, Israel has offered peaceful solutions countless times in the past and have always been rejected by the Arabs. But until then, there is a war of terrorism against Jews and Christians worldwide.

So, instead of asking the victims to keep on swallowing their losses and burying their dead quietly, we should put the burden on the Arab and Islamic murderers who are responsible for the current state of affairs. That's not something to apologize for -- it is common sense and necessity.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by NewsGuy No, the idea of placing the bodies of Islamic suicide bombers in pigskin as a deterrent to terrorism is not racist. It addresses the core problem of Islamic-based incitement that urges Muslims to massacre Jews and Christians with the express purpose of going to Muslim heaven. Since Muslims believe that one cannot go to heaven if buried in pigskin, the possibility of threatening suicide bombers with that fate is a defensive tactic worthwhile to consider.
If it takes wrapping a dead Islamic suicide bomber in pigskin or anything else, for that matter, so be it. If it takes forcefully removing the Arab threat from the vicinity of their intended victims, so be it. Anything we need to do to save lives is well worth the inconvenience to the terrorists and their supporters.
Exactly. If in death they are found to be "unclean" they will not be able to enter paradise. Much worse has been done to guarantee the unclean status. I think strategist missed your point.

Originally posted by NewsGuy Even though this comment is not addressed to me, I will respond to it. JustPat is not a bigot. He can actually serve as an example of how one should conduct themselves in discussing any particular topic. I, for one, am glad to have him on board as part of our community.
Thank you, and I am honored to be included.

Originally posted by NewsGuy If at some point the Arabs and other radical Muslims around the world will be able to become civilized, peaceful neighbors, we will welcome that. Already, Israel has offered peaceful solutions countless times in the past and have always been rejected by the Arabs. But until then, there is a war of terrorism against Jews and Christians worldwide.

So, instead of asking the victims to keep on swallowing their losses and burying their dead quietly, we should put the burden on the Arab and Islamic murderers who are responsible for the current state of affairs. That's not something to apologize for -- it is common sense and necessity. Could not agree more. :)

[soral]

Originally posted by humus_sapiens

BTW, thanks to UK/GB for giving away 78% of Pal. Mandate to Jordan in 1921 (still Judenfrei), shutting down the immigration to Eretz Israel before and during the Holocaust, and breaking every single promise they made to the Jews. [/B]

I am British and I just have to say that you are quite right. However, I believe that 75% of the Mandate went to Trans-Jordan, the other 3% was the Golan Heights to French controlled Syria.

[reason]

I agree Medi, terrorists are sub-human.

Lets dig up the grave of Brauch Goldestein, strap explosives around his waist, fly him over Telaviv, explode him in mid-air, collect his remains in Pig-skins and then put him back in his hell hole.We should also deport his family, or excute them, confiscate their lands and give them to the families of his victims.


All this sounds a tad overkill, dont you think?

[Evgeny]

Rodina, Partia Klunimcya

Za Rodina

long live the Sovie... i mean Israel

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by reason
I agree Medi, terrorists are sub-human.

Lets dig up the grave of Brauch Goldestein, strap explosives around his waist, fly him over Telaviv, explode him in mid-air, collect his remains in Pig-skins and then put him back in his hell hole.We should also deport his family, or excute them, confiscate their lands and give them to the families of his victims.


All this sounds a tad overkill, dont you think?


I don't even know what you're referring to.

[humus_sapiens]

Originally posted by Mediocrates
I don't even know what you're referring to.

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
Baruch Goldstein was a Brooklyn-born Jewish Fundamentalist living in Israel. He killed some 29 Muslims at Sabbath prayer on Friday, February 25, 1994, in the Cave of the Patriarchs, a Hebron site holy both to Muslims and Jews.
...
Most Israelis were repulsed by this action, and Israelis lobbied their representatives to take some action against this glorification of his actions. In 1998, a bill was passed in the Israeli Knesset that forbade the erection of monuments to terrorists; in 2000 a small shrine built around Goldstein's tomb was demolished.

reason,
Any terrorism (premeditated targeting of non-combatants) is despicable. You will find very little support of terrorism, if any, by the Jews. Goldstein is an exception, not the rule. And he went against the government policies. As any nation, we have our loonies and criminals. Sorry to disappoint you if you expected all of the Jews to be angels.

Let's see what you have to say regarding the PA Arabs whose support of Intifada == terrorism is 81%. Whose totalitarian regime policies are perpetrating mass murder as a political means, extra-judicial killings, and incitement of hatred from infant age.

http://www.jmcc.org/publicpoll/pop/02/dec/pop11.htm#one

[Mediocrates]

oh yes I understood that I just don't what s/he is referring to me when they talk to me...maybe I have multiple personalities but I don't recall recommending anything close to what was described...Goldstein was a deranged man who has been embraced by the most extreme elements of the remnants of Gush Emunim. People can clap and cheer and the people who hate all Israelis and Jews in general can point to it and pretend to cower about the impending Jewhad but that's just nonsense.

[richcrassus]

I recken goldstein did the right thing, jews have been passive and scared of defending themselves for 3000 years, its time we stop being the victims for all eternity and take the future into our own hands. Violence is the only think our enemies undestand and violence is what they should get, X1000.

[Evgeny]

yes you must all be good jews and kill as many muslim children as possible. After all thats all they understand. Get real. Goldstien is burning in hell fire as we speak along with all the other murderers.

[machiavelli]

The building of a more resilient economy and one less dependent on Arab workers would go down well.
Secondly,the building of a wall,would also assist in the protetion of Israel from armed extremists and terrorists.
If Sharon is to be critisized,it is that he as with so many has refused to accept that a stable Israel,must involve a focus on the economy.
Economic mismanagement cannot be accepted as being acceptable behaviour,nor should it continue as a disguise because of the problems with the Arabs.
Like everything in life,if we stick to the fundamentals,then the process eventually sorts itself out.
We only run into problems when we try to look for short cuts!!

[richcrassus]

So would shipping in labour from ethiopia or some other poor non muslim country in africa be cheaper than letting some pals in and doing work?

[machiavelli]

Originally posted by richcrassus
So would shipping in labour from ethiopia or some other poor non muslim country in africa be cheaper than letting some pals in and doing work?



Actually,the best way for Israel to avoid the issue of dependent labour problems would be to bring mostly Asian workers,such as the Phillipines,and such countries.
Certainly the cost factor would be more of a nuisance ,but in terms of long term security,it would be an advantage.
Hey,maybe import Australians as well...

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by richcrassus
So would shipping in labour from ethiopia or some other poor non muslim country in africa be cheaper than letting some pals in and doing work?

Befire Jihadtifada 2.0 there are were upwards of 250,000 day workers both legal an illegal in Israel. That number was reduced to about 15,000 legal workers. The remainder was picked up by imported Thai and Africa labor.

As with any guest worker policy they have to deal with illegals who outstay their visas. In a socialist country where almost all services are delivered by the State this is significant since it exposes the illegals to poor treatment and no access to services like health care.

Just yesterday Sharon's government announced they would issue an additional 25,000 work permits as a good will gesture.

The wider issue is I think to get more Israelis involved in the economy. It would be better for all in the long run if Israelis did those jobs and got off the dole. It would also be less tempting for employers to abuse their guest workers. It would also reduce their reliance on cross border labor. If Union labor is too expensive perhaps it's time to reexamine the structure of unions as well.

[reason]

Originally posted by richcrassus
I recken goldstein did the right thing, jews have been passive and scared of defending themselves for 3000 years, its time we stop being the victims for all eternity and take the future into our own hands. Violence is the only think our enemies undestand and violence is what they should get, X1000.

Rich,

You are a despicable human being, killing innocent people, is not justifiable under any circumstances. You are not any better than the PA or the terrorists you support.

[reason]

Originally posted by humus_sapiens
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein


reason,
Any terrorism (premeditated targeting of non-combatants) is despicable. You will find very little support of terrorism, if any, by the Jews. Goldstein is an exception, not the rule. And he went against the government policies. As any nation, we have our loonies and criminals. Sorry to disappoint you if you expected all of the Jews to be angels.

Let's see what you have to say regarding the PA Arabs whose support of Intifada == terrorism is 81%. Whose totalitarian regime policies are perpetrating mass murder as a political means, extra-judicial killings, and incitement of hatred from infant age.

http://www.jmcc.org/publicpoll/pop/02/dec/pop11.htm#one

I dont care for or about the PA. If 81% support terrorism then , they are wrong. I was just pointing out that blowing terrorist over cities (Tel-aviv or Gaza), and killing their families, or deporting them, is unacceptable.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by reason
I dont care for or about the PA. If 81% support terrorism then , they are wrong. I was just pointing out that blowing terrorist over cities (Tel-aviv or Gaza), and killing their families, or deporting them, is unacceptable.
But that does not address the issue that lies at the root of the question. If 81% of the Palestinians support the actions of the terrorists, some even willingly offering their own children for the cause, how can the problem ever find a solution?

[reason]

Originally posted by JustPat
But that does not address the issue that lies at the root of the question. If 81% of the Palestinians support the actions of the terrorists, some even willingly offering their own children for the cause, how can the problem ever find a solution?

I would be lying if I said I had a solution. But if exploding people over cities is the solution to a problem, then maybe the problem is better left without a solution, because the solution will be a bigger problem than the problem its trying to solve.

[machiavelli]

Originally posted by Mediocrates


The wider issue is I think to get more Israelis involved in the economy. It would be better for all in the long run if Israelis did those jobs and got off the dole.


I agree with this completely.
Israel forgets and some with Israel,who should know better,that the survival of a nation is also based beyond the military.
Economic strength is just as powerful a vehicle than any tank or weapon.
Economic reforms and taxation changes are much needed in Israel,and people have to understand that there is no free lunch in this world.
This applies,irrespective of race,religion,creed.
To focus on the war,and to misunderstand that economic reform, is the best vehicle to assist Israel in the future,is in fact WRONG.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by reason
I would be lying if I said I had a solution. But if exploding people over cities is the solution to a problem, then maybe the problem is better left without a solution, because the solution will be a bigger problem than the problem its trying to solve.
If you have no solution to offer and are not happy with the solutions of others, is the situation hopeless? I believe there is a solution, but not one that will be easily implemented. I will admit that my heritage and my theology make me biased toward Israel, but neither of those impact the solution I would propose. To me, there must be a radical change in the Palestinian philospohy and policy. Until there is a change of heart there can be no change of mind or mode of operation. I would propose a complete change in leadership, and I do mean complete. From there I would see negotiations with Israel as the next step. If no leaders can be found who are willing to do this I would leave three options:
1) voluntarily place all disputed lands under Israeli administration.
2) all those unwilling to live under Israeli rule would be given 7 days to relocate to another country.
3) If items one 1 and 2 are considered totally unacceptable, the world backs off and allows all out war, and to the victor go the spoils. This is a last resort.

Will this happen? NO We will watch the same two-step for who knows how long until the next war is born and Item 3 becomes the plan for peace by default.

[reason]

Originally posted by JustPat
If you have no solution to offer and are not happy with the solutions of others, is the situation hopeless? I believe there is a solution, but not one that will be easily implemented. I will admit that my heritage and my theology make me biased toward Israel, but neither of those impact the solution I would propose. To me, there must be a radical change in the Palestinian philospohy and policy. Until there is a change of heart there can be no change of mind or mode of operation. I would propose a complete change in leadership, and I do mean complete. From there I would see negotiations with Israel as the next step. If no leaders can be found who are willing to do this I would leave three options:
1) voluntarily place all disputed lands under Israeli administration.
2) all those unwilling to live under Israeli rule would be given 7 days to relocate to another country.
3) If items one 1 and 2 are considered totally unacceptable, the world backs off and allows all out war, and to the victor go the spoils. This is a last resort.

Will this happen? NO We will watch the same two-step for who knows how long until the next war is born and Item 3 becomes the plan for peace by default.

I have no problem with Israel annexing the West bank and Gaza, if the Palestinians were given full rights as citizens of Israel. The only problem I can foresee with this, is that the Jews will be a minority in Israel, which is unacceptable to a lot of Jews.

[Mediocrates]

In the Elon plan the Palestinians get to live where they live now but get to participate in the political life and future of Jordan. At an infrastructure level clearly it means sharing the development of an infrastructure but if you think about it for a moment it's not all that unworkable. Both sides are protected from one another.