Police arrests two extremists who staged execution of Ariel Sharon

[sharonbn]

Israeli police arrested today (March 17th) two youngsters, aged 17, who staged the execution of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon during a “festival” held in memory of the murderer Baruch Goldstein near his grave in Kiryat Arba. One of the arrested wore a mask in the image of Sharon’s face. The other held a gun to his head and a knife to his throat. The two wore T-shirts with the captions “Arik Sharon the traitor will be killed soon” and “We got Rabin, We’ll get Elyakim Rubinstein” (Rubinstein is the attorney general and government’s judicial advisor) an image of Yithak Rabin was treated in a similar manner. The Police stated that the two are suspected for incitement to violence and mutiny.

The festival in memory of Baruch Goldstein was held for the ninth consecutive year. Around 100 activists of the extreme right political movement Kach participated this year. IDF declared the burial place a sealed military zone which means no civilians are allowed to enter. Large police and army forces were present to keep the order and oversee the military order. The participants gathered at the entrance to the burial place, waved Israeli flags, sang songs and chanted slogans.

[soral]

Rabin was shot because he was a traitor, more concerned with looking good infront of the UN than doing what is right for Israel.

Sharon is a weak leader, he allows Jews to die because he to to cowardly to stand up to the world and do what is right.

It is time to transfer the hostile arabs to one of the 50+ muslim nation or elsewhere in the 99% of the middle east held be muslims, such as Saudi - where Jews are forbidden to live btw

Whilst I can not support the killing of a Jew, I can understand why people are driven to such extremes.

Finally, Baruch Goldstein was a true Jewish hero.

[Evgeny]

Wasnt Goldstein that docter out of brooklyn who shot all those muslim children? If so then you got some odd hero's Soral. transfering was also the term hitler used to "relocate" die Juden. also what is the penalty for mutiny or treason in Israel.

[Evgeny]

Is die Juden, der Juden, or das Juden.? my Duetsch is pretty crappy.

[Adversary2Arabs]

First of all I personally do not believe Ariel Sharon will give away any land. If he ever does, I wound NEVER codone the murder of a Jew, or righteous non-Jew or that matter, but he would be giving land that does not belong to him - it belong to the citizens of Israel, the Jewish People, and Hashem - alone.

[Am Yisrael]

Originally posted by Evgeny
Wasnt Goldstein that docter out of brooklyn who shot all those muslim children? If so then you got some odd hero's Soral. transfering was also the term hitler used to "relocate" die Juden. also what is the penalty for mutiny or treason in Israel.

Baruch Goldstien was a man who wanted to show Palestinians what its like to face the terror they make Israelis face. He literaly gave Palestinians a taste of their own medicine. I dont condone his actions, but his actions did change the perspective of the conflict for me. Anyway if Baruch Goldstein is Sorals hero let it be so. The Arab "martyrs" are treated as Gods by Palestinians after they are dead. Oh and by the way.. Hitler used the term "annihaltion" not "transfering".

[sharonbn]

I don't believe how people can say "I don't condone Goldstien's action but I understand it."
Baruch Goldstien is a terrorist and mass murderer. human beings with sound mind cannot comprehend the twisted sick mind inside that beast that drove it to inflict such immense suffering.

Consider your reaction when an Arab says "I don't condone suicide bombing but I understand it."

Baruch Goldstien is no diferent than the Palestinian who self exploded in Tel Aviv pub last week. He is no different than any other terrorist who kill innocent human beings for no reason other than pure hate and pure evil.

There could be no reason for such an action, no excuse.

Baruch Goldstien excluded himself from humanity by his actions. If there is heaven and hell, I hope the soul of Baruch Goldstien is being tormented for eternity, along with his fellow Palestinian terrorists.

[Am Yisrael]

Originally posted by sharonbn
[B]I don't believe how people can say "I don't condone Goldstien's action but I understand it."

I never said that I understand Baruch Goldstien. I said that it has changed the perspective of the conflict for me and many people. I agree that he is a terrorist and a murderer and he should have never gone out in the first place to do what he did.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by soral
Rabin was shot because he was a traitor, more concerned with looking good infront of the UN than doing what is right for Israel.
To believe this you have to ignore anything the man ever wrote or said. He had come to believe that bloodshed ws no longer the answer and that peace could be negotiated. Unlike his military accomplishments, he underestimated his enemy and got fragged for it. Unfortunately for Israel, they lost a great leader, a hero. Sad is the commentary when people resort to assasination instead of the freedom that we share in being able to vote out those whose leadership we do not agree with. I think Rabin was wrong to trust the Pals. He apparently was wrong to trust some of his countrymen as well.

[Adversary2Arabs]

Originally posted by JustPat
To believe this you have to ignore anything the man ever wrote or said. He had come to believe that bloodshed ws no longer the answer and that peace could be negotiated. Unlike his military accomplishments, he underestimated his enemy and got fragged for it. Unfortunately for Israel, they lost a great leader, a hero. Sad is the commentary when people resort to assasination instead of the freedom that we share in being able to vote out those whose leadership we do not agree with. I think Rabin was wrong to trust the Pals. He apparently was wrong to trust some of his countrymen as well.

The only problem is, you can't vote out a Prime Minister 2 minutes before a deal like this. Plus, his assisted suicide of the State of Israel was irreversible as much as it is with real suicide.

[sharonbn]

Originally posted by Adversary2Arabs
The only problem is, you can't vote out a Prime Minister 2 minutes before a deal like this. Plus, his assisted suicide of the State of Israel was irreversible as much as it is with real suicide.

Rabin was voted into office in 1992 by one of the largest landslide victories in the history of Israeli elections.
His party, Labour, received 44 out of 120 Knesset seats. This means that in elections with some 20+ parties, one out of every 3 voters chose Labour.
No other party received such overwhelming public approval ever since.
Together with Meretz the Israeli left had 56 knesset seats, 5 seats short of absolute majority.
In comparison, the Likud party got 30 seats in these elections. "Thia" party, dominant ultra right party lead by Geula Cohen (they had 5 seats in '88 elections) - didn't pass the threshold percent and vanished from the political map altogether.

If there ever was an attempt to force minority opinion over the majority, if there ever was an undemocratic, anarchistic, nihilistic, brutal step - it was the assasination of Rabin, one of the most loved and honored leaders of the Israeli people.

[Evgeny]

im guessing Goldstein was not executed? but what is the crime for mutiny in Israel?

[Mediocrates]

He was a civilian committing a crime. He was killed at the scene of his crime by the mob. Please learn your facts before you make rhetorical statements.

[tandem]

regardless of rabin's impressive military career, he was a stupid politician who was under pressure from everyone to commit to peace that was shaky from the very beginning. because of him, many israelis believed for the first ever that yassir arafat "changed", that he is now a trustworthy friend and man of peace, and not some murderous terrorist (even though that's exactly what he was and always will be)

not that i'm trying to state the obvious, but look at where the peace process got the israelis. the security situation was never this bad in israel. as a result, the economy is in a deep recession, the worst one in israel's history. the oslo accords gave arafat exactly what he wanted all along: legitimacy. now that he is officially the "president" of palestine, he will be no longer be regarded as a terrorist by the west. the israelis can't kill him now, and arafat proves day after day that he can murder jews with impunity. arafat remains the obstacle to peace to this day. if the palestinians really want peace, they must get rid of him and his henchmen

[JustPat]

Originally posted by Adversary2Arabs
The only problem is, you can't vote out a Prime Minister 2 minutes before a deal like this. Plus, his assisted suicide of the State of Israel was irreversible as much as it is with real suicide.
Am I mistaken, or does Israel not have a ratification process for such agreements? Doesn't the Knesset and Cabinet have to sign off on them as well?

[JustPat]

Originally posted by tandem
regardless of rabin's impressive military career, he was a stupid politician who was under pressure from everyone to commit to peace that was shaky from the very beginning. because of him, many israelis believed for the first ever that yassir arafat "changed", that he is now a trustworthy friend and man of peace, and not some murderous terrorist (even though that's exactly what he was and always will be)

not that i'm trying to state the obvious, but look at where the peace process got the israelis. the security situation was never this bad in israel. as a result, the economy is in a deep recession, the worst one in israel's history. the oslo accords gave arafat exactly what he wanted all along: legitimacy. now that he is officially the "president" of palestine, he will be no longer be regarded as a terrorist by the west. the israelis can't kill him now, and arafat proves day after day that he can murder jews with impunity. arafat remains the obstacle to peace to this day. if the palestinians really want peace, they must get rid of him and his henchmen
But to that end, who would dare to stand up among the Palestinians and call for his ouster? Who would put their life on the line to remove him? Who could be found that would have the integrity to truly provide a path to peace? Perhaps this is the best example of the power of prayer and the reasoning behind King David's many prayers in the Psalms.

[Adversary2Arabs]

You can not make peace with an enemy who would rather die than have peace.