R Corrie Bulldoze Lying Photos

[Batman]

(just a few) Discrepencies* in Below Photos Circulated by the Arab Palestinian Propaganda Machine. These photos are on: palsolidarity.org site

SEE POST #3 BELOW FOR ALL 3 IMAGES THAT PROVE THE FORGERIES AND LIES

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www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach1.jpg
2
www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach2.jpg

1. Notice the view behind the 2 bulldozers is completely different.

2. Notice that the 2 bulldozers appear highly different especially the proportions of the first one's roof to the second, the colors too. Although the photo is taken from 2 very slightly different positions and at different times of the day the 2 bulldozers barely resemble each other.

3. top photo:Notice the red hues near the figure's feet to the right. If you zoom in you can see that HER IMAGE HAS BEEN INSERTED via computer programs over some previous background.

4. the position of the female (whoever she really is) proves that there was no way for this individual to be IN FRONT of the bulldozer.

Perhaps this woman jumped infront of the bulldozer??? What's going on here?


CONCLUSION: something is wrong with these 2 pictures. THEY DO NOT GO WITH EACH OTHER; SOMETHING MAKES NO SENSE....SEE THE 3RD PHOTO BELOW THAT DISCREDITS THE 2ND PHOTO.
Have they been doctored to try to frame Israel? Someone used any of the computer programs that create any number of eye deceiving tricks so as to FRAME Isreal for R.Corrie's accidental death.


ps: if the Jacket is on her in the photo below HOW can it be on the ground above-photo #2 HOURS LATER?

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www.palsolidarity.org/pictures/rach3.jpg

*More discrepencies on the same Propaganda site: (also the video: 'Sitting in front of tanks in Nablus' has been edited. Notice the cut points and inconsistent shadows!)

[humus_sapiens]

Gosh, they are lousy even at the only thing they do best: lies. What is amazing though, is how much credit do they get from news agencies and the world opinion.

[Batman]

FORGERY- POSTS #1 , #5 and #8 DETAIL MORE DISCREPENCIES:

1. Notice the view behind the 2 bulldozers is completely different.

2. Notice that the 2 bulldozers appear highly different especially the proportions of the first one's roof to the second, the colors too. Although the photo is taken from 2 very slightly different positions and at different times of the day the 2 bulldozers barely resemble each other.

[redcake]

I agree something's wrong here... though I do think someone was killed by accident.... I think I'm missing the whole thing about the coat being on the ground in the third picture.... it looks lke it's on her body to me in all the pictures. In one of them there appears to be another coat on the ground, meaning there were two red coats. But picture number three sure looks like the jackets on her and that her hand is through the sleeve of it... am I missing something you're pointing out?

[Batman]

Originally posted by redcake
I agree something's wrong here... though I do think someone was killed by accident.... I think I'm missing the whole thing about the coat being on the ground in the third picture.... it looks lke it's on her body to me in all the pictures. In one of them there appears to be another coat on the ground, meaning there were two red coats. But picture number three sure looks like the jackets on her and that her hand is through the sleeve of it... am I missing something you're pointing out?

2 DIFFERENT BULLDOZERS
It's clear to see that the bulldozer in the 1st and 2nd pics is a totally different one.

2 DIFFERNET BACKGROUNDS ON THE HORIZONS
2 different bulldozers in 2 different locations at 2 differnet day times!

STRANGE FRIENDS
It's also VERY STRANGE, assuming that the 2 people knealing on the ground are seeing the body of rcorrie as THE RED MARKED AREA is supposed to indicate, that the 2 people seem very INACTIVE. The one who appears to be a woman is kneeling and the arm closer to the viewer isleaning on her on her hip, (posing?)
the second person in the bakc, appears to be a man, he is SITTING with his backpack on his back!

Now if a friend is buried under the earth would anyone in their right mind appear so tranquil and reserved? Shouldn't these 2 people be digging? Or are they posing for the camera?

SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS JACKET
Secondly, the red on the ground appears to be flat either painted on later by a computer program (it is another red altogether from the orange described in the papers and the one you can see on her) or is only her jacket on the ground, or another jacket that the group placed there for the pose......in either case it makes no sense because in the 3rd picture you can see that the jacket is ON HER, apparantly AFTER she was injured. HOW is it on the ground when her friend are near her and WHY do they seem so passive if she is so deep in the mud that you can only see the little bit of a jacket? Why are they not digging frantically or bending over much more???????
TIME OF THE DAY DOESN'T MATCH
Additionally, the time of the day appears much later in the 2nd photo than the first bulldozer photo. The sun seems to have already began setting in the 2nd photo. Yet the web sites that claim these photos claim it's a 15 minute difference. It seems like HOURS later.

Additionally, the shot showing her after the injury, the 3rd photo has much more daylight than the 2nd photo which is supposed to be BEFORE the 3rd photo.
PHOTOGRAPHER'S CREDIT RAISE SUSPICION
Additionally if you check for the photographers you can see that the 1st & 3rd photos were taken by named Joseph Smith.

and the 2nd photo (with the jacket? on the ground) was taken by
Richard Purssell who also served as 'eye witness.'

Since the 2nd photo has a different bulldozer, has a strangely posing friends with a cloth that's supposed to be rcorrie and the photographer served as 'eye witness' the question remains........if Joseph Smith took the 1 and 3 photos why did he not take the 2nd photo too?

[Batman]

see more:WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO RACHEL CORRIE (http://www.btnhboard.com/~scrub/corrie.htm)
below is a portion of what they write:

CONFLICTING STORIES



For such a clear case of murder as the ISM is presenting it, their seems to be a lot of confusion over how Rachel Corrie died. Here are several conflicting accounts of how she died:



"She was sitting in the path of the bulldozer. The bulldozer saw her and ran over her. She ended up completely underneath it," fellow activist Joseph Smith told AFP. (AFP)



"Rachel had been staying in Palestinian homes threatened with illegal demolition, and today Rachel was standing with other non-violent international activists in front of a home scheduled for illegal demolition. According to witnesses, Rachel was run over twice by the Israeli military bulldozer in its process of demolishing the Palestinian home. Witnesses say that Rachel was clearly visible to the bulldozer driver, and was doing nothing to provoke an attack." (ISM Press release)



According to the ISM activist, Corrie was wearing a bright jacket and climbed onto the bulldozer shovel-plow and began shouting at the driver. "There's no way he didn't see her, since she was practically looking into the cabin. At one stage, he turned around toward the building. The bulldozer kept moving, and she slipped and fell off the plow. But the bulldozer kept moving, the shovel above her. I guess it was about 10 or 15 meters that it dragged her and for some reason didn't stop. We shouted like crazy to the driver through loudspeakers that he should stop, but he just kept going and didn't lift the shovel. Then it stopped and backed up. We ran to Rachel. She was still breathing." (HaAretz)



From ISM Media Coordinator Michael Shaikh in Beit Sahour:

"The confrontation between the ISM and the Israeli Army had been under way for two hours when Rachel was run over. Rachel and the other activists had clearly identified themselves as unarmed international peace activists throughout the confrontation. he Israeli Army are attempting to dishonour her memory by claiming that Rachel was killed accidentally when she ran in front of the bulldozer. Eye-witnesses to the murder insist that this is totally untrue. Rachel was sitting in the path of the bulldozer as it advanced towards her. When the bulldozer refused to stop or turn aside she climbed up onto the mound of dirt and rubble being gathered in front of it wearing a fluorescent jacket to look directly at the driver who kept on advancing. The bulldozer continued to advance so that she was pulled under the pile of dirt and rubble. After she had disappeared from view the driver kept advancing until the bulldozer was completely on top of her. The driver did not lift the bulldozer blade and so she was crushed beneath it. Then the driver backed off and the seven other ISM activists taking part in the action rushed to dig out her body. An ambulance rushed her to A-Najar hospital where she died." (ISM Press release)



So let’s get this straight. She was “clearly visible” to the bulldozer driver, although she was “sitting”, and at the same time “slipped and fell off the plow”. The ISM Media Coordinater says that eyewitnesses say that it is not true that she was sitting in front of the bulldozer, although Joseph Smith, an eyewitness, said she was. Joseph (or Joe) Smith later expanded on the story:



"[S]he was sitting on a mound of earth in front of the bulldozer. The earth started to move under her when the bulldozer digs in. You have a couple of options you can roll aside-you have to be very quick to get out of the way. You can fall back, but she leaned forward to try to climb up on top. She got pulled down, and the bulldozer lost sight of her. Then, without lifting the blade, he reversed and she was underneath the blade".



Smith, an eyewitness to Rachel’s death, seems to portray it as some sort of accident, while the ISM, officially, calls it a “murder”. Why? Does their hatred of Israel seem to run so deep that they are willing to negate the testimony of an eyewitness for their own purposes? Or is it a misunderstanding? A look into the history of Rachel Corrie and the ISM certainly leaves one to choose the former.



One of the possible reasons she was run over was because a false sense of security. Joseph Smith described it in a Jerusalem Post article:



Smith, originally of Kansas City, Missouri, .... said the fact that the IDF had previously taken pains not to hurt the group made him feel safe. It is precisely because the group has so much experience playing a game of chicken with the bulldozers that it understands this was not an accident.

Many members have stood in front of a bulldozer as Corrie did and then climbed up the mound of dirt, precisely so that the driver could see them. "You look into their eyes and they stop," Smith said.

[eyl]

The red seems to be a time display. Has anyone been able to make out what time it shows?

Originally posted by Batman
3. top photo:Notice the red hues near the figure's feet to the right. If you zoom in you can see that HER IMAGE HAS BEEN INSERTED via computer programs over some previous background.

[Batman]

Originally posted by eyl
The red seems to be a time display. Has anyone been able to make out what time it shows?

YOUR POINT JUST RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CASTS DOUBT ON THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE PHOTOS AND THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM TO BLAME ISRAEL

If the photo has a time display then why does Smith (the photographer) not use the time displayed but claims 'between 2-4"?

"Smith says that the photo of Corrie "standing with megaphone"
is ascribed to the time period 2pm-4pm. In addition, during this period, Smith notes that the bulldozer "always stopped in time to avoid injuring them."

At the time of Corrie's death (5pm), Smith describes Corrie as "sitting, with arms waving" (no megaphone), and another colleague holding the megaphone from a distance."



AT BEST, these photos are misused to DECEIVE THE PUBLIC who is led to think that she was standing when the accident occured. BUT SHE WAS SITTING WITHOUT A MEGAPHONE!!!

HOWEVER, there is still many UNEXPLAINED POINTS DISCUSSED HERE which cast doubt about the authenticity of the photos.

Originally posted by eyl
Has anyone been able to make out what time it shows?

Hard to see accurately, but there are 5 digits with spaces after the first 2 & after the 3rd with the number 6 and 3 and 6 appearing more clearly amongst the 5 digits.

IF there is a time display on photo #1, then WHY is there NO TIME DISPLAY on photo # 3 by the same photographer??

Everything here does not add up to authenticity.

[Batman]

"Huge Discrepancies in the Rachel Corrie Story" (http://chronwatch.com/editorial/contentDisplay.asp?aid=2156)
Posted by Dr. Steven Plaut
Friday, April 04, 2003


This view of the Rachel Corrie bulldozer incident is written by Judy Lash Balint, and appeared on her website, Jerusalem Diaries. She provides an insight on the organization sponsoring Corrie's activities, the International Solidarity Movement, that ChronWatch had not seen. Also, she notes huge discrepancies in the different versions of the story being reported.

The news that a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist, Shadi Sukiya, was captured by an elite anti-terror unit of the Israel Defense Forces while hiding out in the Jenin offices of the International Solidarity Movement (ISM) did not make a ripple in the flood of coverage from the Iraqi front last week.

Just eleven days earlier, the ISM did make world headlines when Rachel Corrie, a 23-year-old ISM member, was run over by an Israeli bulldozer in Rafah and died of her injuries.

Maybe the fact that a peace organization was found defending terrorists twice in a two-week period will factor into the inquiry called by several Washington state congressional representatives into the circumstances of Rachel Corrie's death. But don't be surprised if the revelation that two Kalashnikovs and a handgun were found along with a terrorist in the Jenin ISM office will hardly feature in the search for the truth about Rachel Corrie.

Only one thing is certain about the circumstances surrounding the death of International Solidarity Movement (ISM) protestor Rachel Corrie: she died in Rafah, on the southern edge of the Gaza Strip.

But is Israel responsible for her death, or do the doctors at the Arab hospital where she was taken still alive after the accident bear any responsibility? What about the ISM that organizes protests in a closed military zone and harbors known terrorists in their field offices? How she died, exactly where she passed her last moments and who should take the blame for Rachel Corrie's death are questions that demand answers.

The congressional inquiry called for by Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA) will have to sort it all out, but the inconsistencies in the eyewitness testimonies raise doubts about the simplistic conclusions already being drawn.

By all accounts, Rachel Corrie was one of a group of protestors attempting to disrupt the work of two IDF bulldozers leveling ground to detonate explosives in an area rife with terrorist activity. The bulldozers moved to a different area to avoid the protestors, and Corrie became separated from the group. Some of the agitators stood with a banner, while Corrie picked up a bullhorn and yelled slogans at the driver encased in the small cabin of the dozer. This went on for several hours on the afternoon of March 16. It's the kind of activity favored by the young pro-Palestinian types who make up the ISM.

There wasn't enough action for Corrie. According to a fellow Evergreen State College student, Joseph Smith, 21, who was at the site, Corrie dropped her bullhorn and sat down in front of one of the bulldozers. She fully expected that the driver would stop just in front of her. ''We were horribly surprised,'' Smith told me by phone from Rafah the day after the incident. 'They had been careful not to hurt us. They'd always stopped before,'' he said.

As the dozer plowed forward heaping up a pile of dirt and sand, Corrie scrambled up the pile to sit on the top. Smith says she lost her footing as the bulldozer made the earth move beneath her feet. She got pulled down, he says. ''The driver lost sight of her and continued forward. Then, without lifting the blade he reversed and Rachel was underneath the mid-section of the dozer; she wasn't run over by the tread.''

Capt. Jacob Dellal of the IDF spokespersons office confirms what Smith says about the driver: he lost sight of Rachel. Inside the cab some 6' off the ground, visibility is very restricted. The protestors should have known that and kept within the driver's line of sight to avoid getting hurt, Dellal asserts.

The strange thing about this part of the story is the discrepancy over the photos given to the press and posted on several pro-Arab websites.

As Smith describes to me his version of events, I ask about the series of photos printed in an Arab newspaper I picked up the morning after the incident, in Jerusalem's Old City. ''They aren't of the actual incident,'' he states firmly. ''We'd been there for three hours already, we were tired, we already had a lot of pictures.''

Yet these are the pictures used on the ISM website,
http://www.palsolidarity.org to document the before and after of Rachel's interaction with the bulldozer. The same pictures are featured as a photo-essay on the site of Electronic Intifada, where they're even attributed to Joseph Smith.

There are several shots of the back of a woman with a blond ponytail facing a bulldozer. She's standing in an open field, wearing an orange fluorescent jacket, holding a megaphone.

Even Michael Shaik, the ISM media coordinator, won't confirm that these are pictures of Corrie taken the day she died. ''I'm fairly sure they're of the incident,'' he tells me by phone from his Bethlehem office. In the same conversation, Shaikh asks me not to contact Joe, Greg, or Tom, the Rafah ISM eyewitnesses again directly: ''They're still in trauma.''

The pictures should have raised all kinds of questions to photo editors, but all the major newspapers and wire services chose to run the photos regardless. If there are pictures of Rachel before and after, why didn't the same photographer consider it important to document the act of the bulldozer running her down?

Where is the mound of earth Rachel clambered up and was buried in? The woman shown lying bleeding from her nose and mouth is lying on a flat piece of ground, and she's not covered in sand.

So, Corrie was either knocked down by the dozer, or fell in front of it. ISMers assume that she was intentionally run over, but there's no proof that was the driver's intent.

The real issue is was Rachel alive when she was taken by Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance to Martyr Mohammed Yousef An Najar Hospital? In other words, where did she die? Were adequate efforts made to save her in the hospital?

Again, there are conflicting stories. Joseph Smith tells me in a telephone interview the day after the tragedy, ''She died in the hospital or on the way to the hospital.'' CNN also reported that Rachel died there.

In his account posted on www.arabia.com, ISMer Tom Dale has a slightly different story. On March 17 he writes: ''I ran for an ambulance, she was gasping and her face was covered in blood from a gash cutting her face from lip to cheek. She was showing signs of brain hemorrhaging. She died in the ambulance a few minutes later of massive internal injuries.''

But Dr. Ali Mussa, director of Martyr Mohammed Yousef An Najar Hospital where Corrie was taken isn't so clear. On the day of the event, Dr. Mussa tells AP Gaza reporter Ibrahim Barzak that Rachel died in the hospital.

One week later, in a telephone interview with me, Dr. Mussa states definitively that Rachel died at the scene, ''in the soil,'' as he puts it. The main cause of death was suffocation, Mussa asserts. There were no signs of life, no heartbeat or pulse when she arrived at the hospital, he says. Mussa states that Rachel's ribs were fractured, a fact determined by X-rays. (Is it normal procedure to X-ray a dead body?)

Doesn't quite jive with the photo essay on the pages of the Electronic Intifada website for March 16, 2003. http://electronicIntifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml

A caption under one photo of doctors leaning over a female patient reads: Rachel arrived in the Emergency Room at 5:05 p.m and doctors scrambled to save her. By 5:20 p.m, she was gone. Ha'aretz newspaper reported that Dr. Ali Mussa, a doctor at Al Najar, stated that the cause of death was skull and chest fractures. Dr. Mussa told me he was one of the treating physicians, yet he alone maintains that Rachel was dead before she was put into the ambulance.

To further complicate matters, on that same website, a report from the Palestine Monitor is cited. Here, the writer says that Rachel fractured her arms, legs, and skull. She was transferred to hospital, where she later died.

Just who is Dr. Ali Mussa? Clearly a man in favor with the Palestine Authority hierarchy. Dr. Mussa's views are aired on the official website of the PA's Ministry of Planning and International Cooperation: (January 27, 2003)

There, Dr. Mussa accuses Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's ''terrorist government'' of deliberately killing Palestinian children in Rafah.

A few days after the incident, ISM Media Coordinator Shaik tells me by phone from Rafah that three ISMers, Tom, Alice and Greg were in the ambulance with Rachel. She died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital, says Michael. But Greg Schnabel, 28, who is quoted in numerous wire service and newspaper stories, never says he witnessed the death of his comrade in the ambulance. In his account published a few days later on the ISM website, he carefully states that she died twenty minutes after arriving at the hospital.
CONTINUED............

[Batman]

What happened to Rachel's body after her death? Depends who you ask. Dr. Mussa says it was kept for 24 hours at the hospital before a Red Crescent ambulance transported it to the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, via the border where an Israeli ambulance took over. l Shaik says ''we lost track of it (her body) after she died.'' Three ISMers tried to escort the body, but only one was permitted on the ambulance on the Israeli side. According to his account, the ambulance drove straight to the Israeli Forensic Institute at Abu Kabir, where an autopsy was performed. The Israelis are trying to say she died from a blow to the head by a rock, Shaikh recounts.

Speaking about the autopsy, one of Rachel's ISM trainers, Iowa native LeAnne Clausen, a fieldworker for the Christian Peacemaker Team based in Beit Sahour, tells me: ''The general sentiment within ISM is that the Israelis are trying to suggest perhaps Rachel was on drugs.''

In reality, IDF spokesperson Dellal says that initial Israeli investigation results indicate that the cause of death was most likely a blow to the head and chest by a blunt object, possibly a chunk of cement dug up by the bulldozer.

In keeping with ISM sympathies, Rachel received a shaheed (martyr) procession in Rafah, the day after her death. But here again, there's confusion between reality and photo op. Some accounts noted that her coffin draped in an American flag was paraded through the streets. Yet a picture on the site of her college towns peace movement, the Olympia Movement for Justice and Peace shows Arab women holding a coffin covered by a Palestinian flag with the caption: Palestinian funeral for Rachel.

Confusion and obfuscation seem to be a trademark of the ISM. Last May, a number of ISMers raced past Israeli soldiers into the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, where dozens of Palestinian terrorists had holed up to evade capture by the IDF outside. After an agreement was reached, the ISM members refused to leave the church, holding up the solution. Then they charged that they were mistreated by clergy, who claimed the ISMers desecrated the church by smoking and drinking alcohol.

Another revealing ISM action took place shortly before the Bethlehem incident, when a number of protestors managed to make their way past IDF barricades into Yasser Arafat's Ramallah compound to protect the terrorist leader.

Last week's Rafah activity falls into the same category of ISM defense of Arab terrorists. IDF efforts in Rafah are concentrated on preventing the flow of arms and explosives over the border from Egypt into the terrorist's dens that riddle the area. Less than a week after Rachel died defending terrorists, Israeli tanks moved into Rafah, surrounded several houses, and arrested two Hamas members. IDF spokesperson, Dellal calls Rafah ''the most dangerous area in the West Bank and Gaza,'' and decries the provocative protests of ISM. ''There's nothing wrong with civil disobedience, but these people crossed the line of what was safe for everyone,'' Dellal says.

So, while the memorial services laud and remember Rachel Corrie as a peace activist murdered by Israeli occupation forces, the truth lies elsewhere.

An Israeli bulldozer injured Corrie as she tried to prevent it doing its job of protecting Israeli civilians, but she was alive when she was taken to An Najar Hospital, according to at least three eyewitnesses. Only Dr. Mussa, a man intent on accusing Israel of child killing, claims otherwise. None of Rachel's comrades have stated they were with her in the hospital when she died.

The Corrie episode in Rafah may end up being ranked with the murder of 12-year-old Muhammad al-Dura by Israeli forces in a firefight at nearby Netzarim in September 2000. Months after the event, the official IDF inquiry and a German TV report revealed that there was little doubt that al-Dura was hit by Palestinian fire. An independent French journalist, Gerard Huber, claims that the entire incident was fabricated for press consumption. (Contre-expertise dune mise en scene, Editions Raphael, Paris).

And all the while, the ISM continues to encourage misguided young people from around the world, like Rachel Corrie, to spend time in the Middle East providing cover for terrorists.

Bring on the inquiry.

[Blueprint]

Heh. Batman, that "What Really Happened to Rachel Corrie" was written by me! It's a small world. :)

[Batman]

Originally posted by Blueprint
Heh. Batman, that "What Really Happened to Rachel Corrie" was written by me! It's a small world. :)

wow, that's really cool!!! good to know you, and great job!!!

gotta keep the farce of the rcorrie forgeries and lies in the public eye cause everyone's gotta know this, especially after the baghdad lies people ought to know there is something really fishy about how she died and the photos' forgeries and disinformation. with the Arabs Palestinians being masters of the art of propaganda and deceit...........................which the EU loves to eat up and some people in the US too, even if it's a lie...........

I love your signature, very clever, did you make that up?

[Blueprint]

I just updated the page a little bit :)

http://www.btnhboard.com/~scrub/corrie.htm

[redcake]

Good job on this. I haven't checked the update but it would be great if it included the two "peace keeping" cohorts that got head/face injuries ... if we don't speak up on this, these events are going to be tossed around the propaganda mill for years to come.


edit: oops except is seems as if the pics on that page have vanished?

[Blueprint]

You're not seeing the pictures on the page I posted? They show up for me.

The first guy who was 'shot' wasn't actually shot. Israeli soldiers fired warning shots near his feet and debris hit his face.

The second guy seems to have been deliberately targetted. The IDF has issued a report saying that he was armed and wearing army fatigues, but I believe this to be not true, juding from the picture below.

http://www.jewsagainsttheoccupation.org/hurndall2.jpg

[redcake]

no pics, at least on my end of things. i'm on a mac, so that might be the reason why. I was planning to link to for an argument i'm having on another message board....

looks like a lot of the sites are backtracking and changing the photo captions to say there were two different bulldozers at the scene. It just makes your page that much more usefull. thanks!!

[Mediocrates]

The pictures require a VML (Vector Rendering Graphics) component download which for some reason doesn't work correctly for Win95 (and maybe others).

[redcake]

Anyone know where I can find that letter she wrote to a school paper justifying suicide bombing ? I found it once before posted next to the photo of her with the school children...but now i'm not seeing it.

[andak01]

I looked at the photos. There were two bulldozers as stated in the article. And according to the article, the second photo was taken 45 minutes after the first. I can see the confusion, but the photos do not appear to have been fixed. She stood in front of the first bulldozer and 45 minutes later was run over after she had moved in front of the second. That's not her jacket on the ground. Her friends are hovering over her after she was mashed into the ground. The article states that the driver used the blade of the bulldozer, so technically she wasn't run over.

[Blueprint]

If you're reffering to the E-Intifadah article, it was changed from its original text later on after they realized it. If you're not, ok.

[Pharaoh]

Rachel Corey, 23 years old from the state of Washington, was killed while she was trying to prevent Israeli army bulldozers from destroying a Palestinian home. Other foreigners who were with her said the driver of the bulldozer was aware that Rachel was there, and continued to destroy the house. Initially he dropped sand and other heavy debris on her, then the bulldozer pushed her to the ground where it proceeded to drive over her, fracturing both of her arms, legs and skull. She was transferred to hospital, where she later died. Another peace activist was also injured in the attack and has been hospitalized - at this stage his nationality is unknown.
I will provide 4 photos describing the murder.
(unfortunatly i cant post more than 1 photo in the same post)
1st photo:Picture taken between 3:00-4:00PM, 16 March 2003, Rafah, Occupied Gaza. Rachel Corrie (L) and Nick (R) oppose the potential destruction of this home (to the west of the Doctor's home where Rachel was killed). In the instance pictured, the bulldozer did not stop and Rachel was pinned between the scooped earth and the fence behind her. On this occasion, the driver stopped before seriously injuring her. Photo by Joseph Smith (ISM Handout).

Edit:Humm seems i am facing some difficulties posting the image.

[Pharaoh]

Mediocrates i dont know why the picture wont appear.
Please advise.

[L@mplighterM]

Anyone stupid enough to put themselves in harms way deserves what they get. Do turtles deliver newspapers in Egypt? Seems to me that the story is at least four months old so why would you post it now? Did you see the accident happen?

[MichaelC]

Here in Washington opinion was, needless to say, divided concerning this women at the time that she ignorantly inserted herself into a situation about which she had little actual understanding.

For some days the topic was a hot-button issue on local talk radio and it certainly was my impression at the time, having listened intently to see how the issue was handled, that the majority of those who called to offer commentary considered Corrie a naive radical who didn't have the sense to look before she leaped.

This topic has been hammered to death here at the forum and I doubt anyone wants to rehash the post-pubescent guerilla fantasies of people like this who enjoy raising hell and spouting drivel into the faces of wiser people until they get squashed.

The only business she had in the ME was causing trouble and, as the wise American humorist Will Rogers once said, "A person who gets in trouble a thousand miles away from home is pretty much looking for it."

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by Pharaoh
Mediocrates i dont know why the picture wont appear.
Please advise.


You could read the rules of the road here at any rate I'll probably delete it if it does post. You seem to think I'm you're servant; I'm not.

[Mediocrates]

Rachel Corrine was an angry disturbed zingnut who committed suicide by cop. Good Riddance. Tell all your friends I said so.

[minusthejihad]

Bulldozer...... I hope you are alright now. We were so worried about you.

[tandem]

while her death is regrettable (and the fact that she just happens to be an american has nothing to do it AFAIC), she was looking for trouble and she found some. it's that simple

as for the international soliderity movement, the bunch of tossers who send their members out there to create problems, they're just a bunch of stupid liberal fanatics looking for attention. apparently they think their western passports will protect them from prosecution (since what they are doing is technically illegal, operating in many closed off military areas). if it were up to me i'd deport all of them

[porcupine]

Click on the "Search" button in the upper-right corner and put "Rachel Corrie" in Search.

You'll see many threads on the subject and many pictures already posted.

[eyl]

As you're a new poster here, a word of advice. When you want to bring up something that happened several months ago (or longer), use the board's Search function to see if it there is already a thread on the subject.

I'll give you a helping hand on this one; we've already discussed this topic at length so some threads to get you started:

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=2615

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=2597


Originally posted by Pharaoh
Rachel Corey, 23 years old from the state of Washington, was killed while she was trying to prevent Israeli army bulldozers from destroying a Palestinian home. Other foreigners who were with her said the driver of the bulldozer was aware that Rachel was there, and continued to destroy the house. Initially he dropped sand and other heavy debris on her, then the bulldozer pushed her to the ground where it proceeded to drive over her, fracturing both of her arms, legs and skull. She was transferred to hospital, where she later died. Another peace activist was also injured in the attack and has been hospitalized - at this stage his nationality is unknown.
I will provide 4 photos describing the murder.
(unfortunatly i cant post more than 1 photo in the same post)
1st photo:Picture taken between 3:00-4:00PM, 16 March 2003, Rafah, Occupied Gaza. Rachel Corrie (L) and Nick (R) oppose the potential destruction of this home (to the west of the Doctor's home where Rachel was killed). In the instance pictured, the bulldozer did not stop and Rachel was pinned between the scooped earth and the fence behind her. On this occasion, the driver stopped before seriously injuring her. Photo by Joseph Smith (ISM Handout).

Edit:Humm seems i am facing some difficulties posting the image.

[NewsGuy]

Threads merged by admin.

[Pharaoh]

Eyl,

"As you're a new poster here, a word of advice. When you want to bring up something that happened several months ago (or longer), use the board's Search function to see if it there is already a thread on the subject."

Ok will do.

Newsguy,

"Threads merged by admin."

Oh an explaination at last.
Seems that Mediocrates didnt even bother to mention that.
It also seems to me that he is a modirator for only some people while he dont care about his behaviour to others.
I hope that change.

Mediocrates,

"You could read the rules of the road here at any rate I'll probably delete it if it does post. You seem to think I'm you're servant; I'm not."

Regarding the image issue,i read the F.A.Q and i got the dea about how to post the image.
While the picture was a jpg file and i did make sure i attached it correctly it simply didnt appear,thats why i needed your help.
But you took it somehow personaly and thought that i was commanding you or something!
Who said that your my servant??You not me.
And thanks for nothing.

"Rachel Corrine was an angry disturbed zingnut who committed suicide by cop. Good Riddance. Tell all your friends I said so."

Yeah tell MichaelC and to all americans who post here.

MichealC,

"The only business she had in the ME was causing trouble and, as the wise American humorist Will Rogers once said, "A person who gets in trouble a thousand miles away from home is pretty much looking for it."

Yeah well if you do agree with this quote then i think the whole war on Iraq is causing trouble and "pretty much looking for it"

[D.Abraham]

Michael C., I liked you quote by Mr. Rogers. funny and substantiated truth in light of the this threads metioned tragedy. To take that bit further, cannot any of us, including sometimes in the face of war and armies, admit that when we go a thousand miles a way to cause or roust trouble the outcome is not often too good.
P.S. how as my spelling and grammmmar on this post? ;)
Darin A.

[Batman]

Originally posted by Pharaoh
Mediocrates i dont know why the picture wont appear.
Please advise.

it takes 24 hours for photos to post

these images are well known. There are too many contradictions in the story, including the background of 2 different views and 2 different bulldozers which some ISM people say it was One bulldozer and other articles and ISM people say it was 2 bulldozers.

Don't believe everything you see, read, etc.

The bottom line is that accidents happen. Especially when there are so many tensions in the area. This is no different than a car accident. You can't expect a perfect score on the Israeli side.

IN general though, if you look at the record of Israel it has been very good regarding the well being of the various busy bodies who poke their noses where it is not their business, and who have nothing else to do but proove their importance by risking their lives in a war zone where armies and terrorists are at war, where helmets and bullet proof vests are the normal wear, and where houses are bomb factories, etc.

I cannot understand how you can feel justified in pointing fingers while if a Jew who enters Arab Palestinian areas he/she needs the protection of an entire army so as not to get lynched, torn to pieces, tortured and worse!

Perhaps if the ARabs stop hating Israel and Jews so much we can all have NO need for war or army protection or destruction.


PS: Why do you call yourself Pharaoh?