Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil

[Johnny Yuma]

.........And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly:
None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken:
Whose arrows are sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses’ hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind:
Their roaring shall be like a lion, they shall roar like young lions; yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry it away safe, and none shall deliver it.
And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

Isaiah

[Johnny Yuma]

We see them on our streets. We see them in the United Nations. We see them on the Forums...

[localbrew]

There will always be evil in this world. Being delusional in the 21st century is beyond me. Those who march and protest are clearly delusional.

[Johnny Yuma]

Originally posted by localbrew
There will always be evil in this world. Being delusional in the 21st century is beyond me. Those who march and protest are clearly delusional.

I try to remember this:

"A man who is not a liberal at sixteen has no heart. A man who is not a conservative at sixty has no head." Disraeli

Stilll... questions remain, about those who manipulate the young and the young at heart. There lies evil.

To call Hussein good, and Bush evil?

[localbrew]

At sixteen I was a conservative but then I never really liked my mother because .... My father was a republican. How they managed to live together for over 50 years I will never know. My young life was like living in the Grand Canyon with me at the bottom and Mom & Pop on either side.

I am almost sixty now and my views have not changed one bit. Doves are delusional.

[Johnny Yuma]

Originally posted by localbrew
At sixteen I was a conservative but then I never really liked my mother because .... My father was a republican. How they managed to live together for over 50 years I will never know. My young life was like living in the Grand Canyon with me at the bottom and Mom & Pop on either side.

I am almost sixty now and my views have not changed one bit. Doves are delusional.

Well I'm almost fifty and was extremely radical during Viet Nam. It took a long time, but I finally gave up my denial. I was a dupe. Plain and simple. Just a stupid naive kid, like so many of these.

I played right into the enemy's hand.

[Donna]

Originally posted by Johnny Yuma
Well I'm almost fifty and was extremely radical during Viet Nam. It took a long time, but I finally gave up my denial. I was a dupe. Plain and simple. Just a stupid naive kid, like so many of these.

I played right into the enemy's hand.


Playing into the enemy's hand is exactly what so many of the protesters are doing, especially when they don't even know who is footing the bill for the protest they're attending. I would hope they would be shocked at the truth, but something tells me that people who trust as a moral compass someone who makes a living playing "pretend" on the big screen, for exorbitant amounts of money, and lives far more extravagantly than the average person just aren't going to get it.

The same can be said of the partisan rhetoric and unfounded criticism that some in our government are spewing at every opportunity, only they can't blame it on youth. I think it's just a garden variety of jack-assery.

[euphoria]

Love those quotes. Good call, Johnny.

[Johnny Yuma]

Originally posted by Donna
The same can be said of the partisan rhetoric and unfounded criticism that some in our government are spewing at every opportunity, only they can't blame it on youth. I think it's just a garden variety of jack-assery.


Ummm. Yeah. They haven't started blaming it on the youth. Not yet, at least.

The opposition will begin to jump on the band wagon, one by one, and show support, as long as things go well. (Your basic opportunist awaiting a circumstance.) After it's all over, they will retroject their unwavering support. However, every American school child knows the "little red hen" moral, and the blow-back could be widespread.

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by Johnny Yuma
Well I'm almost fifty and was extremely radical during Viet Nam. It took a long time, but I finally gave up my denial. I was a dupe. Plain and simple. Just a stupid naive kid, like so many of these.

I played right into the enemy's hand.

My story is similar in some ways. I have first-hand experience of the dishonesty, fanaticism, and treachery rampant among the Left.

I was briefly attracted (during the Vietnam war) to that part of the Left I believed principled and intellectually honest: Trotskyists. The first thing I discovered was that many, many other Leftists hated Trotskyists more than they hated the alleged "oppressors."

The clincher for me was that these people are clearly not intellectually honest. Most of them are complete cynics. Many fundamental beliefs of the Left have been disproved by events over the past 30 years. Yet they ignore the facts and/or invent absurd excuses and keep on going.

The most recent incarnation of this is the incredible willingness of the Left - which by and large depicts Judaism and Christianity as mythology and worse - to not only look the other way regarding Islam but to cynically embrace some of its culture manifestations.

A great example is Rachel Corrie. She went to the Gaza Strip to defend terrorists. She "covered" as required by the Palestinian religious police (roving gangs of teenage boys). I have no doubt she believed, as many of her comrades no doubt believe, that Islam is some sort of "crutch" these people have latched onto out of desperation and will discard once they defeat the imperialist/colonialist/capitalist/Zionist forces. Many Iranian Leftists embraced a similar fantasy during the late 1970s - and paid with their lives.

The flipside is discovering that the people you were told were the "bad guys" are really the good guys. Though I rejected the Left, I did not immediately embrace the other side. I was exposed through work to the US military. What I encountered was totally unlike what I had expected. It did not take long to see that the Left is, in comparison, a morass of egomaniacs and backstabbers, while the US military is mainly composed of people who behave with the utmost politeness and honor. The thing that really stunned me, though, was discovering that military people are not the robot warriors I expected, but often very thoughtful individuals who are more willing to assume their detractors are well-intentioned than their detractors are willing to assume about them. Plus, the US military is probably the most integrated and tolerant organization on Earth (in terms of accepting people regardless of race or religion) - perhaps to a fault as was just discovered in Kuwait.