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MichaelC
03-25-2003, 11:34 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82088,00.html

Report: Shiites Rising Up Against Saddam

Tuesday, March 25, 2003
FOXNEWS

CAMP AS SAYLIYAH, Qatar — The Shiite majority in Basra have started a popular uprising against Saddam Hussein's forces, Sky News reported Tuesday.

Iraqi forces are reportedly firing at the Shiite protesters, who have the support of British troops in the area. British forces have captured the top Baath party official, a U.K. spokesman said. Earlier Tuesday, Air Force Major Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr. said the situation in Basra was fragile and that an uprising was possible.

At a press briefing at U.S. Central Command in Qatar, Reunart Jr. said a vast majority of the Shiites have been oppressed by Saddam's regime for years. "I think that they feel a threat to their security by these Baath party, special Republican Guard troops, that they're terrorizining their neighborhood," he said. British and U.S. forces wanted the people of Basra to attack soldiers loyal to Saddam, Reuters reported.

In an about-face, British forces said Tuesday they have decided to move against militia fighters who have prevented them from securing Basra, a city in southern Iraq and Iraq's second-largest city. Previously, coalition forces said they wanted to avoid urban combat there. The decision to declare parts of Basra "military targets" came after U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan warned of a humanitarian crisis in the city and said "urgent measures" had to be taken to restore electricity and water.

British forces have surrounded the city and secured its airport but have continued to face pockets of resistance, including members of Saddam's elite Fedayeen paramilitary force. On Monday there were artillery exchanges throughout the day.

Full article at FoxNews link posted above.

MichaelC
03-25-2003, 11:55 AM
It is currently being reported by Sky News, a British news source, that the uprising is being confirmed by British forces who are directly supporting the insurrection with artillery fire on fedayeen positions.

Basra is a city of 1.3 million and this particular fight may take a long time (or not), but news of it leaking out to Iraq at large will doubtlessly cause great concern for iraqi authorities.

Am Yisrael
03-25-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by MichaelC
[B]It is currently being reported by Sky News, a British news source, that the uprising is being confirmed by British forces who are directly supporting the insurrection with artillery fire on fedayeen positions.

Basra is a city of 1.3 million and this particular fight may take a long time (or not), but news of it leaking out to Iraq at large will doubtlessly cause great concern for iraqi authorities.

I think we will see much more uprising against Saddam in the near future. Basra is a major city for Saddams regime. I suspect Saddam will try to create a rift between Shiites and Sunni muslims to try and counter this rebellion.

Ralph63
03-25-2003, 12:10 PM
We have already seen so called phoney surrenders. Maybe this is a phoney uprising - in order to lure US/UK troops into the city? On the other hand: It might as well be true. Saddams is after all not the most popular guy amongst the Iraqi shiites. Neither are the Americans though.

MichaelC
03-25-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Ralph63
We have already seen so called phoney surrenders. Maybe this is a phoney uprising - in order to lure US/UK troops into the city? On the other hand: It might as well be true. Saddams is after all not the most popular guy amongst the Iraqi shiites. Neither are the Americans though. You certainly sound conflicted, Ralph. Everyone with a lick of sense understands that Iraq without saddam is better than Iraq with saddam.

The uprising is comfirmed by British military spokespeople, supported by British artillery on fedayeen positions.

It is also being reported that fedayeen are dressing in American uniforms, accepting the surrender of Iraqi regulars, and then gunning them down without mercy.

Argue it if you want, but it might serve you better to check out some of your own sources before attempting to discredit incoming data with mere opinion.

Ralph63
03-25-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by MichaelC
Argue it if you want, but it might serve you better to check out some of your own sources before attempting to discredit incoming data with mere opinion.
Being sceptical of incoming data seems to be the safest route - after all; its a war going on over there. ;) Anyway, lets hope this info is correct.

christian
03-26-2003, 03:12 AM
Ha ha

You don't get it. Don't you?

War is not about stealth aircraft, high tech gadget,etc
Your situation is already weaken. Your army is overconfident, so they don't even bother to study the civilian moods. Which violates the art of war. (know yourself and your enemy) Your army think they can liberate Iraq with some high tech machine.

The iraqi strategy is to prolong the war for infinite time(like the vietnam war), because it will wear you out financially and militarily. It is obvious the republican guard is hiding. They will attack you from the sand storm.

Eventhough, they will completely surrender in one month. Let you in the city this month. Which is a trap. Then, they start to shoot you another month.

You don't know who. You don't know when. This is the biggest violation in the art of war (sun tzu), I have ever seen. Unless, you will commit genocide, forcing them into concentration camps.

Enjoy guerilla warfare!

peacelover
03-26-2003, 06:29 AM
If there is a popular uprising, all I can say is the coalition forces better follow through their promise to the Iraqi people and not leave the rebels at the mercy of Saddam, as was reportedly the case in the first Gulf War.

MichaelC
03-26-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by christian
Ha ha

You don't get it. Don't you?

War is not about stealth aircraft, high tech gadget,etc
Your situation is already weaken. Your army is overconfident, so they don't even bother to study the civilian moods. Which violates the art of war. (know yourself and your enemy) Your army think they can liberate Iraq with some high tech machine.

The iraqi strategy is to prolong the war for infinite time(like the vietnam war), because it will wear you out financially and militarily. It is obvious the republican guard is hiding. They will attack you from the sand storm.

Eventhough, they will completely surrender in one month. Let you in the city this month. Which is a trap. Then, they start to shoot you another month.

You don't know who. You don't know when. This is the biggest violation in the art of war (sun tzu), I have ever seen. Unless, you will commit genocide, forcing them into concentration camps.

Enjoy guerilla warfare! I'll bet that you have no idea at all how many people laugh uproariously at your posts. They are just hilarious. Keep up the good work. A little humor helps to lighten the load.

I'll also bet that you didn't know what a comedian you are.