Arafat's Fatah militia dispatches suicide bombers to Iraq

[cerulean]

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Arafat's Fatah militia dispatches suicide bombers to Iraq
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Hundreds of Palestinians living in Lebanon have been sent to Iraq to carry out suicide attacks against American and British soldiers.

Colonel Munir Maqdah, one of the top commanders of the Fatah movement in Lebanon, said his men were already in Baghdad, prepared to launch suicide attacks. Another group of Fatah suicide bombers are due in Iraq shortly, he added.

Fatah, the largest faction of the PLO, has several thousand militiamen in Lebanon's Palestinian refugee camps. The group's leader is Yasser Arafat, who also holds the title of Chairman of the Palestinian Authority. Most of the Fatah gunmen continue to receive their salaries from the PLO. . . .

How pathetic it is for the Palestinians to be used once again for a useless mission like this one. The Palestinian suicide bombers' families are being paid by someone -- if it's the same as before, then it is Iraq and Saudi sources of funding.

Clearly, it would be ridiculous for the US to champion a Palestinian state if the leaders of that state are engaging their fighting men in battle against the US.

[Ralph63]

Originally posted by cerulean
How pathetic it is for the Palestinians to be used once again for a useless mission like this one.
I agree that blowing oneself to pieces doesnt exactly help much mending the peace together. :rolleyes:

But how likely is it that he nevertheless wants to do that other then for his own country/people? Travel to a foreign country during fullscale-war, with an even slimmer chance of success - and with little way of profing who's done what? I say: palestinians joining the Iraqi gerillawar - yes. Blowing themselves up anonymously in a foreign country during a fullscale-war? Not likely.

[Jerry]

Originally posted by cerulean
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Arafat's Fatah militia dispatches suicide bombers to Iraq
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH



How pathetic it is for the Palestinians to be used once again for a useless mission like this one. The Palestinian suicide bombers' families are being paid by someone -- if it's the same as before, then it is Iraq and Saudi sources of funding.

Clearly, it would be ridiculous for the US to champion a Palestinian state if the leaders of that state are engaging their fighting men in battle against the US. :o

The brave Palestinians will continue their gallant struiggle for freedom whenever and wherever they are called upon to do so, regardless of thge sneers of the filthy Israeli thugs. :mad:

[localbrew]

I would like to know exactly how they get there, to Iraq I mean. They can’t fly, take a train or even a car. But heck, I don’t care. I wish every male so called Pal would try to make the trip. Just more cannon fodder for us.

They got bullets and we got bombs. But at the end of the day we all know what the Arab street will do. Jump up and down like monkeys and make some noise. It is a scream……

[Mediocrates]

Through Syria, they share borders?

[Communication]

Yup

[Johnny Yuma]

Originally posted by Jerry
The brave Palestinians will continue their gallant struiggle for freedom whenever and wherever they are called upon to do so, regardless of thge sneers of the filthy Israeli thugs. :mad:

Gen. George Patton said, "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

[Formula]

I love that quote.

[Johnny Yuma]

...... And he will be a wild man; his hand against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

[tandem]

Originally posted by cerulean
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1048922662047
Arafat's Fatah militia dispatches suicide bombers to Iraq
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH



How pathetic it is for the Palestinians to be used once again for a useless mission like this one. The Palestinian suicide bombers' families are being paid by someone -- if it's the same as before, then it is Iraq and Saudi sources of funding.

Clearly, it would be ridiculous for the US to champion a Palestinian state if the leaders of that state are engaging their fighting men in battle against the US.
that's exactly what i was thinking. this is clearly the US adminstration's fault. they are appeasing the palestinians. the palestinians commit suicide bombings against civilians, even against americans in israel, and bush continues to talk about a palestinian state. and now, terrorist commanders who report directly to arafat are probably sending hundreds of would-be suicide bombers to attack US and british forces in iraq. am i missing something here or what? the palestinians continue to murder people in cold blood, and yet here we are rewarding them by insisting they get a state of their own and force israel to make concessions to these people?

[Am Yisrael]

Quite an interesting story! Lets look at it from a broader perspective. The Palestinian terror groups main "tactic" is to provoke Israelis, incite fear, and gain international attention and support. As we have seen it is not that hard for a suicide bomber to detonate themselves in fromt of soldiers.

An advantage of a suicide bomb at a US/British military area in Iraq is a big weapon. Its hard for soldiers to intercept suicide attacks. It provokes US troops to "act" with more precaution. So far there hasnt been much problem. Then the media comes along and reports how US troops treat Iraqi civilians. You guys know how most people think about Israeli checkpoints. US troops will be portrayed like Israeli troops ... An evil barbaric army

I suppose the reason why Palestinians are being sent is because these men are trained to carry out suicide attacks against Israel. Maybe there is something else lurking around. Arabs have always pressed for arab unity. Is this one of those attempting steps?

[cerulean]

Originally posted by Am Yisrael
An advantage of a suicide bomb at a US/British military area in Iraq is a big weapon. Its hard for soldiers to intercept suicide attacks. It provokes US troops to "act" with more precaution. So far there hasnt been much problem. Then the media comes along and reports how US troops treat Iraqi civilians. You guys know how most people think about Israeli checkpoints. US troops will be portrayed like Israeli troops ... An evil barbaric army

This is definitely a big, possible problem. You're right. This will just be an extension of the current big problem in Iraq (and Israel) -- fighting forces hide among the civilian population, with no hesitation to put a pregnant woman or toddler in front of them to use as a shield.


I suppose the reason why Palestinians are being sent is because these men are trained to carry out suicide attacks against Israel. Maybe there is something else lurking around. Arabs have always pressed for arab unity. Is this one of those attempting steps?

It is a demonstration of pan-Arab brotherhood, certainly. But I am not really too impressed, as I don't see any Saudi princes or emirs or anyone like that volunteering to blow themselves up. When will the Palestinians realize they are being taken for suckers in this stupid game?

[Jerry]

Originally posted by localbrew
I would like to know exactly how they get there, to Iraq I mean. They can’t fly, take a train or even a car. But heck, I don’t care. I wish every male so called Pal would try to make the trip. Just more cannon fodder for us.

They got bullets and we got bombs. But at the end of the day we all know what the Arab street will do. Jump up and down like monkeys and make some noise. It is a scream……

:o They are going by flying carpet, Adolph. And when they get there, they will kick your Nazi ass right back to KKK Headquarters!
:mad:

[Micah]

Hey, I've seen one of those carpets before in a movie once! Man they are so cool.

[Johnny Yuma]

Originally posted by Jerry
:o They are going by flying carpet, Adolph. And when they get there, they will kick your Nazi ass right back to KKK Headquarters!
:mad:

Good point! This would make a great beer commercial, if you could say all this with a slow southern drawl!

[cerulean]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30446036.htm
30 Mar 2003 17:11:29 GMT
Islamic Jihad say suicide bombers gone to Baghdad

By Mariam Karouny

BEIRUT, March 30 (Reuters) - Radical Palestinian group Islamic Jihad said on Sunday it had sent a first wave of suicide bombers to Baghdad to help Iraqis fight U.S. and British troops.

"Al-Quds Brigades brings to our people and nation the good news of the arrival of its first martyrdom (attackers) to the heart of Baghdad," a faxed statement from the armed wing of Islamic Jihad said.

"This is to fulfil the holy duty of defending Arab and Muslim land," it said.

Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility on Sunday for a suicide bombing at a crowded pedestrian mall in the Israeli seaside town of Netanya that injured at least 30 people, calling the attack a "gift" to the Iraqi people. . .

Iraqi Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan said thousands of Arab volunteers, including some from Saudi Arabia, were arriving in Iraq to help fight the invaders.

Suicide bombers are closely associated with the long-running Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Saddam, who sees himself as a pan-Arab leader fighting Zionism, has in the past paid money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. . . .

Thus, we have two major Palestinian terrorist groups in Iraq. Of all the things they could be spending their time, money, and manpower on, they've decided that this is the best place for them to do it. I think it should be clear by now, if someone had previously missed it somehow, they are establishing themselves as enemies of the US.

[Jerry]

Originally posted by cerulean
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30446036.htm
30 Mar 2003 17:11:29 GMT
Islamic Jihad say suicide bombers gone to Baghdad

By Mariam Karouny



Thus, we have two major Palestinian terrorist groups in Iraq. Of all the things they could be spending their time, money, and manpower on, they've decided that this is the best place for them to do it. I think it should be clear by now, if someone had previously missed it somehow, they are establishing themselves as enemies of the US.

(1) One man's "terrorist" is anotrher man's "freedom fighter."
(2) It is not the Arabs who have established themeslves as enemies of the US; it is Bush who has established himself as an enemy of all mankind.

[tandem]

>>>'It is not the Arabs who have established themeslves as enemies of the US'<<<

<deleted by moderator> the arabs were involved in terror well before bush ever came to office. even during the clinton administration, and we can't argue that clinton is like bush because nobody offered more incentives to the arabs and palestinians than bill clinton, and yet there were still terrorist attacks taking place by islamists in kenya, yemen, saudi arabia, and israel

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by Jerry
(1) One man's "terrorist" is anotrher man's "freedom fighter."
(2) It is not the Arabs who have established themeslves as enemies of the US; it is Bush who has established himself as an enemy of all mankind.

People who kill civilians, as Palestinian terrorists do, can in no way be considered "freedom fighters." Groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad are not motivated by the desire to create an independent Palestinian state, they are motivated by a racist and death-worshipping ideology, Islamism, to destroy Israel by killing its Jewish inhabitants.

To say that Arabs have not "established themselves as enemies of the US" is ludicrous. The people who massacred >3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, 2001 were Arabs. Arab regimes and groups have been involved in numerous other attacks on Americans. Islamists teach that the U.S. is "the Great Satan" and that it is the duty of all Muslims to engage in jihad against the U.S.

The truth that you are unwilling to face, Jerry, is that most Arab countries have totalitarian governments that regulate every aspect of life, deflect criticism from their own corrupt and inept rule by blaming every problem on the Jews, and work 24/7 to keep the bulk of their population mired in ignorance.

If your sympathies are with the jihad-genocide Arabs who blow up teenage Israeli girls, you should volunteer to be martyred in Iraq. Our troops will be more than happy to accommodate you.

[cerulean]

This reporter's log entry makes sense (scroll down the page to see it):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2903625.stm

London :: Frank Gardner :: 1951GMT

According to Western intelligence, Iraq has failed to find its own volunteers for suicide missions against coalition troops.

Whitehall security sources have told the BBC they have reliable information from inside Iraq that a trawl for volunteers amongst the ruling Baath Party failed to find any takers.

According to the sources, a decision was taken to use remotely-detonated bombs in vehicles without the drivers' knowledge.

They say the man who blew himself up in Najaf on Saturday killing four US Marines almost certainly did not know he was going to die.

British security sources say this shows the desperation of the Iraqi regime. There is no immediate way of verifying their claims.

I wondered about that attack, since the guy had his wife with him. I had not heard of any previous suicide attack where the bomber brought his wife along with him. That sort of defeats the purpose of the bomber's family getting paid to do the attack.

[Jerry]

Originally posted by cerulean
This reporter's log entry makes sense (scroll down the page to see it):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2903625.stm

London :: Frank Gardner :: 1951GMT



I wondered about that attack, since the guy had his wife with him. I had not heard of any previous suicide attack where the bomber brought his wife along with him. That sort of defeats the purpose of the bomber's family getting paid to do the attack.

:mad: The minute the article says "according to western intelligence reports " the credibility of the article is immediately cast into a very serious doubt. They say whatever it is they are programmed to say and you can be damned sure that their real intelligence reports are not divulged to the stooge media! The people who obediently parrot this garbage are irresponsible and should be drummed out of the core of respectable reporters. :o

[minusthejihad]

Originally posted by Jerry
:mad: The minute the article says "according to western intelligence reports " the credibility of the article is immediately cast into a very serious doubt. They say whatever it is they are programmed to say and you can be damned sure that their real intelligence reports are not divulged to the stooge media! The people who obediently parrot this garbage are irresponsible and should be drummed out of the core of respectable reporters. :o

:( Great, I actually welcomed this guy to the Forum. So what you are saying is "according to non-western sources" has more truth to it? Look, when you get out of college and you are still anti-American and anti-Western, you can move out.

[Am Yisrael]

Originally posted by Jerry
[B]:mad: The minute the article says "according to western intelligence reports " the credibility of the article is immediately cast into a very serious doubt.
So are "eastern" intelligence sources more reliable?