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cerulean
04-09-2003, 11:11 AM
I know this article sounds like the Onion, but it's the Jerusalem Post. Given the loss of the Palestinian Liberation Front bomb-making facility, the Palestinian suicide bombers in Iraq, and the Palestinian fighters in Iraq, many Palestinians were rather invested in a Saddam victory. Of course that was a hopeless cause, but that is nothing new for them.

(Emphasis added.)

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1049854721833

Palestinians stunned by collapse of Saddam's regime
KHALED ABU TOAMEH


There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad.

"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.

He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.

"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."

Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting.

"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.

"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones."

Many Palestinians said Saddam was the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat." . . .

I think there is plenty of hope for Palestinians if they renounce terrorism. Supporting Saddam was not a wise move overall, even if he did help fund terrorism against Israelis.

Alfred
04-09-2003, 11:19 AM
Famous Middle Eastern saying:


Never underestimate the Palestinian's ability to screw themselves...


Or something to that effect.

cerulean
04-09-2003, 11:59 AM
Abba Eban said, "The Palestinians never miss a chance to miss a chance." It's sadly true.

MichaelC
04-09-2003, 12:03 PM
NO MORE BOUNTIES ON THE HEADS OF ISRAELIS BY THE BUTCHER OF BAGHDAD !!

The pals have lost their cash cow!

cerulean
04-09-2003, 12:05 PM
They still have the Saudis to help pay the families of suicide bombers. But maybe the Saudis will be a little more reluctant.

ibrodsky
04-09-2003, 12:07 PM
"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Good. Now they know how we felt when we saw the World Trade Center crumble into dust.

The Palestinians weren't upset when Iraq occupied Kuwait. On the contrary, they were jubilant. And they have never complained about Syria's occupation of Lebanon.

What bothers the Palestinians is not that Israel occupies the WB and Gaza, but that they don't occupy Tel Aviv.

cerulean
04-09-2003, 02:50 PM
Some more "Arab street" and official reaction:

Shock, disbelief at Saddam's defeat
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/10/1049567772936.html


. . .Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud, looking upset at a news conference, called for a quick end to Iraq's "occupation."

In a rare departure from diplomacy, Saud responded to a question about Arab anger toward the United States with: "I don't want to talk about anger if you don't mind today.". . .

Any thoughts as to why Prince Saud is upset?

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From Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83704,00.html
Arabs Shocked, Awed by Fall of Baghdad

. . ."We discovered that all what the [Iraqi] information minister was saying was all lies," said Ali Hassan, a government employee in Cairo, Egypt. "Now no one believes Al-Jazeera anymore."

In a live report from Baghdad, correspondent Shaker Hamed of Abu Dhabi Television said: "We are all in shock. How did things come to such an end? How did U.S. tanks enter the center of the city? Where is the resistance? This collapse is puzzling. Was it the result of the collapse of communications between the commanders? Between the political leadership? How come Baghdad falls so easily." . .

Johnny Yuma
04-09-2003, 03:04 PM
You lying left-handed sons of infidel dogs! You know this is just a movie made in Hollywood!!! All actors! We have the infidels either surrounded or on the run!!! I recognized some of the actors!!! All lies!!!! There are no Americans in Iraq!!! All Hollywood!!! I will feed you the information you need!!!

MichaelC
04-09-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by cerulean
Some more "Arab street" and official reaction:

Shock, disbelief at Saddam's defeat
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/10/1049567772936.html



Any thoughts as to why Prince Saud is upset?

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From Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83704,00.html
Arabs Shocked, Awed by Fall of Baghdad
I think it may be dawning on him where the oil bucks that he used to fund Wahhabism in the past, are now going to be headed.

tandem
04-09-2003, 08:34 PM
well obviously they're pissed. there will be little incentive now to blow themselves up. goodbye 25,000$ to palestinian murderers. the tanks will still remain where they are, yes, and as israel showed yesterday, terrorists will be dealt relentlessly, so this whole situation is a double blow to the palestinians

no wonder they want the US to get involved asap with their roadmap for peace. i hope the americans keep their nose out of this one and stick to their commitment with regards to treating terrorists and and the tyrants who harbour them like they did in iraq and afghanistan. arafat and his gang of thugs are no exception! 4 2,000 bombs on the mukata should do the trick

yoyo
04-10-2003, 05:12 AM
Remebers 1967? The 6 days war just started, arab media claimed "we have shot down 100 Israeli Airplanes". Everyday they claimed to have killed "100's of Zionists, all falling in front of the great arab nation". Then.... They woke up!

But I have to give credit where it is due. Even though arabs have show to be incapable of fighting a proper army, they have prooved extremely succesful in killing civilians. Their tactics have no equal when it comes to killing mothers and babies shopping in supermarket, teenager in night clubs, consumer in restaurant, fainancer in towers, etc... :rolleyes: :mad:

Batman
04-10-2003, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by MichaelC
NO MORE BOUNTIES ON THE HEADS OF ISRAELIS BY THE BUTCHER OF BAGHDAD !!

The pals have lost their cash cow!

yey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!B"H!