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Sacha
03-04-2002, 05:44 PM
This is from ABC news services Australia (independent from ABC in the US)

"Israel has launched air strikes against Palestinian targets in the West Bank cities of Ramallah and Bethlehem in the latest cycle of violence in the Middle East.

Israeli soldiers opened artillery fire from Tsargot, a settlement with a clear view of the street in Ramallah where women were driving children home from school in the middle of the day.

One of the cars hit belonged to a local Hamas leader, but he was not in the area.

His wife and three children and two other children were killed.

In Jenin, the doctor in charge of the local Red Crescent medical service was among those killed as Israeli tanks stormed the town.

Palestinian officials say ambulances were stopped from reaching the wounded and when they did move in two were hit by fire from Israeli tanks.

In all, 14 Palestinians were killed in the hours after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon announced his Cabinet had decided to intensify military pressure on the Palestinians after a weekend of attacks that left 21 Israelis dead."

Now ABC derives its international news services from Agence France-Presse (AFP), AAP(International), APTN, Reuters, CNN and
the BBC World Service if you doubt the integrity of the report.

I was just curious as to how much attention and how this incedent was portrait by Israeli news service, If any one has an article about this that was printed in Israel could they possibly post it or forward it to me?

NewsGuy
03-04-2002, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Sacha
I was just curious as to how much attention and how this incedent was portrait by Israeli news service, If any one has an article about this that was printed in Israel could they possibly post it or forward it to me?

Since I read the Israeli press daily, I can say that these incidents were reported widely.

Like I wrote in another message, these ambulances are regularly used by the Palestinian to transport and smuggle Arab terrorists into Israel to do suicide bombings. An example of this was the female suicide bomber who severely wounded more than 150 Israelis at an outdoor shopping mall in Jerusalem after being smuggled into Israel in a Palestinian ambulance.

Stopping those ambulances now is a smart thing, and if the Palestinians gave a damn about their citizens or had even a shred of humanity, they would not have used those ambulaces to perpetrate suicide bombings in the first place.

And as for the family of the mass murderer Hamas leader, this was a very "unfortunate" mistake, I guess.

But evetually, if enough of such "mistakes" are made, then there might finally be a deterrent for Hamas terrorists to stop mass murdering Israeli families, like this one:

http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php3?threadid=287

And come to think of it, since you comlain about the Israeli media, I wonder how much coverage exactly did the mass murder of the Israeli family receive on your media?

Have you ever seen their photos on your local TV station, or did your media conceal these attrocities commited by the Palestinians and only report on the IDF stopping Palestinian ambulances?

Come on, please trell us the truth, did you ever see the photos of the murdered Israeli family on your impartial TV networks?

aid
03-12-2002, 01:34 PM
Thank you Sacha for your efforts of keeping us informed.

Too bad Australia is so bloody far away that all the news are coming there after weeks of delay.

But keep up the good work, Sacha. Nice try.

Where are you from, Sacah? Originally?

Slack
03-31-2002, 11:57 AM
Come on, please tell us the truth, did you ever see the photos of the murdered Israeli family on your impartial TV networks?

in germany the tv shows every day about a part of 10% till 30% of the news about the israel/palestine conflict/war. and, to answer your question, yes, they show the innocent victims of suicide bombers even in details i don't want to see.

they also show pictures of israeli soldiers firing @ stone throwing kids, or tanks which blocking roads or quarantine cities.
FM fischer says something wise, if you listen to israelis, you think, yes, their right and their point of view is the right one. if you listen to palestine you think the same.

imho germany is the last country in the world to told israel what they have to do to protect themself. the whole world shold seek a solution for the palestine problem.

NewsGuy
03-31-2002, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Slack
FM fischer says something wise, if you listen to israelis, you think, yes, their right and their point of view is the right one. if you listen to palestine you think the same.
Well, this kind of attitude is not a very wise one.

The problem here is that he draws a false moral equivalency between the Israeli victims and their Arab murderers.

Sure, if you go to visit any jail and spoke to ordinary murderers about why they did it, they may have an explanation, but it still doesn't make it right. And certainly, having an explanation for committing a deliberate murder does not put the murderer on the same level with his victim.

In the Israeli/Palestinian conflict there is no cycle of violence as the European governments would like to believe. There is a situation in which Israelis are fighting for their lives when their children are being bombed and the streets of Israel are full of Jewish blood.

All the nicely wrapped explanations of the Arabs and of the EU will not change this fact.

And while the Palestinians have a right like all people, to have independence, we cannot forget that there has been a peace process in place which offered them exactly that, and which they rejected and instead chose to mass murder Israelis.

So now they are paying the price.

Slack
03-31-2002, 12:29 PM
nobody compares morality of suicide murders with their victims.
to understand the conflict and find a solution it's nessecary to understand both sides, that what fischer meant.

aid
03-31-2002, 12:44 PM
Herr Fischer may not understand the other side, but I do.

Lack of understanding is the very last of the problems.