War on Hamas

[Am Yisrael]

Lets have a roundup of events BEFORE Israel decided to take firm action against Terrorist groups:

- Hamas rejects the road map firmly and claims "We will fight till every Jew is out of Palestine". Let me say that "Palestine" in Hamas's opinion is not only the West Bank and Gaza strip, but also the whole of Israel. Therefore it is unlikely a seperate Palestinian state will stop Hamas from terrorising Israel.

- Abu Mazen claims he will not use force against Terrorist groups. What this implies is that a rebuilt Palestinian security force will not face themselves against Hamas in any way. At least Arafat tried to show he was doing something against terrorist groups... even though he hardly did anything. Let me remind you that in Oslo alot of Palestinian policemen had strong relations to terrorist groups before. Let me also remind you that because of this, alot of Palestinian security personnel have participated over the last few years in terrorism against Israel.

- Joint attack by Hamas and other terrorists on an Israeli Army outpost. 4 Israeli soldiers killed. Hamas vow more terrorism against "zionist occupiers".

After these events Israel had then stepped up on Hamas. The following targetted attacks by the IDF were carried out:

- Helicopter attack on a prominent Hamas terrorist who was a founder of Hamas: Abdel Aziz Rantisi. The bugger escaped but is now in Hospital. This guy has a lot of blood on his hands. He doesnt deserve to live.

- Two prominent Hamas terrorists killed on Wednesday in helicopter attack on targeted vehicle: Sual Abu Nahal, personal bodyguard of Sheikh Yassin, and Masud Titi, head of "Qassam" missiles squads.

- More Helicopter attacks in a different part of Gaza terminate: Yasser Taha, a Hamas fugitive and aid to senior bombmaker Mohammed Deif, and Jihad Srour, another Deif associate.

Although Hamas was the main target over the last few days, Islamic Jihad suffered a blow from Israel when a senior Islamic Jihad terrorist from Jenin, Salah Jaradat, was killed along with another terrorist. At the moment alot of key Hamas terrorists have gone into hiding in Gaza due to Israels key attacks. I wouldnt be surprised if Hamas leader, Sheikh Yassin, is a target soon. Lets hope Israel can root out Hamas quickly and precisely.

Surprisingly the US hasnt given Israel a bollocking because of Israels campaign against Hamas. As long as Israel can stick to targeted assasinations then im sure the "roadmap for peace" can continue in a screwed sort of way. Until Abu Mazen promises to take action against Palestinian terrorists, then Israel bears the responsibility of destroying them. There is no negotiating with terror.

[alexbmn]

what War on Hamas? Today a missie killed ONE Palestinian. ONE. Oh yeah Hamas is shaking.

[minusthejihad]

Tum, Tum, Tum, Another One Bites the Dust!

And another one comes, and another one comes, Another One Bites the Dust.

They should have done this years ago.

[Am Yisrael]

Originally posted by alexbmn
what War on Hamas? Today a missie killed ONE Palestinian. ONE. Oh yeah Hamas is shaking.

Notice how Israel was targeting high rank members of Hamas. "Kill the Queen and her kingdom will collapse".

Yes minusthejihad, this should have been carried out a long time ago. I guess Israel was waiting for Hamas to declare themselves firmly against the roadmap before taking strong action.

[minusthejihad]

Like I said, hopefully Hamas members will end up like ex-Baathists in Iraq.

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by alexbmn
what War on Hamas? Today a missie killed ONE Palestinian. ONE. Oh yeah Hamas is shaking.

It looks like Israel is being more aggressive now. Let's see how this plays out.

[andak01]

Originally posted by minusthejihad
Like I said, hopefully Hamas members will end up like ex-Baathists in Iraq.

You mean put back into petty positions in government because there is nobody else to prevent anarchy? That'll solve alot. Why don't you just move to Haiti?

[JustPat]

If the US had such courage and determination it would make much shorter work of the war on terror. May G_d grant Israel great success in her war on terror and visit His wrath upon her enemies.

[Am Yisrael]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1055482888294

Jun. 13, 2003
Hamas leader Sheih Ahmed Yassin next?
By THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

Officials told Israel Radio that the current war against Hamas will be waged without compromise, and that there is nothing holding Israel back from hitting the most senior Hamas leaders, including Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.

Back in March, Yoni Fighel of the International Policy Institute for Counterterrorism said, "Our failure to act against Hamas has consisted of a de facto agreement that we will not touch them. And that is wrong, and unnecessary." He suggested that the army's arrest of Hamas co-founder Muhammad Taha on March 3rd indicated a shift in IDF policy.

What do you people think of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin? Do you guys think he should be the main target by Israel at the moment... or do you think we should leave him and wait for him to die in his bed? I think that once he is gone, Hamas will start to lose its identity and in turn help Israel destroy it.

Let me remind you again that Hamas WILL NOT stop terror attacks until they achieve there goal of destroying Israel:


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1055574197881

Jun. 14, 2003
Hamas rejects "all possibilities" of ceasefire with Israel
By THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi released a statement from Gaza City to the AFP Saturday saying his group rejected any ceasefire agreement with Israel.

"The Hamas rejects all possibilities of a ceasefire with Israel," read the statement. "Ceasefire is not part of our lexicon," added the Hamas leader.

Meanwhile, Palestinians reported that the Hamas man killed by Israeli helicopter missiles on Friday in Gaza City was Fuad Gidawi, whose brother Mustafa is the Hamas representative in Iran.

Israeli helicopter gunships fired three missiles at Gidawi's car, killing him and wounding 22, doctors in Gaza said.

The IDF has attacked Hamas terror leaders and members of the group's military wing in five missile strikes this week.

[elke]

With all due respect to the elderly, IMO the sooner Yassin goes,- the better.

[MichaelC]

Every member of hamas should meet a bullet TODAY. Their only function is to murder Jews and they should be annihilated without mercy.

[jewbyc]

Originally posted by MichaelC
Every member of hamas should meet a bullet TODAY. Their only function is to murder Jews and they should be annihilated without mercy.

I agree that israel should kill every last terrorist but if they catch a few when possible and give them a trial and then hang um. It would go a long toward propaganda. Make no mistake as evil as the PLO are they are winning the propaganda war. to when any war you have to win your critiques hearts first. Or just kill them if that does'nt work. I for one would adopt the gurilla war fair Motto which says: and I quote

"I will kill your father your mother your brother and your sister and anybody else who aligns themselves with you until you surrender enmass or die"

[alexbmn]

Did the 'war against Hamas" take a Shabbat break?

[andak01]

Originally posted by Am Yisrael
What do you people think of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin? Do you guys think he should be the main target by Israel at the moment... or do you think we should leave him and wait for him to die in his bed? I think that once he is gone, Hamas will start to lose its identity and in turn help Israel destroy it.

Let me remind you again that Hamas WILL NOT stop terror attacks until they achieve there goal of destroying Israel:

I can't blame you for fearing someone for what they say and wishing to kill them for the inciting words they speak. Perhaps Israel could have a vote in the knesset and proclaim a fatwa against Sheikh Yassin. It doesn't sound so good when you say it that way.

[L@mplighterM]

I’m of the opinion that Hamas is just a small part of a larger problem called Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. I think that if the Hamas leadership was wiped off the face of this earth we might see a lull in terrorism but it would raise its ugly head again.

I think that if you look at the broader picture it becomes evident that Islamic fundamentalism is no longer a problem entirely native to Israel. The economies of Muslim countries are in shambles, actually I would classify them beyond repair, of course that’s not to say that there was ever anything to fix.

I’m certain that jealousy(they see the prosperity) is a factor in much of what is currently taking place in Israel. The west has become a scapegoat for what ails Islam and as the population in Muslim countries grows we can expect an increase in terrorism.

[minusthejihad]

Originally posted by andak01
You mean put back into petty positions in government because there is nobody else to prevent anarchy? That'll solve alot. Why don't you just move to Haiti?

Haiti smells bad. The people aren't too friendly either. And lastly, there's no Club Med. I would rather see Susan Summers go.

Actually, if its any consolation, I would like for every single member of Hamas and anyone planning on joining to die slow painful deaths, if that's what you wanted to hear. But unfortunately, there's too many people like you who would scream, "They're people too!" for my wish to come true.

[L@mplighterM]

Snip:


Jun. 14, 2003
Hamas: The word 'cease-fire' does not exist in our dictionary
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

Hamas and Islamic Jihad on Saturday rejected efforts by the Palestinian Authority to reach a cease-fire and vowed to continue their attacks against Israel.

Under the terms of the proposed cease-fire, initially to last three days, Israel would stop all attempts to assassinate Palestinian militants in exchange for an agreement by Hamas to halt all attacks on Israel, including the firing of Kassam rockets.

"Hamas is rejecting any call for ceasefire under occupation," senior Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi said in Gaza City. "The word ceasefire is not in our dictionary. We are being attacked, the Palestinian people, our land, our religious sites are being attacked by Zionist terrorists. This is a situation of self-defense and we will continue to defend ourselves."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1055574200045

[L@mplighterM]

Saudis admit funding Hamas



Snip:

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 13, 2003
Saudi Arabia has acknowledged that it sends funds to Hamas.

The top Saudi spokesman in the United States told a Washington press conference the kingdom has relayed funds that finance what he termed Hamas's political wing. He said the money arrives via governments and non-governmental organizations.


Western intelligence sources say that Saudi Arabia provides Hamas with about $30 million a year, raised through foundations and donations from members of the royal family.
The disclosure came as the United States has reiterated its appeal for Arab leaders to end the funding of Hamas. President George Bush raised the issue of Saudi funding to Hamas during the summit in Sharm e-Sheik last week, Middle East Newsline reported.


http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_8.html

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
Saudis admit funding Hamas



It's well known that they hold telephone "martyrthons" in Saudi Arabia, so the Saudis' claim that they only support the "political wing" are laughable. Plus, what does the "political wing" of a mass murder gang mean?

[MichaelC]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
It's well known that they hold telephone "martyrthons" in Saudi Arabia, so the Saudis' claim that they only support the "political wing" are laughable. Plus, what does the "political wing" of a mass murder gang mean?
The lamest of euphemisms! Whatever funds are sent to Hamas for whatever reason frees up funds to murder Israelis.

[L@mplighterM]

So the Saudis fork over 30 million to Hamas and Iran forks over an equal amount to Hizbullah and another government hand over x quantity of dollars to al Qaida and the money keeps flowing into the terrorists hands.

Terrorism is big business and I wonder if there’s an estimate floating around out there that indicates just how much money flows into the hands of terrorists.

[cerulean]

Originally posted by MichaelC
The lamest of euphemisms! Whatever funds are sent to Hamas for whatever reason frees up funds to murder Israelis.

The same thing was true for the IRA - a political wing and a terrorist wing that were supposedly separate. Hezbollah also has some sort of pro forma separation.

[MichaelC]

Originally posted by cerulean
The same thing was true for the IRA - a political wing and a terrorist wing that were supposedly separate. Hezbollah also has some sort of pro forma separation.
It simply allows people to support the carnage while pretending they are really being benevolent. It is a lie on its face that doesn't really make much of a pretense. Obviously, any funds that go to hamas allows them to continue with their main function which is to kill Jews.

I do not consider thier social programs to have any other purpose than the simple preservation of bodies that can be strapped with explosives or taught to aim a weapon.