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Communication
07-30-2003, 05:28 PM
The late King Hussein of Jordan wanted Israel to bomb Syrian forces during the Black September crisis of 1970, according to British Government documents released on Monday.
The documents, disclosed under the British Government's 30-year rule and featuring in a special BBC New Year's Day documentary, reveal the king feared that the Middle East would slide into all-out war if Jordan fell into the hands of Syrian-backed Palestinian guerrillas.

That fear, at the height of an international hijacking and hostage crisis which came to define a decade of terrorism, led the King to approach the British Government and ask it to persuade Israel to intervene.




Wow! The BBC doesn't write em like they used to:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1095221.stm

L@mplighterM
07-30-2003, 08:59 PM
Documents that were sealed were recently released, hence the story.

Communication
07-31-2003, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by L@mplighterM
Documents that were sealed were recently released, hence the story.
the story is from 2001. what's been released since then?

Mil
07-31-2003, 05:16 AM
Posted by Communication:


The late King Hussein of Jordan wanted Israel to bomb Syrian forces during the Black September crisis of 1970, according to British Government documents released on Monday.
The documents, disclosed under the British Government's 30-year rule and featuring in a special BBC New Year's Day documentary, reveal the king feared that the Middle East would slide into all-out war if Jordan fell into the hands of Syrian-backed Palestinian guerrillas.


The British documents!!!!! That's new.


That fear, at the height of an international hijacking and hostage crisis which came to define a decade of terrorism, led the King to approach the British Government and ask it to persuade Israel to intervene.


It was not a British affair at all. Israel would never do anything for Britain or especially for a British-pseudo-protactorate Jordan through Britain. The only law out there was the United States and that's what really happened. Only with American backing did Israel organize mobilization with Kissinger working heavily on the diplomatic front.

Mediocrates
07-31-2003, 05:42 AM
According to the Middle Eastern military parity reports publically available on CSIS.org (you really have to dig for them then you have to read a few hundred pages) this story is not accurate. The story is that when Black Sept occured, Assad saw an opportunity to topple the Jordanian govt and sent a column of 250 tanks and mobile armor to Amman. Jordanian and American back channels pleaded with Israel to act and apparently it worked. The IAF sent sorties against Syrian armor and stopped their advance. Against a backdrop of the 1968-71 'war of attrition' with several low level artillery and air attacks against one another (Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Syria) this is entirely plausible.

Mil
07-31-2003, 05:56 AM
Against a backdrop of the 1968-71 'war of attrition' with several low level artillery and air attacks against one another (Israel and Egypt, and Israel and Syria) this is entirely plausible.


What I disagree with that it was Britain that influenced Israel's decision for action. What is plausible is that Jordan's only dependable or rather sympathetic Western contact was Britain. What was happening - and that is confirmed - that all the Jordanian/Israeli communications occured in the following manner; Jordan -> Britain -> US -> Israel.

As far as Britain playing any direct role in asking Israel to do anything militarily against the Arabs..... It would never happen in 1970. Britain just abandonded it's "East Of Suez" participation - which was a huge deal for Britain - and getting involved in another Arab/Israeli squable was far beyond its interests especially following 1967 when Britain was completely taken out of the negotiating equation.

andak01
07-31-2003, 06:36 AM
I suggest anyone interested in Black September read this article I wrote for my website.

http://www.roguestate.org/Olympics.htm

Mil
07-31-2003, 06:47 AM
Sounds like a print-out from Leon Uris. What really happened will not be known for quite some time to come.

In any case "Black September" discussed in this topic is the Palestinian revolt that took place in Jordan in September and October of 1970.

andak01
07-31-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Mil
Sounds like a print-out from Leon Uris. What really happened will not be known for quite some time to come.

In any case "Black September" discussed in this topic is the Palestinian revolt that took place in Jordan in September and October of 1970.

The same Black September that orchestrated the attack on Olympic village and the same Black September that were largely hunted down and assassinated by Mossad.

minusthejihad
07-31-2003, 08:20 AM
If I could of done it all over again, I would of had my parents move to Israel from USSR instead of America, and I would have tried to become a Mossad agent.

I can't imagine a better career than hunting down and killing murderers of your people and family and making the world a better place at the same time. Artful vindication, I love it and I'm jealous.

Mil
07-31-2003, 08:40 AM
Posted by andak:


The same Black September that orchestrated the attack on Olympic village and the same Black September that were largely hunted down and assassinated by Mossad.


Nope. The Palestinian uprising in Jordan that lasted from September to October of 1970 became known as "Black September." Tens of thousands of Palestinians were killed by the Jordanians. The Palestinian terrorist group just adopted the name.

It's an interesting history. I recommend you read about it.

LevyCohen
07-31-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by andak01
I suggest anyone interested in Black September read this article I wrote for my website.

http://www.roguestate.org/Olympics.htm

wow, even in your other website postings, you cant stop but bleed your hatred from your foaming, seething mouth...