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jimmyc
04-21-2002, 12:52 PM
Buna seara,

Am pus articolul lui Oriana Fallaci, dar este in Franceza, cineva poate sa-l traduca in ivrim, angleza, romana sau rusa, limbile vorbite in Israel???

Va multumesc,
Si va doresc o saptamana buna la toti

Jimmy

Bonsoir,

J'ai posté ci dessous l'article d'Oriana Fallaci, mais mon anglais n'est pas si bon pour faire une traduction fidèle.

Si vous pouvez le traduire en roumain, anglais, ivrim ou toute autre langue parlée en Israel, je vous en remercie

Je vous souhaite une bonne semaine pour tous
Jimmy

Vic
04-21-2002, 01:31 PM
Hi, Jimmy

do you have a link to the original Italian text?

thx

Vic

takeo
04-21-2002, 01:48 PM
Ou est-ce que je peux trouver l'article?

la revedere

cerulean
04-21-2002, 04:03 PM
Here is an unofficial English translation of Oriana Fallaci's recent article.

http://www.israelinsider.com/views/articles/views_0347.htm

NewsGuy
04-21-2002, 04:47 PM
Jimmy, please re-post in English, so we can all participate.

If you are having difficulties translating something, you can use one of the automated free translation services on the Web.

I think that one such service called "Bablefish" is available through www.altavista.com. Even though it's not perfect, people will still get the idea of what you want to post.

cerulean, great find again!

victot
04-21-2002, 06:51 PM
bonjour jimmy, bienvenue au forum. (pardon ma francais)

Je commence par vous demandez un question. si vous marchez dans la rue, et vous rencantrez 2 persons, un qui s'appel flippy, un qui sappel george, qui vous pensez aime plus de fair la peiche? vous probablemnet pensez flippy, mais ce n'est pas correcte. c'est george.

takeo
04-21-2002, 06:53 PM
très intéressant victot... :rolleyes:

victot
04-21-2002, 06:59 PM
heh

NewsGuy
04-21-2002, 07:07 PM
Again, please re-post this discussion in English.

takeo
04-21-2002, 07:39 PM
really, you didn't miss anything... :)

jimmyc
04-21-2002, 09:32 PM
Bonjour Vic,

I am sorry, I have not the original link...

Have a good day
Jimmy

cerulean
06-01-2002, 06:32 PM
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,726231,00.html

The book Anger and Pride was commissioned after the article, posted above, was published.

cerulean
06-01-2002, 10:01 PM
I made a mistake - it appears it wasn't the April article, posted above that led to the book, but a different September article. (It appears all have similar themes, though.)

Vic
06-01-2002, 10:36 PM
The article had ugly consequences for Oriana Fallaci, apparently she recieved death threats from Muslim communities in Italy. Here is a short article about it: http://archquo.nouvelobs.com/cgi/articles?ad=etranger/20020426.OBS5184.html&host=http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/ - sorry, in French :)

cerulean
06-02-2002, 01:42 AM
The September 29, 2001 article, later expanded into the book is available here:

http://www.borg.com/~paperina/fallaci/
(an unauthorized English translation)

I checked the link above from Israel Insider that I gave earlier for the April 12, 2002 article and I see the translation has been removed because it was unauthorized. However, you can get ahold of it via Google at this link:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Heimdall-F5BA5D.10333822042002%40news2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net&oe=UTF8&output=gplain

I do feel somewhat bad for pointing to these unauthorized translations. Perhaps the thing to do to make amends is to actually purchase Fallaci's book.

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Vic, thanks for the interesting article you provided above. This article (in Italian) has a little more info about who is making the threats and the content of the threats:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=nWiy8.16534%24W9.404631%40twister2.lib ero.it&oe=UTF8&output=gplain

NewsGuy - could you add some English to the thread title perhaps?

Mediocrates
06-02-2002, 03:58 PM
I remember that it took 20 minutes of googleing to locate an already translated into English version of this. That is, a non bablefish version. I can't recall where it was but it can't be that hard to find again.

cerulean
06-11-2002, 08:02 AM
A French group is taking legal proceedings to stop distribution of Fallaci's book because it is a "scathing Islamophobic attack" and "racist delirium."

http://library.northernlight.com/EB20020611720000058.html?cb=0&dx=1006&sc=0#doc

The book is coming to the United States in September.

The article references a LeFigaro article in which Fallaci discussesthe death threats against her. I couldn't find that one, but did find this one, which has a bit more info:

http://www.lefigaro.fr/france/20020611.FIG0106.html

Mediocrates
06-11-2002, 08:33 AM
http://fallaci.blogspot.com/

http://www.giselle.com/oriana.html



I think these are the doclinks - check them out

Adversary2Arabs
06-24-2002, 06:43 PM
I heard its a good book, but from my view, anything anti-Arab is a good thing.

cerulean
10-17-2002, 07:28 AM
A review of Fallaci's book:

http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher101002.asp