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NewsGuy
04-29-2002, 03:42 PM
The New Fascism
Frightening extremist rhetoric from America’s critics
By Victor Davis Hanson
National Review Online (http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson042602.asp)
April 26, 2002

Watching televised clips from a recent pro-Palestinian rally in Washington, along with other such demonstrations over the last few weeks, can be a chilling experience. One woman chanted, "Israel will be no more" — apparently a call for the abject and utter destruction of the Jewish state. On posters the Star of David was juxtaposed to a swastika — the sick subtext of that message lost on no one. Many openly condemned the "Jews" and "Zionists" in a manner reminiscent of Nuremberg circa 1936. The past few days their government-sponsored supporters in the Arab world talked of Jews as "monkeys," and called for the "termination" of Israel.

During a time of war, with a still-damaged Pentagon not far in the distance, the United States was roundly denounced on television as imperialistic and a promoter of terror and international murder...

The murderous regimes of Iraq, Libya, and Iran were the favored nations of many of the speakers. Threats against Sharon's person and Israel were frequently voiced — all broadcast live on C-SPAN. What are we to make of this recent, and very odd, coalescence of the new anti-American Left with radical Islamicists and pro-Palestinian extremists?

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History and facts mattered little, and so were not mentioned. Suicide murdering; bound and gagged Palestinians executed by their own comrades; booby-trapped homes and corpses; ambulances used as terrorist vehicles; bomb factories at U.N. camps; ample U.S. military aid to Egypt, Jordan, and Palestine; and the long history of the region that has witnessed three wars against Israel launched from the Arab-controlled West Bank to destroy the Jewish state never came up. Nor did the current popularity of Mein Kampf in Arab bookstores.

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The truth is that a lunatic fringe similar to Hitler of the early 1920s is also active now in America, and has tried to galvanize resistance to the Untied States by using the events of Sept. 11 and the recent fighting in the Middle East. But this time the racists, fascists, and faux-victims are from the purported Left and not the Right... They are not progressives, not even socialists, communists, or anarchists. Rather, their language is pure hatred — as well as anti-Semitic and fascistic.

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The only way to confront the new fascists is to speak honestly about them and not remain silent. Each time a Palestinian extremist uses the word "Jew," each time an activist praises Libya, Iraq, or Iran and either condones or praises suicide murderers, each time a screaming protestor slanders the present president of the United States as a killer, terrorist, and war criminal, each time we hear of conspiracies that explain our aid to Jewish Israel, we must all simply remonstrate, "Hitler would smile at every thing you say."

And, of course, he would.

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Any reactions to this?

Mediocrates
04-29-2002, 07:46 PM
"Get out of my country - and take us with you."

-that about says it all.

L@mplighterM
04-29-2002, 08:30 PM
From my point of view there should've been an outpouring of support for Israel especially post 9/11. This has not materialized on the contrary there seems to be less support. Several questions come to mind:

1. Are people unable to make the connection between the Islamic Fundamentalists committing terrorist attacks in Israel and the Islamic Fundamentalists in New York that destroyed the World Trade Centers and the Pentagon? After all there's evidence that they are connected.
2. Is the media responsible for separating the attacks in NY and the attacks in Israel?
3. Are the people showing support for Islam out of fear? In other words if we support them they will leave us alone. Similar reasoning to kids chumming up to the school bully so that he'll/she'll leave him/her alone.

Odd!

Belgium@EU
05-09-2002, 02:58 AM
In Europe we didn't have protestors so far who wanted to get rid of the state of Israel. They were just oppsosing Sharon's military actions. And here you are not allowed to march through streets with Swastika's. The Swastika is forbidden in most European regimes.

thrud
05-09-2002, 03:32 AM
Jeraldo Rivera recently said on Fox News that he thought suicide bombing was a legitimate way to fight. Someone on this board brought up the Japanese suicide bombers.

What the Japanese did, though terrible, was against defendable ships. My grandfather was on one. He said they knocked down a couple of them before one finally made it. The South Korean military wraped dynamite around some of their soldiers and charged North Korean tanks. The difference between the Japanese/Korean suicide bombers and the Palestinian Murder bombers is who they targeted. If the Palestinians targeted tanks or check points, then I think the world would be a lot more sypathetic to them, but they are not. They are targeting people who can not defend themselves.

Many of the heroic South Koreans who attempted to attack did not make it. They often died before they reached the tanks because they were shot by the tank commanders or an infantry flanker. What the Palestinians are doing is not heroic, it is barbaric.

They need to find another way to fight other than killing non-combatants.

takeo
05-09-2002, 11:15 PM
"They need to find another way to fight other than killing non-combatants."

I agree, they do so, but they should ONLY attack people involved in the military or decision-makers.

thrud
05-10-2002, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by takeo
"They need to find another way to fight other than killing non-combatants."

I agree, they do so, but they should ONLY attack people involved in the military or decision-makers. That's right. Women and children do not fit either category.

Now what about the situation where innocents are killed when the military is targeted? My answer to this is that the Palestinians need to stop couching their fighters, arsenals, and arms factories near civilians. By storing missles in mosques they are intentionally putting the bulls eye on civilians. They know that the military has to target arsenals to get at the enemy, but when a woman gets killed because her dipstick husband is storing C4 in the closet who is to blame? The blame will always fall on the Israelis. This is not fair, but it is designed. The civilian dead in Jenin are because of things like that. The ambulances that have been targeted were because the Palestinians were using the ambulances for military purposes.

If the Palestinians were to stop murder bombing cafes, they should also store their military apparatus away from civilian structures and centers. If they did this it would ensure that no non-combatants were killed. They won't though because they know the second they start behaving like a normal military organization, it will be targeted by the much more powerful Israeli military.

The Palestinians are too cowardly to behave ethically. They would rather sacrifice their own women and children and that of their enimies than realize they have lost and that now it is time to negotiate a settlement and to live in whatever peace they can scratch out.

If Isreal could, they would settle for the kingdom that King David was able to etch out, but they do not have that luxery. They have to sit back and realize that the city that their most important King (David) is from is now held by the Palestinians. Their most holy site has a mosque sitting on it. They have had to learn to be satisfied with what they have and so should the Palestinians.