UN's Jenin Investigation Dropped

[NewsGuy]

Apparently fearing that it could not railroad Israel into a biased and one-sided condemnation, the UN has reportedly dropped its lynch-mob style "investigation" today.

In the past few weeks, an Arab and EU-initiated action at the UN sought to frame Israel for an imaginary massacre in Jenin, which was fabricated by the Palestinian Authority.

Saeb Erekat, chief of the propaganda and disinformation arm of Arafat's terror machine, first alleged that 1500 Palestinian were massacred by Israel at Jenin, but then retracted that lie in favor of a smaller, but equally appalling lie that only 500 were massacred. Israel maintained that it killed 50 Palestinians, including 47 gunmen belonging to Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hizbullah and Arafat's al Aksa Martyrs Brigade were killed in a difficult battle.

While various Arabs, as well as terrorism supporters and their apologists have tried to claim that Israel refused to cooperate with the UN's biased investigation in the hopes of hiding "something," Israel has widely refuted that claim. According to PM Sharon's office, Israel simply demanded that certain conditions of expertise and objectivity be implemented, including:

1. Requiring military experts ot be part of the investigating team, rather than the bureaucrats sent to rubber-stamp the condemnation of Israel, regardless of the actual findings, and

2. Requiring that the investigation be objective and complete in examining the role of Palestinian terrorism in the battle for Jenin.

Meanwhile, to prove it had nothing to hide, Israel allowed representatives of the UN, representatives of the EU as well as representatives of Amnesty International to investigate Jenin. All those representatives declared publicly that no massacre took place in Jenin, contrary to the Palestinian claims.

And so ends another ugly chapter in the UN's history of capitulation to Arab dishonesty and providing political and financial support for terrorism against innocent Israeli civilians.

[Elena]

The Israeli army can violate the human rights of civilians innocents with all impunity, and the rest of the word must to say that the palestinians are guilty of this situation for live there and an to say that Sharon always do the things very well, because he is a man of peace... and yes, he wants the peace...

the peace of the conquerors

If someone say that Sharon maybe can be wrong, he´s anti-Israeli without any doubt.

Rome also wanted the peace in Israel in the past.
the Roman Pax ...
and destroyed the Jerusalem Temple and all the old institutions of the jews.

A simple question, can the missile of helicopters and the ammunition of the tanks distinguish a civilian of a terrorist?

To create more hate is a solution to stop the suicide killers?

[takeo]

bien dicho Elena

It's obvious that the UN-investigation can not be accomplished without Israeli agreement. If the Israeli propaganda concerning jenin should be really true than Israel shouldn't fear a un-investigation-commission, as iraq has nothing to fear if it really doesn't have any more nuclear or chemical weapons.
For its agreement Israel was demanding that it could choose themselves the witnesses and some people represented in the commission, of course this would clearly nullify the objectivity of the commission and for example Iraq could never demand this, nor could Yougoslavia or any other country in the same position.
For the whole world it's clear Israel is telling lies and has a lot to hide, it was already clear by not allowing outsiders or even the red cross or crescent during the operation and now it is absolutely certain by not allowing the UN-commission. If your story is correct and the truth, OK, why not show it to the whole world, and especially to the commission? And believe me, I'm not alone in this, everyone not belonging to the die-hard-sharon supporters will come to the same logical conclusions. This is VERY bad propaganda for Israel (only worse would be a report charging sharon with crimes against humanity, so sharon choose the best of to evils for him...)

[takeo]

http://www.gush-shalom.org/

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Elena
The Israeli army can violate the human rights of civilians innocents with all impunity, and the rest of the word must to say that the palestinians are guilty of this situation for live there and an to say that Sharon always do the things very well, because he is a man of peace... and yes, he wants the peace...
I think you are confused, Elena. The people whose human rights have actually been violated are the Israeli victims of Palestinian terrorism who are massacred at their holiday dinner, in restaurants, in shopping malls and in their beds.

So far, the Palestinian and Islamic mass murderers have been conducting their Jihad-genocide with impunity, but now there is finally a message to the Arabs that if they build missile factories among residences, use their own people as human shields, launch anti-tank missiles from homes, booby-trap buildings and corpses and launch suicide bombing attacks, their cities will wind up as Jenin.

That is the only sane message that should be brought to the terrorists which you are lamenting.

I am sorry that you feel so badly that Israel finally managed to stop the Palestinian suicide bombings. You must be deeply disappointed that so far no more Israeli citizens are being massacred in the streets of Israel, right?



A simple question, can the missile of helicopters and the ammunition of the tanks distinguish a civilian of a terrorist? To create more hate is a solution to stop the suicide killers?
Yes, of course Israel's helicopters and tanks distinguish between Palestinian armed terrorists and between civilians. I know it might be convenient for you to deny this, but it is the reality, confirmed by the representatives of the UN, EU and Amnesty International.

But since you're asking these questions, I also have a question for you: Were the Palestinian suicide bombers trying to avoid harming Israeli civilians? Can suicide bombs packed with nails and shrapnel distinguish between people?

[takeo]

no, they can't, nor can the israeli rockets and bulldozers (as reality showed us) but there is already someone to punish those terrorists (and, in the same time, all the resistant fighters against the occupation + a lot of innocent victims) but there is NOBODY to punish the Israeli criminals. That's why the commission will focus first on israel, an established state, and thus subject to international laws that are practised in the occupied territories.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by takeo
That's why the commission will focus first on israel, an established state, and thus subject to international laws that are practised in the occupied territories.
Let me see if I understand your UN discrimination excuse du jour: The Palestinian mass murderers of Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Hizbullah and Arafatistan are not subject to international laws because they have no tanks and have consistently lost the wars they started against Israel?

[L@mplighterM]

Anan cancelled the investigation but he left a dark shadow on the IDF and Israel. It became evident that there never was a massacre in Jenin and that is why the investigation was called off.

His statements to the UN dosen?t indicate the fact that a massacre didn?t take place.

Quote from Anan:
The secretary-general also noted that time was "a critical factor."
"With the situation in the Jenin refugee camp changing by the day, it will become more and more difficult to establish with any confidence or accuracy the 'recent events' that took place there," he said.
"For these reasons, it is my intention to disband the fact-finding team tomorrow (Thursday)," he said.

The man is biased to at the very least and leaves the door open to more retaliation by the Palestinians.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/676280/posts

[JustPat]

Originally posted by takeo
http://www.gush-shalom.org/ In our country we too have the voice of ardent peacenikswho believe that the US should totally disarm and become the socialist utopia. Thanks to the strength of the greatest military machine in the world and the great fist of deterrence, they are free to share their views without fear of reprisal. I guess Israel is on the right track.

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by takeo
no, they can't, nor can the israeli rockets and bulldozers (as reality showed us) but there is already someone to punish those terrorists (and, in the same time, all the resistant fighters against the occupation + a lot of innocent victims) but there is NOBODY to punish the Israeli criminals. That's why the commission will focus first on israel, an established state, and thus subject to international laws that are practised in the occupied territories.

What f'n reality? I thought you said the press wasn't there. Here goes your imagination again.