Oh Jerusalem
05-30-2004, 12:16 PM
IMRA's Dr. Aaron Lerner was as pissed off as many of the rest of us. I disagree with many a JPost opinion piece but Asa-El's piece was disgraceful.
Here's the whole IMRA article, which includes a copy of the Asa-El's viscious column:
Sunday, May 30, 2004
Exchange: Jerusalem Post Ed. & IMRA on Column on Min. Landau (http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=21009)
The following is an exchange between Jerusalem Post Editor Bret Stephens and
Aaron Lerner - IMRA. It should be noted that Amotz Asa-El is executive
editor of The Jerusalem Post. Besides the puzzling line, the article is
chock-a-bloc with barefaced lies that raise serious questions as to the
ability of Asa-El to differentiate between his ideological beliefs and
reality.
Asa-El tries to deceive his Jerusalem Post readers into thinking that Sharon
was elected on a platform that supported unilateral withdrawal - a central
issue in the campaign - when in point of fact Sharon strongly opposed and
ridiculed unilateral withdrawal and roundly defeated the Labor Party that
supported unilateral withdrawal.
Contrary to Asa-El's claims that Landau is a blind ideologue, Minister Uzi
Landau voted in favor of the Jordan-Israel peace treaty while (ideologue?)
Sharon did not. Landau has also repeatedly stated for the record that he
would accept compromise within the context of a peace agreement.]
Part #1 Distributed on 29 May 2004
Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
"Fortunately for him, Suslov died in 1982, well before all he defended
unraveled. Will Landau be as privileged? And must we sit idly by until we
find out? " Amotz Asa-El - The Jerusalem Post 28 May 2004
IMRA: The hysteria over the decision of the Likud membership to reaffirm
their support for Ariel Sharon's election campaign platform against
unilateral withdrawal in the recent referendum reached new heights with the
conclusion of the Amotz Asa El's column:
Middle Israel: Mikhail Suslov returns
Amotz Asa-El The Jerusalem Post May 28, 2004
www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=108562
9658074&p=1006953079897
[complete article at the bottom]
It remains to be seen if the editors of The Jerusalem Post will take
corrective action (the Attorney General can be expected to argue that
Asa-El's call is subject to interpretation).
Part # 2 Initial response:
From: Bret Stephens
To: Dr. Aaron Lerner
Sent: Saturday, 29 May, 2004 23:00
Subject: Jerusalem Post Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
Aaron, don't be ridiculous.
Part #3 Response from Lerner:
From: Dr. Aaron Lerner
To: Bret Stephens
Sent: Saturday, 29 May, 2004 23:12
Subject: Jerusalem Post Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
Your cavalier attitude frankly disturbs me.
Bret,
In all due respect, before you walk away from this imagine if this were an
article appearing on Feiglin's Manhigut Yehudit website and it was talking
about Sharon and it ended with a similar sentence?
Actually, we do not have to imagine anything.
A considerably milder sentence in an article a few weeks ago on Feiglin's
website caused a media circus with Minister Livnat asking for an
investigation by the Attorney General.
True, the Attorney General ultimately ruled that the item could be read in
various ways and thus the case was dropped - but Manhigut Yehudit rushed to
drop the op-ed from their website the moment they heard of the problem.
Your cavalier attitude frankly disturbs me.
I sincerely hope that after giving this more consideration that you see fit
to treat this unacceptable language with the same fervor that you would if
it came from the other camp.
Best regards, Aaron
PS: The Post does censor offensive items. I would note that only a week
ago your newspaper saw fit to refuse to publish a Women In Green cartoon
that showed Peres, Beilin and Arafat dancing together with their hands
drenched in blood
Part #4 Response from Stephens
From: Bret Stephens
To: Dr. Aaron Lerner
Sent: Sunday, 30 May, 2004 00:47
Subject: Re: From Lerner Please let me know if you have anything more to
include in item besides "Aaron, don't be ridiculous."
Aaron, I'm on holiday, and trying to enjoy it. Amotz was plainly not calling
for anybody to be killed. I don't see how any fair-minded reader could read
the sentence that way.
A fair-minded reader would take the following from Amotz's article. To wit:
that while Russians had to wait for the passing of the Suslov generation of
ideologues in order to get the change they sought, Israelis should not have
to wait until the passing of Landau's generation to get the changes Amotz
claims they seek. This is not a call to kill anybody. It's a call for
Israelis to get on with their agenda irrespective of Landau's. In other
words, it's a call to IGNORE Landau.
I'm perfectly willing to exercise my editorial prerogatives to censor
offensive items, such as the Women in Green cartoon you mention. This is not
such an item.
Bret
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Here's the whole IMRA article, which includes a copy of the Asa-El's viscious column:
Sunday, May 30, 2004
Exchange: Jerusalem Post Ed. & IMRA on Column on Min. Landau (http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=21009)
The following is an exchange between Jerusalem Post Editor Bret Stephens and
Aaron Lerner - IMRA. It should be noted that Amotz Asa-El is executive
editor of The Jerusalem Post. Besides the puzzling line, the article is
chock-a-bloc with barefaced lies that raise serious questions as to the
ability of Asa-El to differentiate between his ideological beliefs and
reality.
Asa-El tries to deceive his Jerusalem Post readers into thinking that Sharon
was elected on a platform that supported unilateral withdrawal - a central
issue in the campaign - when in point of fact Sharon strongly opposed and
ridiculed unilateral withdrawal and roundly defeated the Labor Party that
supported unilateral withdrawal.
Contrary to Asa-El's claims that Landau is a blind ideologue, Minister Uzi
Landau voted in favor of the Jordan-Israel peace treaty while (ideologue?)
Sharon did not. Landau has also repeatedly stated for the record that he
would accept compromise within the context of a peace agreement.]
Part #1 Distributed on 29 May 2004
Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
"Fortunately for him, Suslov died in 1982, well before all he defended
unraveled. Will Landau be as privileged? And must we sit idly by until we
find out? " Amotz Asa-El - The Jerusalem Post 28 May 2004
IMRA: The hysteria over the decision of the Likud membership to reaffirm
their support for Ariel Sharon's election campaign platform against
unilateral withdrawal in the recent referendum reached new heights with the
conclusion of the Amotz Asa El's column:
Middle Israel: Mikhail Suslov returns
Amotz Asa-El The Jerusalem Post May 28, 2004
www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=108562
9658074&p=1006953079897
[complete article at the bottom]
It remains to be seen if the editors of The Jerusalem Post will take
corrective action (the Attorney General can be expected to argue that
Asa-El's call is subject to interpretation).
Part # 2 Initial response:
From: Bret Stephens
To: Dr. Aaron Lerner
Sent: Saturday, 29 May, 2004 23:00
Subject: Jerusalem Post Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
Aaron, don't be ridiculous.
Part #3 Response from Lerner:
From: Dr. Aaron Lerner
To: Bret Stephens
Sent: Saturday, 29 May, 2004 23:12
Subject: Jerusalem Post Columnist Calls For Assasination of Min. Uzi Landau?
Your cavalier attitude frankly disturbs me.
Bret,
In all due respect, before you walk away from this imagine if this were an
article appearing on Feiglin's Manhigut Yehudit website and it was talking
about Sharon and it ended with a similar sentence?
Actually, we do not have to imagine anything.
A considerably milder sentence in an article a few weeks ago on Feiglin's
website caused a media circus with Minister Livnat asking for an
investigation by the Attorney General.
True, the Attorney General ultimately ruled that the item could be read in
various ways and thus the case was dropped - but Manhigut Yehudit rushed to
drop the op-ed from their website the moment they heard of the problem.
Your cavalier attitude frankly disturbs me.
I sincerely hope that after giving this more consideration that you see fit
to treat this unacceptable language with the same fervor that you would if
it came from the other camp.
Best regards, Aaron
PS: The Post does censor offensive items. I would note that only a week
ago your newspaper saw fit to refuse to publish a Women In Green cartoon
that showed Peres, Beilin and Arafat dancing together with their hands
drenched in blood
Part #4 Response from Stephens
From: Bret Stephens
To: Dr. Aaron Lerner
Sent: Sunday, 30 May, 2004 00:47
Subject: Re: From Lerner Please let me know if you have anything more to
include in item besides "Aaron, don't be ridiculous."
Aaron, I'm on holiday, and trying to enjoy it. Amotz was plainly not calling
for anybody to be killed. I don't see how any fair-minded reader could read
the sentence that way.
A fair-minded reader would take the following from Amotz's article. To wit:
that while Russians had to wait for the passing of the Suslov generation of
ideologues in order to get the change they sought, Israelis should not have
to wait until the passing of Landau's generation to get the changes Amotz
claims they seek. This is not a call to kill anybody. It's a call for
Israelis to get on with their agenda irrespective of Landau's. In other
words, it's a call to IGNORE Landau.
I'm perfectly willing to exercise my editorial prerogatives to censor
offensive items, such as the Women in Green cartoon you mention. This is not
such an item.
Bret
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