everyone download this now (SNL anti france commercial)

[alexbmn]

This is the now famous SNL anti France commercial.
http://bigbuttonscorp.com/snlfrance.mpg
Hits the mark perfectly

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by alexbmn
Hits the mark perfectly
Vive Le France!
:D

[takeo]

:D

Did i just see some hatefull and racist anti-French propaganda inciting to hate and violence against the French race unsanctioned by us- or israeli autorities?

[takeo]

apparently anti-french or anti-arab hatred seems to be funny while anti-israeli hatred is not...

http://www.zoa.org/pubs/cartoon1.pdf

[Mediocrates]

turnabout is fair play - life is hard, get a helmet.

[gregg]

downloaded it, just wish quality was better.

[Belgium@EU]

Just a load of BS. It's not true. But if you guys think it's funny, ok for me. As long as i can laugh with my "anti-semite" cartoons.

[Evolution]

You guys are being stupid. Surely if racism is wrong, then its all wrong, or its all not. You cannot make or promote anti Arab/Muslim or anti French opinions and then complian when an anti Jewish/Israeli opinion is expressed.

Seriously, level out.

What is Israel planning to do, take on France?

Hahahahahahahahaha!

France is a global power, a major economic and political force. A military strongman and has great influence over lots of the Arab/world in general.

Israel's whining is both unfounded, and secondly irrelevant regards the French.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Evolution
Israel's whining is both unfounded, and secondly irrelevant regards the French.
Yep... More than 360 anti-Semitic attacks in France so far this year alone... Unfounded and irrelevant, right?

Oh, and a little reminder, Saturday Night Live is one of the most popular comedy shows in the US, reflecting American humor, and has nothing to do with Israel as you apparently think.

Many Americans dislike the French for a variety of reasons, none of which racial.

It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US) and being perceived as cowardly and lacking principles, French arrogance as perceived by many Americans, Francophiles' campaign against all things American, trade disputes between the US and France, Perceived French snobbery, and rudeness to many American tourists who visit France.

Believe me, I've also heard French commentary about the US, which shows an equal amount of disdain on a national basis. The average American is aware of this disdain.

[Evolution]

The average American is unaware of were France is, or infact that there is a land outside the US borders.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Evolution
The average American is unaware of were France is, or infact that there is a land outside the US borders.
That's what some Europeans or Asians would like to believe.

The fact is that for many Americans it's just a matter that they don't care about these other counrties one way or the other. I know, difficult for some Europeans to accept, because it negates their illusions of grandeur.

If Europeans want to gain more interest of Americans, they need to urge their governments to act like civilized nations and not in embarrasingly biased ways, like in the case of the existing heavy pro-Arab bias for example.

[christian]

Originally posted by NewsGuy

Yep... More than 360 anti-Semitic attacks in France so far this year alone... Unfounded and irrelevant, right?

Oh, and a little reminder, Saturday Night Live is one of the most popular comedy shows in the US, reflecting American humor, and has nothing to do with Israel as you apparently think.

Many Americans dislike the French for a variety of reasons, none of which racial.

It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US) and being perceived as cowardly and lacking principles, French arrogance as perceived by many Americans, Francophiles' campaign against all things American, trade disputes between the US and France, Perceived French snobbery, and rudeness to many American tourists who visit France.

Believe me, I've also heard French commentary about the US, which shows an equal amount of disdain on a national basis. The average American is aware of this disdain.


The reason the France is a pain in the neck for American. Well. Guess what? They never participate your cowboy adventures.
If they do, they are doing for the sake of Nato.

"
It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US) and being perceived as cowardly and lacking principles, "


What do you mean siding with Nazi germany? France is fighting with NAZI regime at the begining. Not to mention US, US supports the Nazi germany. Let me tell you a dark history of US. I don't think you know the real history of US,
since Jewish people dominates as a leader in every field in US.


http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BONES.HTM


Skulls and Bones are founded in Yale. It is a german origin. George Bush father Prescott Bush is making money for selling weapons to nazi's and allies. They knew about the jewish slaugthering. They are interested in money, rather than the slaugther house in Austwiz.

[takeo]

That's very right christian. Moreover, more than 3 times as many French died fighting the nazi's as Americans.

"It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US) and being perceived as cowardly and lacking principles, French arrogance as perceived by many Americans, Francophiles' campaign against all things American, trade disputes between the US and France, Perceived French snobbery, and rudeness to many American tourists who visit France. "

we hate the US for global arrogance, rudeness in the way it treats many other countries, cowardly (only participate in a war when they know for sure a minimum of Americans will die, for this reason they prefere massive bombing of civilian populations) and lacking any principles, exept making money. Moreover the US bias in the benefit israel and other oppressing regimes makes the world angry.
About those tourists, they come here with busloads, are very load and fat and total lacking good manners, go to the local mc Donald's and don't speak a word of French, drink too much, but hey as long as they spend money nobody is complaining. It reminds me those Americans in Monterrey who go there to behave like a pig because in the states they can't drink before the age of 21... in fact there is more reseblance to us and SA... both resisted sex education in the un... both are hypocrit, i get to understand why the us and SA are allies for more than 70 years.

of course i want to mention that not all Americans are fitting in this definition, only about 75%.

[Mediocrates]

"How can you be expected to govern a country that has 246 kinds of cheese?"

-Charles de Gaulle

[Belgium@EU]

Originally posted by NewsGuy



If Europeans want to gain more interest of Americans, they need to urge their governments to act like civilized nations and not in embarrasingly biased ways, like in the case of the existing heavy pro-Arab bias for example.

Have you ever seen your own President; he's a satire on the word president. I didn't know that much stupidity could come out of the mouth of one man, but now I'm convinced.

May God bless America. What stupid remark is this? What does the bible say: rule 5 : Thou shall not kill (even as revenge). What are the Americans doing : capital punishment ... I have no problems with that in particular, but than don't say your nation is suported by god. It's ruled by a lunatic who didn't even know where Chechnya was, that there was a difference between Slovenia and Slovakia (yeah that's in Yurop, how do you spell it again)?

If there's on GOV't on this planet, which is embarassing, than it's yours! You didn't even have a president you voted for ! En France on dit : coup de theatre. Banana-republic ...

It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US) and being perceived as cowardly and lacking principles, "

Man you are educated. Nazi was an Enemy of the US, after Pearl Harbor, after Belgian and French soldiers were already defeated and killed in an inhumane way. We were not cowardly, there were exceptions, but what would you do if Russian troops were marching next to the white house up to Capital Hill. Would you be so stupid to fight back? Ofcourse, we can not blame you Americans, because the only war you guys had on your soil was against your own people. WWI? When did US help. After 1917. WWII? They helped us after they were bombed themselves. That's history!

[Evolution]

I knew there was a reason I loved the European ppl, there brilliant sense of humour and topical awareness makes a refreshing change.

GW.Bush is certainly a bufoon and no statesmen the calibre of Chirac or Bellisconi, or Blair.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Evolution
GW.Bush is certainly a bufoon and no statesmen the calibre of Chirac or Bellisconi, or Blair.
Well, to rise to the fine quality of President Chirac, one would have to be a hypocritical oil-slave, support terrorist groups like Hizbullah, initiate biased UN security council resolutions, be soft on anti-Semitism, be soft on French-Arab domestic crime, and have several sexual affairs while being married. Only then can one be eligible to lead the French people, apparently.

Maybe Bush does not meet the standards for Europeans, and maybe he is even criticised by some Americans, but I would choose him any day over the likes of Abu Chirac.

[sitruc37diesel]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU

May God bless America. What stupid remark is this? What does the bible say: rule 5 : Thou shall not kill (even as revenge). What are the Americans doing : capital punishment ... I have no problems with that in particular, but than don't say your nation is suported by god.


I take it you're not a religious person. George Bush is or at least claims to be. By saying "May God Bless America" he is asking God to bless America. He is not saying that God has blessed America in some kind of exclusive way.

But I am interested that you brought up the 5th Commandment. Some say that it is properly translated as "You shall not murder." Maybe. One of the hugest points Jesus brought up was that forgiveness is critical. Revenge is the opposite of forgiveness. Jesus said that you must forgive or you will not be forgiven. And Paul has something to say on revenge as well:

Romans 12:17-21
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Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.
On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
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Don't think this means that I think that there's never any justification for acts of war. Its just that I can only think of 2 reasons for them:

-acts of war for PREVENTION of future danger
-acts of war in VENGEANCE

and I am up the firm opinion that only the former is ever valid. and even then it is often overdone.

Praise be to God for the wisdom he had people write down for us.

(Similar Old Testament references: Deuteronomy 32:35, Proverbs 25:21,22)

[Evolution]

With all due respect, the Jewish faith regards non Jews as sub-human, its in there Talmud. I'll find the reference ASAP.

GWB is a fool, lacks the charisma and intelligenece of the European leaders. The most charismatic leader in the world may well be Blair, although Musharraf and Ghaddafi can be articulate. :)

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Evolution
With all due respect, the Jewish faith regards non Jews as sub-human, its in there Talmud. I'll find the reference ASAP.
With all due respect, that is absolutely false and ridiculous. I think that you are confusing the Koran's passages of hatred and racism with the Torah's doctrine of all people being created in God's image.

It looks like you were greatly misled at your Friday prayer mosque incitement sessions. You should immediately demand a refund from the Mulah who told you those things about Jews.

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by NewsGuy

With all due respect, that is absolutely false and ridiculous. I think that you are confusing the Koran's passages of hatred and racism with the Torah's doctrine of all people being created in God's image.

It looks like you were greatly misled at your Friday prayer mosque incitement sessions. You should immediately demand a refund from the Mulah who told you those things about Jews.

Better yet, convert. Why settle for second best?

[sitruc37diesel]

Originally posted by NewsGuy

With all due respect, that is absolutely false and ridiculous. I think that you are confusing the Koran's passages of hatred and racism with the Torah's doctrine of all people being created in God's image.


I'm Christian but i bought a Koran a little while ago to see what was in it. So far I haven't read anything racist. I have read some negative things about some Jews in it, but from a religious standpoint and not a racial one. If anyone could tell me where to find verses of racism and hatred in the Koran, I'd be much obliged. And if you've never read these things in the Koran yourself, then do not say that the Koran says them.

I have heard very negative things about the Talmud. So I went to Barnes and Noble, the same place I got my koran, to see if I could get a Talmud. Nope. There were lots of Korans but no Talmuds. Can anybody tell me why this is? I heard that the Talmud encourages Jews to lie to non-jews and that it says that Jesus is boiling in semen in hell. I really don't want to believe this. Could someone please dispell these myths for me?

[alexbmn]

this is what I love the most.Europeans will not allow the US to extradite terrorists because of the possibility that those killers will be executed ,but they have NO PROBLEM at all when Palestinian "freedom fighters" torture and lynch so called "colloborators" who's crime was to disagree with Arafat. Where's the outcry about slavery in Sudan,the treatment of non Muslims and women in Saudi Arabia? Well you see those poor countries are under American and Zionist,Imperialist yoke ,they can do no wrong in the eyes of enlightened European leftists. Ater all the idea that terrorists must be defeated through military action is "simplisme" in the eyes of the depraved French.Europeans put much more stock in treaties.Hey did you know that in 1929 Europeans oulawed war.Yes Germany signed too.

[alexbmn]

the funniest thing is when people quote the bible as their main source for an anti death penalty argument. "Do not kill" is part of the ten commandments in the Torah and Torah specifically says that murderers are to be put to death. Case closed.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by alexbmn
Where's the outcry about slavery in Sudan,the treatment of non Muslims and women in Saudi Arabia?
Never a peep from the Europeans, because the Arabs control their European oil-slaves very tightly.

But in truth, the US has not done better in confronting Arab and Islamic violations of human rights and crimes against humanity.

The world's economies run on oil, not on human rights.

[Skogan]

cowardly (only participate in a war when they know for sure a minimum of Americans will die,

Odd, coming from a country that has a legion of foreigners it pays to do its fighting for it. Outside of exploiting poor foreigners to die for a cause you believe in, what is the non-cowardly explaination the french give for their Foreign Legion?

[kauffner]

Originally posted by NewsGuy
Many Americans dislike the French for a variety of reasons, none of which racial. It has to do with France's siding with Nazi Germany (enemy of the US)
I think Americans understood that everyone had to make compromises at that time. If you listen to the anti-French jokes of say, Jay Leno, they are about the French surrendering very quickly, not about the French being pro-Nazi.

America was generally pro-French in the 1950s and early 1960s. Everyone was charmed by Jacqueline Kennedy's interest in French fashion and ability to speak French. Anti-French sentiment came to prominence when de Gaulle expelled U.S. troops and proclaimed France to be the "third force," i.e. a rival to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Americans thought this behavior was ungrateful after so many Americans had died to liberate France. De Gaulle's arrogant and abrasive personality soon came to be thought of as stereotypically French.

At least until the last few months, the U.S. had quite a few Francophiles (e.g. Hillary Clinton) and anti-French sentiment was mostly just kidding around. It's only very recently that it has become a serious political issue. In France, anti-Americanism has become so ingrained that it's not even controversial; it's a part of French identity. They kick the U.S. off the U.N. Human Rights Commission and create the militarily useless Euroforce just for the sheer joy of annoying Americans.