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Kev
06-24-2004, 06:40 PM
Russian Muslim Leader Suggests Punishing Terrorists’ Families (http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1158535/posts)



Posted on 06/23/2004 6:05:44 AM PDT by veronica


Deputy leader of the Central Muslim spiritual directorate of Russia, Muhammadghali Khuzin, has suggested introducing punishment for the relatives of terrorists, Interfax news agency reported Wednesday.

“Each terrorist who goes to kill people, must know that his immediate family will pay for his deeds, too,” he was quoted by the agency as saying.

Khuzin said that if terrorists “do not care a straw for the lives of other people”, they must know that people close to them will become social outcasts. “We sometimes face the situation when a mother who reared five robbers and murderers receives privileges and grants as a mother of five children.”

He was quoted by the agency as saying that the relatives of terrorist and of people connected with terrorism must be deprived by law of all kinds of rights and privileges within the frameworks of social, pension and other monetary benefits.

Khuzin also greeted the idea to ban the ideology of Wahhabism proposed earlier by Deputy Prosecutor General Vladimir Kolesnikov.

“Wahhabism must be forbidden in Russia, and wahhabites and their accomplices must be called to strict account,” Khuzin was quoted by the agency as saying.

Wahhabism is a Muslim puritan movement. The members reject all acts implying polytheism, including the veneration of saints, and advocate a return to the original teachings of Islam as found in the Qu’ran and the Hadith. They supported the establishment of a Muslim state based on Islamic canon law.

Adopted by the ruling Saudi family in 1744, the movement controlled all of Nejd by the end of the 18th century. It was assured of dominance on the Arabian Peninsula with the creation of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932, and in the 20th century-supported by Saudi wealth — it engaged in widespread missionary work throughout the Islamic world.









:D


I'd still take it a step further mind you.

Mediocrates
06-24-2004, 06:49 PM
Nice Guys:

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David_in_NYC
06-24-2004, 07:42 PM
These people are tribal cultures. Taking out one family, leaving the tribe intact, is equivalent to a slap on the wrist. If you are going to punish collectively (and I admit that while it is distasteful, the Islamofascists have essentially forced us to resort to measures we wouldn't use in a conflict with civilized people), you must get the tribe in its entirety. When other tribes see that one member of a tribe involved in terrorism ends the existence of the tribe, we will see some effective measures in teaching their tribe's members that terror is something they must not do.

takeo
06-25-2004, 07:10 PM
I don't think family members or "tribe-members" should be punished for the crimes of others (that's exactly what Stalin did in Chechnia) but however ThIS is an excellent idea:

“Wahhabism must be forbidden in Russia, and wahhabites and their accomplices must be called to strict account,” Khuzin was quoted by the agency as saying.

chechnians are like Russians, really, it's that damn Arab-imported ideology which brought so much misery.

we should do the same in France, and besides this also ban all abusive, fundamentalist (not only muslim but equally the christian and jewish ones) and racist ideologies.

KSO
06-26-2004, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by takeo
I don't think family members or "tribe-members" should be punished for the crimes of others (that's exactly what Stalin did in Chechnia) but however ThIS is an excellent idea:



chechnians are like Russians, really, it's that damn Arab-imported ideology which brought so much misery.

we should do the same in France, and besides this also ban all abusive, fundamentalist (not only muslim but equally the christian and jewish ones) and racist ideologies.
Well it is probably a mix of local conflict and imported ideas, there are more than 20 million Muslims in Russia, and only a small group of the 1 million Chechens is fighting against Russia, but those who read about the leader of Chechen Wahabites Shamil Basayev you can understand he is not to religious, I believe that like all the players in the chechnia war they use religion and nationalism for the economic reasons of the war.

takeo
06-26-2004, 03:59 AM
exactly

But of course many members of this forum would prefere to hear that all Muslims are savage babykillers