Right wing is preparing its usual response to the separation plan

[sharonbn]

Yesha Rabbis slam Shin Bet warnings as 'incitement'

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/447505.html

Rabbi Daniel Shilo, spokesman of the Committee of Yesha Rabbis of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Monday slammed as "incitement, rebellion, and stirring up fights" a warning by the head of the Shin Bet that there were growing signs of extremism among opponents of the government's disengagement initiative.

Shilo also said that when the civil rights of settlers are trampled by the government which first sent them to the settlements, one could expect "irregular responses."

Shin Bet Director Avraham Dichter delivered the warning during a Sunday cabinet meeting. Cabinet minister Gideon Ezra, responding to Dichter's remaarks, said Monday that security forces should track down in advance potentially violent opponents of disengagement, and keep them from carrying out "insane acts."

According to Israel Radio, Dichter quoted an unnamed figure well-acquainted with rightist militants as having told him, "Not until there is a dead body will unity emerge from the closet," a comment that some linked to the 1995 assassination of Yitzhak Rabin by a right-wing Israeli opposed to his peace moves.

"We would not be hearing these things from the head of the Shin Bet had it not been for what happened to prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, of blessed memory," Ezra, a former senior Shin Bet official, said in remarks broadcast Monday.

I guess PM Sharon will now need bullet proof vest ...

[Oh Jerusalem]

The usual leftist lynching.

Dichter is warning us how the situation is leading to bloodshed.

Great work on the job, boys! Only about a 1000 dead in the last 4 years.

But keep on pointing in the opposite direction. Governments kill. It's a fact. We'll just ahve to live with it.

[sharonbn]

Marzel: Community stirring, not all under control

24 hours after Head of Shaback, Avi Dichter, delivered his report on alarming trend in the extreme right wing, Baruch Marzel, right wing activist, tells Ynet that he's not sure everyone are under control in his camp.

Marzel: "I am very afraid of what is to come. I am not sure everything is under control. The situation looks not good and Dichter's wards are not arbitrary."

Ynet reports that seven closed conventions were held by extreme right wing groups. An open convention was held last Thursday with the press. In these conventions, civil rebellion was discussed.

Marzel on the closed forums: "I felt I was the moderate factor there. The people are 'hotter' than myself. I am looking for a realistic way to fight for our cause. There is a mixture of factors here that create a ticking bomb."

Marzel added: "The people in these forums have completely lost all faith in the public political system. In fact, anyone who attempted to suggest an operation using democratic channels was turned down. I have a feeling that after we won the survey on the separation plan and Sharon ignored this result - he broke the democratic rules and now we need to fight by whatever means are left for us.

Marzal added that all kinds of violent actions were proposed in the conventions. PM Sharon was descried as having stabbed the settlers in the back and betrayed them. The people spoke of a plan for civil rebellion within six months.

It should be noted that only a handful of Gush Katif settlers attended these conventions.

* transated from Ynet.

[Oh Jerusalem]

An open convention was held last Thursday with the press.
Anyone read about this last Friday? Hear about it on the radio? See a report about it on TV?

Other than Marzel, how many people showed up at this convention?

Anyway, the JPost has a detailed report on Dichter's blurbs:

Yesha challenges Dichter on incitement report (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1088910686240&apage=1)
By HERB KEINON AND DAN IZENBERG

Strong reactions on the left and right of the political spectrum Monday to a report delivered by Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter to the cabinet a day earlier, which claimed that extremism amongst the right wing was on the rise. The Knesset will hold a special hearing Tuesday on the issue of incitement to violence.

Dichter told the cabinet that of late he is troubled by an increase in extremism among the extreme Jewish right wing.

The 'Peace Now' political activism group on Monday blamed elements in the extreme right of a "well-coordinated and timed incitement." According to Peace Now, settlers are attempting to turn the evacuation of settlements in the Gaza Strip into a "national trauma" and spread threats of civil war.

Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter needs to appear immediately before the Knesset Defense and Foreign Affairs Committee to clarify and expand his comments regarding the rise of extremism on the right ahead of the Gaza withdrawal, MK Uri Ariel (National Union) said Monday. Ariel said Dichter has to clarify his remarks in order to stop a "tragedy" from happening in the country.

Rabbi Daniel Shilo, chairman of the rabbinical committee of Judea and Samaria settlements, said that in his view, the kind of comments attributed to the right wing are also heard in equal measure "from people on the other side, including people who hold high positions in the government."

"When the head of the Shabak says that there are signs, warnings and indications that extremism is on the rise, but there is no evidence, no concrete information, I expect him [Avi Dichter] to either show the evidence, or demand that some people be brought to justice. If he cannot do this he must stop spreading rumors, because then he too finds himself on the borders of incitement and mutiny between different sections of the nation. It is totally unacceptable to me that the head of the Shabak speaks out in this manner," Shilo told Israel Radio. "Either he has concrete evidence, or he keeps quiet."

Shilo said that outgoing Judea and Samaria Police chief Shachar Ayalon has expressed certainty that there will be no violent resistance to outpost removal. "There will be no firing of guns," Shilo clarified. Shilo said that when settler leaders and rabbis talk of resisting evacuation, they mean "determined, passive political resistance."

"The removal of people from their homes, homes they have lived in for decades, homes which the government sent them to and encouraged them to build, is a base violation of their civil rights. Therefore one should not be surprised to find "non-compliant responses" amongst some those who have been judged so harshly by this government. This is to be expected," Shilo said.

Deputy Public Security Minister Gideon Ezra, former deputy head of the GSS, said Monday that immediate steps had to be taken against extremist elements. Ezra said that there were those on the right who were liable to misinterpret recent statements by rabbis and act in irresponsible and "insane" ways.

Ezra said that security forces should identify and act against potentially violent opponents of the disengagement plan, and keep them from carrying out "insane acts," Israel Radio reported.

Resistance to the unilateral disengagement plan is legitimate, but only if that resistance is carried out in democratic ways, NRP chairman MK Effi Eitam said Sunday. "If the Shabak has information about extremists - either from the left or the right – who are endangering the safety and security of the people, then the Shabak and the police should arrest them immediately and remove the dark cloud hanging over the entire nation," Eitam told Israel Radio.

"But to sweep a a large section of the public and its leaders who are opposed to disengagement into a situation of sanctions against free speech, is a grave step," Eitam added.

Labor MK Amram Mitzna said that the rise in extremism on the right was a direct result of the timetable set out for the disengagement plan, which according to Mitzna, will take too long and give right wing groups time to organize effective resistance. Mitzna added that the government couldn't ignore the comments made by right wing rabbis and former Netanyahu bureau chief Uri Elitzur, virulently against the disengagement plan.

Attorney General Menachem Mazuz will convene a meeting to discuss government policy about when to prosecute those suspected of incitement to violence and calling on soldiers to disobey orders to evacuate settlements in the context of the disengagement plan, the Justice Ministry announced on Sunday.

The participants will try to determine when such talk constitutes criminal activity, even though the decision to indict is not the sole criteria for determining when it is intolerable.

Mazuz's move comes following the Shin Bet's chief Avi Dichter's appearance before the cabinet where he provided the ministers with a wide-ranging survey of the security situation.

To illustrate the trend, Dichter told the cabinet of a Lt.-Col. who was attacked, along with his wife, in Jerusalem's Sanhedria neighborhood by right wing extremists because - as chief rabbi of the central command - he had overseen the dismantling of a Kach affiliated institution in Tapuach earlier in the year.

Another illustration of this extreme trend, he said, was the fact that a border policeman who was involved in the dismantling of an unauthorized settlement outpost remains partially paralyzed in a hospital as a result of being "pushed" during an attempt to dismantle the outpost.

He said that if one listens to the "music" emanating from certain rabbis and settlement leaders, one picks up the sound that it is permissible to use force to prevent the dismantling of settlements. He said there is also a growing de-legitimization of the security forces. Dichter did not mention any names.
Dichter said the government must do more to stem this trend.

Justice Minister Yosef Lapid said it is "no surprise" that the extreme right is behaving in this manner, since the police "did not arrest a former prime minister's bureau chief, who called for wounding soldiers who take part in settlement evacuation."

Lapid was referring to Uri Elitzur, longtime settlement leader and former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu's bureau chief, who recently condoned violence - short of taking up arms - against those who come to evacuate settlements.

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Imagine Israel was going to evict some arabs from their illegal town. The police reports that their may be violence. Will there be any shock? will the left be upset about how violent the arabs are? would sharonbn be posting about it? Or would the left be screaming at Israel for causing the violence, and what else do you expect if you threaten to throw someone out of their house?

[Oh Jerusalem]

Imagine Israel was going to evict some arabs from their illegal town.
How could you imagine such a thing! The Supreme Court would never allow it. :eek: