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L@mplighterM
05-06-2002, 03:12 PM
http://server12.castup.net/mfa/

L@mplighterM
05-07-2002, 10:29 AM
About this link:

The videos on this site are extremely informative. Explore Islam at its worst (or best?) actual filmed footage of many horrendous events. This site will give the viewers an insight into Islam and it’s teachings.

Engima
05-16-2002, 08:48 PM
I really don't see how these relate to or represent Islam. :confused:

L@mplighterM
05-16-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Engima
I really don't see how these relate to or represent Islam. :confused:

I don't care what you can see !

Engima
05-16-2002, 09:11 PM
Well then the purpose of this thread has been defeated.

Morpheus
05-17-2002, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by L@mplighterM


I don't care what you can see !

I see you like to twist facts, and spread around your own opinion, L@mp. What does this have to do with Islam as a religion?
I didn't know the Israeli gov't started selling propaganda stuff these days ... don't they have more useful things to concentrate on, like international relations?

But you don't care anyway, so just continue spreading worthless facts, biased articles and other propaganda. You don't hear me crying.

Mediocrates
05-17-2002, 11:34 AM
What's wrong with a few agitprop mangled puppy stories? You think Palestinians have a lock on that?

Gee isn't it terrible and oh so against Robert's Rules of Order to put a human face on people murdered for the crime of being Jewish. Next thing you know they'll be interviewing the victims family on TV and NPR. Golly gee Batman who will save us from that? I thought that only 16 year old clinically depressed radicalized women were capable of being dead.

L@mplighterM
05-17-2002, 02:51 PM
The age of anxiety

Avoiding buses and malls, reading a book, keeping the children at home, pampering oneself with new appliances and binging on sweets - these are all ways in which Israelis are coping with the trauma of the home-front war.

By Aviva Lori




"The main thing is not to sit by the entrance, next to the door," says Ben Narubai, a third-year student of industrial design, "and even better is not to leave the house at all. I am not hysterical, but since the terrorist attack in Tel Aviv, which happened a hundred meters from where I live, I have hardly gone out. I visit friends, friends visit me, we drink beer or we go to small, inconspicuous places. Before the suicide attack on Allenby Street, I used to go to all the hottest places in town.

"I have a friend who likes to frequent Shesek, a pub on Lillienblum Street. I asked him how come he is still going there. He said, `because all they have is a door, there are no glass walls, and I sit inside, so if a terrorist comes, by the time he reaches me, I will be able to get away.' As far as I am concerned, going out to any public place is not on the agenda since the attack on Allenby Street. I don't go to restaurants and I don't sit outside in cafes. Mostly I stay home and watch television."

Narubai, 26, is one of many whose routine way of life, once taken for granted, has evaporated. At first it was like a bad dream, but after a year and half of intifada and a few consecutive weeks of terrorist attacks, when the nightmare became painful reality and the recent reality seemed to turn into an unreal fantasy, Narubai has started to look for alternatives. His current life is very consciously planned and demarcated within the boundaries of the new semantics: before and now - before the terrorist attacks and now, after them.

"Before, on the way home, I used to drive between the stalls at the end of the Carmel Market. Now I don't go that way," he says. "I don't take any kind of risks. Before I used to drive without thinking, but now, if I find myself between two buses, I suddenly tell myself that I could be blown up. Not long ago I was thinking what life was like before the intifada, how I would go around Tel Aviv happy as a lark, sit in pubs until four in the morning, drink, get a bit high, not caring about a thing, and then go home and pick up some bourekas on the way. I don't do that anymore these days. All the freedom and fun of this city are gone. When I go outside now the idea is to spend as little time as possible there and get home as fast as I can."

Home has become the castle and haven for many Israelis of all ages and in many places. Some of them are not ashamed to admit to a dramatic rise in their private fear quotient. If in the Gulf War there was an unwritten agreement between the home front and Saddam Hussein that the Scud missiles would be launched only after dark, thus making it relatively safe to be outside during the daylight hours, now there is no such certainty. The whole country has become a high-risk zone and wherever you go, you find people who feel confused, disoriented and helpless, people whose lives - and the lives of their loved ones - seem to have lurched out of control.

In the absence of clear instructions, the home front is waging its own private war of survival. Among the many people who were interviewed for this article, the women reported anxieties and fears, along with significant changes in the way they and their families conduct their lives. The men, in contrast, reported a variety of reactions. Some said they are not afraid and have not made any changes in their routine. One said that he is afraid, but nevertheless is continuing to follow his normal routine. Another said he is afraid, but because of his children. One man spoke of a certain level of anxiety that he has been able to conceal from those in his immediate surroundings. Only two men confirmed without reservations that they fear the worst and have changed their way of life considerably. Welcome to the land of "before" and "now." Here's what others are doing and avoiding to cope with the "situation."



Complete article:


http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=164593&contrassID=2&subContrassID=5&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y&itemNo=164593

L@mplighterM
05-17-2002, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Engima
Well then the purpose of this thread has been defeated.

As long as an Arab squawks about a thread then I know that I did the right posting it.

Thank you Morpheus and Engima you made my day.

Morpheus
05-17-2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by L@mplighterM



Thank you Morpheus and Engima you made my day.


You must be the troll of the forum, not? :D