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L@mplighterM
05-08-2002, 08:11 PM
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JustPat
05-12-2002, 07:58 PM
Terrorists, if you can't eat 'em, join 'em - NOT! You got to love how students still being educated have the wisdom to know who to support and why. :( Perhaps when they awake from their stupor and the hemp cloud clears they will be able to see more clearly the truth that currently eludes them.

AmericaNumber1
05-14-2002, 02:36 PM
Anti-Israel sentiment is going to continue to grow as long as the perception of 'Bully' continues to be associated with Israel in the current Israel vs. Palestine conflict. The idea that Israel is 100% without fault is fuel. It's becoming common knowledge that a "Jewish State" was backed by a giant that "arabs" couldn't control. Therefore, Israel has this "were bigger than thou" attitude that proliferates academic campuses. Add to that, the "were gods chosen" ideaology and you have a monster that's finally rearing it's ugly head, even more so when you consider the anti-religious mentality young people have.

Instead of "defending", educate. College students are some of the most open minded people in the world and are willing to hold objective points of view. When you say things like, "Perhaps when they awake from their stupor and the hemp cloud clears"....they're gonna react negatively and defensively and maintain their point-of-view.
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Mediocrates
05-14-2002, 06:56 PM
College students are free to protest whatever they wish. They are free to try on whatever cloak of opinion they wish. They are free to be coopted by whatever forces are around them. That's the incubator of ideas that a college is. That doesn't make it right or logical or fair.

What you describe though is nonsense. For one thing Israel doesn't have a bigger than thou attitude in fact other than a few universities there is probably little to no zionist or Hillel organization activity on college campuses. OTOH Arabs, Muslims and Asians are much more heavily represented both in the students and the faculty. For another thing the groundswell of support that Israel enjoys now in the US comes from middle class suburbia not from young people or colleges. The leftleaning movements in the US abandoned Israel years ago and only the most hardcore Jewish subscribers to Tikkun are active in the antizionist movement in the US in so far as Jews are concerned.

In your university setting have you allowed Jewish speakers to speak, zionists to present? Or have you shouted them down and made vague threats to boycott and disrupt? Is that your free interchange of ideas?

It takes a dialog to be educated and what you have shown is you've made up your own little narrow mind already. So for my effort, time and money and education I'll direct my efforts not at universities but at AIPAC instead. REcen

cerulean
05-14-2002, 07:08 PM
He opposes Chomsky's divestiture drive.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V122/N25/col25dersh.25c.html

JustPat
05-14-2002, 09:28 PM
AN1:
Welcome to the fray.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 Anti-Israel sentiment is going to continue to grow as long as the perception of 'Bully' continues to be associated with Israel in the current Israel vs. Palestine conflict.

Especially when the Media tells no other story. What about the stories of Palestinian atrocities, what of the hundreds of innocent civilians targeted at bus stops, cafes, religious celebrations, and market places? Why is there no out cry when Arafat calls for "a million martyrs to march on Jerusalem?" As long as Israel doesn't get a fair shake the bigotry of the Palestinians will continue to triumph.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 The idea that Israel is 100% without fault is fuel.

Though some in this forum may have that opinion you will not find it to be something you can blanketly apply. The things in which Israel errs get a fair hearing here. Stay tuned.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 It's becoming common knowledge that a "Jewish State" was backed by a giant that "arabs" couldn't control.

In the infamous words of Sgt. Friday, "Give me the facts, just the facts." Feel free to post your sources, please.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 Israel has this "were bigger than thou" attitude that proliferates academic campuses. Add to that, the "were gods chosen" ideaology and you have a monster that's finally rearing it's ugly head, even more so when you consider the anti-religious mentality young people have.

For the sake of discussion, let us suppose that the Bible is as inspired as believers claim, literally from the mouth and heart of G-d to man. Let us consider that Israel actually is right in it's claim to be "G-d's chosen people" and that their claim to the land is accurately based on Abraham's covenant relationship with G-d. That puts the Palestinians and the anti-semites in a very dangerous place, opposing G-d. History, especially those parts of the Bible that are verified as true, has shown G-d not to be too merciful to those who oppose Him. Babylon, the Pharonic Dynasties, the Medo-Persian Empire, the Roman Empire, ... you get the point. If you believe the Bible, (and I do!) Arafat and his accomplices are headed for dangerous territory.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 Instead of "defending", educate. College students are some of the most open minded people in the world and are willing to hold objective points of view.

I agree! Education has been my vocation for 32 years. I am particularly fond of the skeptics. Unfailingly they will follow the truth when honestly presented with the facts. You may want to investigate the official voince of the Palestinian Authority (aka Yasser Arafat) found at http://www.wafa.pna.net/EngText/IndexE.htm Unfortunately, not everyone is interested in the truth.

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1 When you say things like, "Perhaps when they awake from their stupor and the hemp cloud clears"....they're gonna react negatively and defensively and maintain their point-of-view.

I am sorry if the post you quote offended you. If you review takeo's posts you will see that he holds a postion I consider untenable. His "Hold the party line at all costs" mentality inspired my comments. No matter how much credible evidence is presented to him, he continues to spout Palestinian propaganda as if it were truth.

I look forward to your contributions to our discussions.