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Semsem
07-30-2004, 07:16 AM
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Jul. 30, 2004 0:59 | Updated Jul. 30, 2004 9:36
Column One: France - Kerry's Israel problem
By CAROLINE GLICK


The arrival Wednesday morning of a special El Al flight at Ben Gurion airport with 200 French Jews immigrating to Israel was a beautiful thing. As they disembarked, to the buzz of news crews from around the world, the new arrivals broke out in song and dance as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon welcomed our brothers and sisters home. It was enough to turn the greatest cynic into a sobbing idealist.

The scene was significant not simply because every time a Jew moves to Israel we see the Zionist dream come true. It was significant also because it came just a week and a half after Sharon, in a moment of moral leadership and clarity, told the Jews of France, "If I have to advocate to our brothers in France, I will tell them one thing: Move to Israel, as early as possible."

In the first six months of 2004, the French Interior Ministry recorded 510 anti-Jewish attacks or threats. During the whole of 2003, only 563 such incidents were reported. Yet, in the wake of Sharon's call for French Jews to come to Israel, where they will be able to live proudly, if not safely, as Jews, French President Jacques Chirac went ballistic. If there is anything the French hate, it is moral clarity.

Sharon's remarks coincided nicely with France's success in bringing the entire European Union on board in voting for the UN General Assembly resolution condemning the security fence. That resolution was itself founded on the International Court of Justice's ruling that Israel has no right to build the fence to protect ourselves from Palestinian suicide bombers.

It is no coincidence that France was acting in an overtly hostile manner toward the Jewish state when Sharon made his declaration. In recent years, rarely a day has gone by without some French leader doing something to make common cause with those devoted to the annihilation of the Jewish state.

From the French ambassador to Britain's statement calling Israel a "sh-tty little country," to former French Prime Minister Michel Rocard's declaration that the creation of Israel was "a mistake", to its persistent support of Arafat despite mountains of evidence implicating him as a current and active mastermind of terror, France has made it plain that it is an opponent, not an ally, in the Arab-Muslim war to destroy us. So yes, it was sweet to see 200 Jews telling us that they see their future here and not in France.

The problem with France is not simply that one in five French citizens voted for an avowed Holocaust-denier in the last election. Nor is it just that almost every week we hear another story about a synagogue torched, a rabbi beaten, a Jewish cemetery or Holocaust memorial defaced with swastikas or Jewish children terrorized on the subway or on their way to Hebrew school. Nor is it that France hates Israel. The French hating Israel is nothing that keeps anyone here awake at night.

The problem with France, rather, is that it has appointed itself arbiter of global justice, and in so doing inserted itself as a key factor in the US presidential race.

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Senator John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, has made his objections to Bush administration's foreign policy a defining issue of his candidacy. During this week's Democratic national convention in Boston, speaker after speaker took to the podium and declared that under a Kerry presidency, the US would not act "unilaterally." A Washington Post analysis of Kerry's basic message to American voters noted that Kerry's major theme is a "restoration" of US positions during the 1990's under the Clinton administration.

As former Clinton administration official and current Kerry foreign policy adviser Richard Holbrooke put it to the Post, the Bush administration advocated "extremist ideas" that had "never had a voice in the policymaking bodies of the executive branch." One such idea, the Post paraphrased, was "acting unilaterally." But what does "acting unilaterally" mean? It does not mean "going it alone." After all, there are several dozen other countries actively involved in US operations in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan.

Neither does "acting unilaterally" mean that in Iraq the US is acting outside of a clear UN Security Council mandate. Ahead of the US-led operations in Kosovo in 1999, in which Holbrooke played a key role, Russia used the threat of its Security Council veto to prevent the US from taking action under a UN umbrella. Yet no one has ever accused the US of acting unilaterally in Kosovo.

What "acting unilaterally" actually means to Holbrooke and Kerry is that the multilateral coalition Bush assembled in Iraq does not include France. It was France that prevented a UN Security Council resolution backing the US-led invasion, and it was France that led the EU and NATO to reject US requests to forge coalitions under whose aegis the US would lead the war against Saddam's regime.

With its UN Security Council veto, its membership in NATO and its leading position in the EU, France has fashioned itself the indispensable ally for Eurocentric Americans. This it has done in spite of the fact that France has opposed almost every single US foreign policy initiative since September 11. Yet, in spite of France's overt hostility, administration critics still believe that the US cannot garner a politically palatable coalition for action on the international stage without French involvement.

One of the truly disturbing aspects of France's success in so positioning itself is that the veneer of respectability of a French-approved coalition is so thick that even when such coalitions fail abysmally, no one seems to notice. Thus, according to a recently released report by Human Rights Watch, it was the French forces who were most responsible for NATO-led Kosovo force's decision to remain garrisoned as thousands of Kosovar Christians were evicted from their homes and villages by Albanian Muslims even as they were begged to come forward and protect these minorities. But who's noticing?

It is hard to know precisely what a Kerry presidency would hold in store for Israel specifically.
Yes, it is true that he seems to pay inordinate respect to outspoken Israel-bashers such as former President Jimmy Carter and Carter's National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski. Then again, Bush appointed the harshly anti-Israel Marine General Anthony Zinni to be his Middle East mediator shortly after assuming office.

Yes, it is true that Kerry seems determined on forcing Israel back to the negotiating table with Arafat and using Dennis Ross and Martin Indyk as his emissaries in spite of the colossal failure of every policy the two men advocated during the Clinton presidency. But Bush has adopted the Road Map, which formally, if not practically, gives the EU, Russia and the UN the status of arbiters in the Palestinian conflict with Israel.

One thing though, is clear enough. In the unrelenting emphasis Kerry places on a certain brand of "multilateralism," he is providing undue, unreasonable and unacceptable legitimacy to a country that does not wish Israel well. Kerry can choose to be a friend of France, or he can choose to be a friend of Israel. But this is one area where he can't have it both ways.

Semsem
07-30-2004, 07:21 AM
Caroline Glick is a wonderful journalist. One reason my family will not vote for Kerry is that he will be influenced by Europe and France who are hostile to Jews and to Israel.

Mediocrates
07-30-2004, 07:40 AM
As opposed to Prince Bandar.

Semsem
07-30-2004, 08:27 AM
Pretty obvious Bush is not influenced by Prince Bandhar in regards to Israel and Clinton was not influenced by Bandhar?

Justcurious
07-30-2004, 09:35 AM
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1091072363164&p=1006953079897

In the first six months of 2004, the French Interior Ministry recorded 510 anti-Jewish attacks or threats. During the whole of 2003, only 563 such incidents were reported.


I'm just curious to know about the figures in Israel. Better or worse?

Boblight
07-30-2004, 09:58 AM
Sem, I wouldn't be too sure. Bush supports Israel, not because he loves the Jewish people, but because he needs the support of Christain Zionists.. Bandor exerts a lot of influence on Bush, and soon that Whabbism will threaten Israel! Watchout for a friend of your enemy!!!! Bob

Semsem
07-30-2004, 10:03 AM
I think you have been watching too much Mr. Moore movies. I think Bush can't stand the Saudis and anyway "we need their oil." He has to show Bandar some respect.

Mediocrates
07-30-2004, 10:07 AM
Pretty obvious Bush is not influenced by Prince Bandhar in regards to Israel and Clinton was not influenced by Bandhar?


http://www.israelforum.com/board/showpost.php?p=109058&postcount=36

Boblight
07-30-2004, 10:19 AM
than anything.. I have been against Bush for this reason way before Michael Moore, took Ungers book" The House of Bush/House of Saud and turned it into a excellent movie! If Bush believed in energy independence and stopping Saudi Propaganda I'd proboblay not care so much about the election.. If you want to avert another Wave of Anti-Semitism in the comming decade here is your chance, vote in John Kerry who will challange the Saudi Propaganda machine, not SWEEP it under the Rug like Bush does!!!!! Bob... If you want a President who will protect the founders of Radical Islam, worldwide Anti-Semetic Propaganda, finacial support to Al-Quida. Vote Bush!! All you Repubs who think France is the cause of anti-semitism( not the result), I have barrier wall in Saudi-Arabia to sell you...

Semsem
07-30-2004, 09:06 PM
Kerry wants to go to bed with Europe and France: that means sacrificing Israel.

I will not vote for a man who lies by saying he was not aware his grandparents were Jews who converted to Christianity.

Boblight
07-30-2004, 10:13 PM
He is mad at France, cause they wouldn't join him in the war against Saddam.. Bush is in bed with "Satin", I mean the House of Saud!!!! Bob

I am David
08-01-2004, 05:48 PM
Kerry wants to go to bed with Europe and France: that means sacrificing Israel.

I will not vote for a man who lies by saying he was not aware his grandparents were Jews who converted to Christianity.

Where is one supposed to pick up the evidence to believe that Kerry is in bed with France and Europe? Because Caroline Glick says so? Caroline says that by "international coalition" Kerry means a coalition "with France"? Where does she get this? When Kerry speaks of international coalition, he always says simply, "The world should help America more in the war". I.E. - America should not burdern the mass majority of the cost of the war (In human lives and dollars). How is this seen as being in bed with France and Old Europe, or being overly influenced by them? How is it unpatriotic to want America to not be the only one fighting a deadly war?

Kerry doesn't even speak of France a lot. One of the only refrences to France that I heard Kerry make, was when a reporter asked "Do you really expect France to join an international coalition?", and Kerry said basically: "No, I dont think its necessary to get the French, but America should not be the only ones paying the costs of war".

So please Semsen, do tell, what is the evidence, specific, to conclude that Kerry is "in bed" with France?

And how do you assume that Kerry KNEW he was half-ethnically Jewish all along, but didnt tell for political reasons? If you didnt know, Kerry knew his paternal grandmother was Jewish for a LONG time before the Boston Globe revelation, but the evidence for his paternal father being Jewish was burried deep in some old archived records in some foreign country.

Boblight
08-04-2004, 03:22 PM
FYI, According to the Simon Wiesthenthal Center in this month's article in Response, Greece is the greatest producer of Anti-Semitism in Europe. So while I do not defend the French, they are way behind the Greeks.. But since they are not on Bush's hit list, many here focus on the French as the most Anti-Semetic in Europe! Maybe I won't watch the Olympics this Summer! Bob