Official Zionist statement regarding Arabs who lived on the Land of Israel

[KettleWhistle]

Zionist Organization Statement on Palestine

Paris Peace Conference

(February 3, 1919)


PROPOSALS PRESENTED TO THE PEACE CONFERENCE

The Zionist Organization respectfully submits the following draft resolutions for the consideration of the Peace Conference:

1. The High Contracting Parties recognize the historic title of the Jewish people to Palestine and the right of Jews to reconstitute in Palestine their National Home.

2. The boundaries of Palestine shall be as declared in the Schedule annexed hereto.

3. The sovereign possession of Palestine shall be vested in the League of Nations and the Government entrusted to Great Britain as Mandatory of the League.

4. (Provision to be inserted relating to the application in Palestine of such of the general conditions attached to mandates as are suitable to the case.)

5. The mandate shall be subject also to the following special conditions:

1. Palestine shall be placed under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment there of the Jewish National Home, and ultimately render possible the creation of an autonomous Commonwealth, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

To this end the Mandatory Power shall inter alia:

1. Promote Jewish settlement and close settlement on the land, the established rights of the present non-Jewish population being equitably safeguarded.

2. Accept the co-operation in such measures of a Council representative of the Jews in Palestine and of the world that may be established for the development of the Jewish National Home in Palestine and entrust the organization of Jewish education to such Council.

3. On being satisfied that the constitution of such Council precludes the making of private profit, offer to the Council in priority any concession for public works or for the development of natural sources which may be found desirable to grant.

1. The Mandatory Power shall encourage the widest measure of self-government for localities practicable in the conditions of the country.

2. There shall be for ever the fullest freedom of religious worship for all creeds in Palestine. There shall be no discrimination among the inhabitants with regard to citizenship and civil rights, on the grounds of religion, or of race.

3. (Provision to be inserted relating to the control of the Holy Places.)

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These are some of the ideological Zionist principles, officially stated by Zionist Organizations. The bold/italic emphasis is mine.

[Independent]

There are many good Zionists. Unfortunately, there are bad Zionists too. The Palestinian Mandate actually required equality and citizenship for everyone. Unfortunately, some people, like the Irgun folks, didn't like that and unfortunately, Palestinians were never invited to participate in the creation of the Palestinian Mandate to understand it, know what it means and see how it would be of a benefit to them.

"They [Jewish immigrants] treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination" Ahad Ha'am -- 1856–1927, Jewish thinker and Zionist leader

[KettleWhistle]

There are many good Zionists. Unfortunately, there are bad Zionists too. The Palestinian Mandate actually required equality and citizenship for everyone. Unfortunately, some people, like the Irgun folks, didn't like that and unfortunately, Palestinians were never invited to participate in the creation of the Palestinian Mandate to understand it, know what it means and see how it would be of a benefit to them.

"They [Jewish immigrants] treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination" Ahad Ha'am -- 1856–1927, Jewish thinker and Zionist leaderStop taking quotes out context.

Also, it would be appreciated if you do not post in this thread anymore. I hope to have a discussion with somebody who's not a troll.

[Independent]

Stop taking quotes out context. What do you mean? If you explain what you mean in a way that I can understand it, then I'll do as you say if your opinions makes sense.

But, seriously, with your language usage, you should be examining yourself more than you examine me!

[redcake]

It shows an early mind towards co-existance, and proves that the Zionist party wasn't geared towards a supremacist aphartheid dream that they are now accused of. Here we can see that the Zionists did take into consideration the well being and rights of the Arab population. They even planned to join forces with the Arab Nationalists to fight the Brits.

Independent - this is a document from 1919, you have to keep that in mind. Your quote, if it's a real one, is one of yet another compassionate Zionist showing concern for the rights of Palestinian Arabs. I want you to remember what was going on at the time of the Irgun's most active period. Jewish immigration was being restricted, while Jews were being exterminated in mass throughout Europe. Russian Jews weren't having things so well, and Oriental Jews had already began to migrate back towards Jerusalem. Saying there are good and bad Zionists, is elementary, there are good and bad everything, and everyone. Sometimes good Zionists even do BAD things, gasp! yet, in 1919, the Zionists proposed a peacefull solution to preempt any conflicts. To say that Arab Palestinians didn't understand it, or weren't involved, is pretty derogatory, not to mention, just plain ignorant of what went down.

[NewsGuy]

There are many good Zionists. Unfortunately, there are bad Zionists too. The Palestinian Mandate actually required equality and citizenship for everyone. Unfortunately, some people, like the Irgun folks, didn't like that and unfortunately, Palestinians were never invited to participate in the creation of the Palestinian Mandate to understand it, know what it means and see how it would be of a benefit to them.

That's because, just like today, the "Palestinians" were busy trying to establish an Apartheid state by mass-murdering Jewish men, women, and children.

The Arabs squatters, known all of a sudden as "Palestinians," opposed equality. They, as now, fought for an iron-fisted rule over all non-Muslims.

[michael]

The idea that the Zionists wanted a fair and equal situation for the native population was little more (except for a principled few) than a diplomatic position. Given the small Jewish population and the reliance on the good graces of Great Britian, the Zionists were in no position to offend anyone. The idea that a Jewish state was the goal, was publicly denied by everyone. Even Vladamir Jabotinsky talked about the need to guarantee full and equal rights for Palestinian Arabs (but only in the context of a Jewish majority, of course).

Herzl identified the core problem with the Zionist aspiration,

“An infiltration is bound to end badly. It continues till the inevitable moment when the native population feels itself threatened, and forces the Government to stop a further influx of Jews. Immigration is consequently futile unless based on an assured supremacy” - (Theodore Herzl, ‘The Jewish State’ p.29)

That assured supremecy was Great Britian.

So especially in the early stages, great care was taken to try to calm Arab fears that the Zionists intended to establish a Jewish state in Palestine.

At the other end of the Zionist spectrum, Jabotinsky agreed with Herzl, but in his usual frank style,
“Settlement can develop under the protection of a force which is not dependant on the local population, behind an iron wall which they will be powerless to break down.”


At the earliest stages, it was clear what was proposed and desired. Herzl was quite clear after Basle. He wrote in his diary on Sept 3, 1898,

“Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word – which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly – it would be this: at Basle I founded the Jewish state….Perhaps in five years and certainly in fifty, everyone will know it.” (‘The Complete Diaries of Theodore Herzl’, Vol II, p.581)

[Mediocrates]

The idea that the Zionists wanted a fair and equal situation for the native population was little more

Jews were a native population.

[michael]

Are you, by any chance, referring to those who were opposed to a Jewish state?