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why should the United States support Israel in their fight against Palestine (terrorism)?
Skogan
05-20-2002, 12:51 AM
Is the question about palistine or terrorism?
Skogan
sharonbn
05-20-2002, 04:15 AM
is that a yes/no question?
Mediocrates
05-20-2002, 05:52 AM
I'd like to buy a vowel.
people consider most Palestinians terrorists
Pathfinder
05-20-2002, 03:18 PM
Which people? All the pro-Israel contributors to this forum that I have read do not believe that. Most would agree that the majority of Palestinians currently support (are in favor of) the activities of the terrorists but that only a smaller minority of them are actually involved.
L@mplighterM
05-20-2002, 05:25 PM
why should the Israel support United States in their fight against (terrorism)?
a terrorist now days, can be considered one relating to, or constituting terrorism. Israel uses terrorism as an excuse for its aggressive acts against Palestine and is continuously unearthing evidence against them daily, so i dont think its just a "smaller minority of them"
NewsGuy
05-20-2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by rxps
Israel uses terrorism as an excuse for its aggressive acts against Palestine...
An excuse???
You think that thousands of Israelis massacred in cold blood by Arab terrorists in an "excuse?"
so since even you agree that it is all terrorism they are fighting against, why should the United States aid Israel ?
NewsGuy
05-20-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by rxps
so since even you agree that it is all terrorism they are fighting against, why should the United States aid Israel ?
Because Israel is the victim of Arab terrorism.
Because Israel shares the same democratic values as the U.S. Because Israel is the only reliable U.S. ally in the Mideast, and therefore, it is in the national strategic interest of the U.S. that Israel survive and thrive.
The question is why in the world would anyone supply aid to the Palestinian Authority.
Originally posted by rxps
so since even you agree that it is all terrorism they are fighting against, why should the United States aid Israel ?
Hello, - ever heard of World Trade Center and/or the Pentagon? Marine barracks, embassies, etc.? I don't get it... :confused:
Gatorade
05-21-2002, 10:07 AM
Pathfinder said:
All the pro-Israel contributors to this forum that I have read do not believe that. Most would agree that the majority of Palestinians currently support (are in favor of) the activities of the terrorists but that only a smaller minority of them are actually involved.
I agree.
Mediocrates
05-21-2002, 10:25 AM
The US should draw up a short list of national strategic foreign policy priorities and on that list somewhere should be the general rubric of terrorism. And then they should pursue those prioritized national strategic objectives with ruthless efficiency. And anything that doesn't mesh with that list should be discarded, sidestepped or blown up.
Because what we have now is crisis management. And even though we're pretty damn good at crisis management we need an actual set of goals, a plan and way to implement it. Otherwise we'll have a another Vietnam.
The action plan for a prioritized list of strategic objectives should have a portfolio of option plans including economic, military, intelligence, diplomatic and political.
I don't really know it, do you, Gatorade? Besides, what does it matter?
Any illegal operation requires as few participants as possible to minimize the risk of information leaks. How many people would you try to involve if you were planning a bank robbery? Does this tell anything about popular support for bank robberies?
And what is a "smaller minority"? 0,1%, 5%?
Gatorade
05-21-2002, 03:29 PM
Interesting point Vic.
I hope it is a very small minority. I don't know what percentage it who actively are engaged to terrorism. But I think most people just want to work and take care of their families. They don't care about politics. True those small percentage can create a lot of havoc and Israel has a right to defend against them. But a lot of the jobs Palestinians work are jobs in Israel and I bet most want peace and to be able to go to work and home without worry about being in cross fire from their brothers in arms or from Israel.
I do believe a majority of Israelis would, if there was a truly moderate Palestinian leader in power who sincerely wanted peace, would vote to give up the West Bank and Gaza for peace. But also believe/fear a small percentage of people living in settlements on the West Bank may resort to terrorism if they were told that the settlement would have to be disbanded.
That's right, Gatorade, based on the humane presumption that human beings act rationally. Besides it may prove to be difficult to relinquish the victim status. The people living in West Bank and Gaza may be happy to do so, but what about the Palestinian diaspora? It thrives on the fact alone.
Danisl
07-08-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by rxps
a terrorist now days, can be considered one relating to, or uconstituting terrorism. Israel uses terrorism as an excuse for its aggressive acts against Palestine and is continuously unearthing evidence against them daily, so i dont think its just a "smaller minority of them"
excuse??
you know, you make me laugh. i wonder where did you get that, was it from sitting in your couch watching cnn thousends
of miles away from israel? you know nothing you oviesly repeat something you saw on tv!!!!
do some real research before you open your big mouth
and dont believe every thing you see on television!
Originally posted by Danisl
excuse??
you know, you make me laugh. i wonder where did you get that, was it from sitting in your couch watching cnn thousends
of miles away from israel? you know nothing you oviesly repeat something you saw on tv!!!!
do some real research before you open your big mouth
and dont believe every thing you see on television!
reread the post please, u obviously misunderstood the meaning.
ibrodsky
07-08-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by rxps
reread the post please, u obviously misunderstood the meaning.
rxps, it's hard to tell exactly what you mean, but I just scanned several of your posts and you seem to contradict yourself. In another thread, you suggested that Israel should kick Arafat out by force, but here you suggest that Israel is using "terrorism" as an excuse for attacking "Palestine."
Mr. Pumps
07-11-2002, 08:38 AM
Like I said before the M1A2 as a complement to the Front-engined Merkava. I bet the Israelis could do some upgrading of that Tank in their service too. If Israel had both the Merkava-4 and M1A2 Abrams MBT in service at the same time that would be awesome.
The U.S should help Israel as much as possible
minusthejihad
07-11-2002, 08:50 AM
Israel = Freedom, Democracy, Capitalism - Buffer for Terrorism
America = Freedom, Democracy, Capitalism - Already a target, needs a buffer.
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