Dedicated to George W. Bush and the American People for their Brilliant Choise.

[KSO]

No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paree
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

[Leon]

[
QUOTE=KSO]No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Yes, and everyone just loves Russians. Especially the people in the Eastern bloc who experienced what it was like to be under Russian rule and know what the real alternative is to America.

Just ask them...and they will write a few love poems or two about Mother Russia.

[minusthejihad]

Yeah, it would be a two liner.

"Glad we left it. Enjoy it KSO."

[KSO]

Yeah, it would be a two liner.

"Glad we left it. Enjoy it KSO."
Well I have a cure each time I'll see an American or a news story about americans I'll just repeat to myself "They invented Jazz Music... they Invented Jazz Music"

[KettleWhistle]

Well I have a cure each time I'll see an American or a news story about americans I'll just repeat to myself "They invented Jazz Music... they Invented Jazz Music"
Jews from Odessa invented Jazz music. Their black neighbors in New York liked it and picked up the tunes.

[KettleWhistle]

And this is dedicated to Russia:

Moskow, you are not our capital, not for as long as the Jewish stars are shining between the Dead Sea and the Mediterranian Sea.

Or if you prefer it in the native language:

Moskva, ty nam ne stolitsa
Moskva, ty nam ne stolitsa
Poka ot Mertvovo morea do Sredizemnovo morea
Gorit shestikonechnaya zvezda

[KSO]

Jews from Odessa invented Jazz music. Their black neighbors in New York liked it and picked up the tunes.Actually Jewsish Klezmer music is the base for the American Music Hall, and the Musical (A good enough reason for the average man to become antisemitic!)

[goliath]

The campaign of French disinformation and a group of censor jounalists rewiewers, did not affect the American voters.

The French mobilization against the Republican , on the verge of the decency ,can be summarized in those words :

A lot of noise for nothing ( William Shakespeare )

The fly and the coach ( La Fontaine )

The servicemen voted in 75% for President BUSH .

What demonstrate that the way of leading the delicate conflict in Iraq ,is approved by the soldiers who risk their lives in first place.

The common enemy for all of us,is and stays the terrorism :cool:

[TDidier]

The campaign of French disinformation and a group of censor jounalists rewiewers, did not affect the American voters.

The French mobilization against the Republican , on the verge of the decency ,can be summarized in those words :

A lot of noise for nothing ( William Shakespeare )

The fly and the coach ( La Fontaine )

The serviemen voted in 75% for President BUSH .

What demonstrate that the way of leading the delicate conflict in Iraq ,is approved by the soldiers who risk their lives in first place.

The common enemy for all of us,is and stays the terrorism :cool:

Monaco join the willys ! !

Not really a surprise that soldiers are right-wing (the surprise is when they are moderates) :cool:

[Mil]

Posted by KettleWhistle:


Moskva, ty nam ne stolitsa
Moskva, ty nam ne stolitsa
Poka ot Mertvovo morea do Sredizemnovo morea
Gorit shestikonechnaya zvezda


Poedu ya v gorod Anapu
Kuplu sebe novuu shlyapu
I viidu na bereg morskoi
so svoei neputevoi toskoi


Or better:

Kuda yshli evrei
V kakie goroda
i gde naiti na sredstvo
chtob ix vernuts suda


God, how glad I am my parents took me out of that cr**phole we now call Savok. Thy God I live in America.

Everybody tries to copy us, everyone envies us, everyone wants to be like us, even everyone wants to have our problems. I pity the entire world and their pitiful little problems, their pitiful Eurovisions, Koyotos, and "International" duties. When it comes to deal the real thing it's "America, honey, please help us!!! We can't do it without you!"

We are a superpower, a very kind superpower. We are an economic and political powerhouse and the entire freaking world depends on us. I am glad that some dufus sitting somewhere in his hut in the sunny dessert of Saudi Arabia envies me and watches MY ELECTION because I don't give a flying f**** about that stupid pr***k , his stupid problems and his stupid political problems.

I don't care and America doesn't care if you are a Muslim, a Jew, a Palestinian, a Christian, Democrat or Republican or whoever, we as Americans, should be PROUD of our country and its capabilities. We are free and democratic people; who cares what the world thinks of us. I sure don't.

[Olivier]

Everybody tries to copy us, everyone envies us, everyone wants to be like us, even everyone wants to have our problems.Mil, but nowadays the feeling we have for americans is pity.

And I am tempted to call this parading 'arrogant' (it's a very very long time since I've met anyone who wants to be an american), but what strikes me more is you delude yourself a bit.
Out of the population of poor countries, who are also attracted by Europe, there are not so many who envy the US nowadays. The feeling can certainly be "fear of the next stupid move of Bush", "antagonism" ... but not envy.

The US today look autistic, unable to communicate, unable to lead, 'out of sync' with the reality of the world... and sometimes it's worst : paranoid, violent, afraid, clumsy at best.


The reality of the US (and certainly the reality of americans themselves) is more complicated (and better) than this. But the image of the US as an example has drastically fallen down lately.

[Mediocrates]

Today Wyeth Pharma lost a product liability suit for Fen-Fen where the drug damaged a consumer's heart valves. The amount of damages thus far is $100,000. Now remember that Bush included 'Tort reform' as a subissue. I sincerely hope that any Bushies refuse to sue or collect as a matter of principal because after all, a $100,000 is bankrupting this country.

[SteveMetch]

Today Wyeth Pharma lost a product liability suit for Fen-Fen where the drug damaged a consumer's heart valves. The amount of damages thus far is $100,000. Now remember that Bush included 'Tort reform' as a subissue. I sincerely hope that any Bushies refuse to sue or collect as a matter of principal because after all, a $100,000 is bankrupting this country.

Tort reform should be that the loser pays all litigation costs. It would shut down those just trying to shake the tree and find out what drops. Many organizations currently just pay the plaintiff what it would cost in legal fees to fight it.

I would also cap punitive damages to some multiple of actual damages.

[KettleWhistle]

I've met many Frenchies who want to be Americans, but can't get their visas. Someone I know from work is going back to Paris next month, after 4 years, and he is not happy. Such attitude is very typical of the Europeans who lived in the U.S. for a while and learned to appreciate it.



Mil, but nowadays the feeling we have for americans is pity.

And I am tempted to call this parading 'arrogant' (it's a very very long time since I've met anyone who wants to be an american), but what strikes me more is you delude yourself a bit.

[Mil]

Posted by Olivier:


Mil, but nowadays the feeling we have for americans is pity.

Which exact things do you pity me with? I want to know pity #1, #2, #3 and so on.


And I am tempted to call this parading 'arrogant' (it's a very very long time since I've met anyone who wants to be an american), but what strikes me more is you delude yourself a bit.

??????????? What do you mean?


Out of the population of poor countries, who are also attracted by Europe, there are not so many who envy the US nowadays.

Not so many of who exactly? But I guess you are day-dreaming. I am an immigrant to the US and know how the immigrants feel about this country. You - don't.

The feeling can certainly be "fear of the next stupid move of Bush", "antagonism" ... but not envy.

Whatever that means.


The US today look autistic, unable to communicate, unable to lead, 'out of sync' with the reality of the world... and sometimes it's worst : paranoid, violent, afraid, clumsy at best.

So I guess America is a moral issue for you!!!! Weird.



The reality of the US (and certainly the reality of americans themselves) is more complicated (and better) than this. But the image of the US as an example has drastically fallen down lately.

I don't care. I have a normal life, as do most of Americans. If you don't like that - I don't care.

[Mediocrates]

Tort reform should be that the loser pays all litigation costs. It would shut down those just trying to shake the tree and find out what drops. Many organizations currently just pay the plaintiff what it would cost in legal fees to fight it.

I would also cap punitive damages to some multiple of actual damages.

In fact about 52% of all Tort cases result in court cases. Of them about half are decided in favor of the plaintiff. Of those the average award is +/- $100,000. Of those about 1/3rd are reduced on appeal.

The Erin Brockovich scenario, however emotional and explosive is a rare occurence.


I kind of like the idea of senior citizens being barred from suing doctors as a result of malpractice, though.

[Olivier]

The reality of the US (and certainly the reality of americans themselves) is more complicated (and better) than this. But the image of the US as an example has drastically fallen down lately.

I don't care. I have a normal life, as do most of Americans. If you don't like that - I don't care.Yes you don't care. That's the bottom line.

And I think the past and future Bush administration is gravely wrong in this mix of indifference (mixed with god-with-me messianism) and indiscriminate use of force...


Americans simply cannot go on polluting and messing up the world like this. Or rather they *certainly can* .... as long as they maintain a huge army.

[KettleWhistle]

Yes you don't care. That's the bottom line.
I think you got it a lil' wrong. We don't care about Europe, or what the Europeans think of us.

[CanDo]

"Bush declares Arafat terrorist, gives French ten minutes to turn Arafat over to the Israel Supreme Court."

How about if this is one of Bush's first decisions of his new term?

[Mediocrates]

The title of this thread is laughably Bush.

[John]

Boom goes London and boom Paree KSO don't forget Grozny ;)

[CanDo]

The title of this thread is laughably Bush.

He who gets the last laugh.......... :D

[Mediocrates]

that would be these dudes


http://www.iranvajahan.net/english/pictures/en.20030623..3.jpg

[Mediocrates]

But to tell you the truth disappointment is liberating. I am now a 'core' Republican. What's good for me is good, period.
It's time to embrace the society of me, the politics of hate and the world of get off the sidewalk you worthless scum, you're in my way. This is America, learn the rules.

[CanDo]

But to tell you the truth disappointment is liberating. I am now a 'core' Republican. What's good for me is good, period.
It's time to embrace the society of me, the politics of hate and the world of get off the sidewalk you worthless scum, you're in my way. This is America, learn the rules.

You can't care for others, if you can't care for yourself.

If a nation is economically strong, and has a representative form of government (which lets out Arab nations), then that nation will care for it's poor and unfortunates.

I want to see every family have affordable, and good quality heath care. I want to see everyone, who deserves it, have a good job. I want to see the sick healed, and the crippled walk.

I don't want a multi-millionaire like Kerry, who has shown absolutely no leadership or analytical skills, become President in training, while the most vicious two legged moslem animals are targetting our families.

Kerry was not the answer, period. Bush is not the answer to a lot of our problems, but he was the best of the two candidates to keep America safe AND sound.

[CanDo]

It's time to embrace the society of me, the politics of hate and the world of get off the sidewalk you worthless scum, you're in my way.

You are totally wrong! We have manners in America. We would say, "Please get off the sidewalk you worthless scum, you're in my way."

Don't you feel better now?

[Mediocrates]

You can't care for others, if you can't care for yourself.
And the 1.7 million something people who aren't working anymore.


If a nation is economically strong, and has a representative form of government (which lets out Arab nations), then that nation will care for it's poor and unfortunates.
See above.


I want to see every family have affordable, and good quality heath care. I want to see everyone, who deserves it, have a good job. I want to see the sick healed, and the crippled walk.
Then ya better pray to the baby Jayzus cause that's the only way that's happening in George Bush's America. Record # of people w/ no health care. More personal bankruptcies and foreclosures since the Great Depression.

It's kind of obvious that what they were saying, people should have listened to. For about a year we've heard that Bush's negative accomplishments were unmatched since the Hoover administration. Guess what, it's not accidental. We are moving back 80 years to the Hoover administration, or Coolidge and the roaring 20's of deregulation and big business.


I don't want a multi-millionaire like Kerry,
The Bush extended family is worth not quite so much but somewhere in the hundreds of millions of dollars range.


who has shown absolutely no leadership or analytical skills, become President in training, while the most vicious two legged moslem animals are targetting our families.
You jumped the shark


Kerry was not the answer, period.
Perhaps not the best answer.


Bush is not the answer to a lot of our problems, but he was the best of the two candidates to keep America safe AND sound.
Time will tell. For my money it's like a baseball manager. I don't really care about the weather or your starter's elbow or the front office deals or the city's referendum to fund a stadium. It's the burden of leadership, it's the ability to take responsibility and state honestly what your goals and information are, without lying or dissembling or making stuff up, it's pretty much the kind of maturity and accountability that comes with the job. On that alone Bush ranks at the bottom of all Presidents. At least Harding had the good taste to have stroke.

[Mediocrates]

You are totally wrong! We have manners in America. We would say, "Please get off the sidewalk you worthless scum, you're in my way."

Don't you feel better now?
I'm pretty sure that the next generation of auto gas mileage standards will use the "Number of winos rolled over per gallon" measure.

[KSO]

Here is the official playlist of country music that was played in the Respublican "war room" on elections night.

1. "Having your sister in the family way the Judge says no-no But mom says OK.
2. " Mah Dahling broke mah jaw but he loves me I know.
3. "You are my greasy sausage..."
4. " Am proud to be Jobeless and illiterate"
5. "The Ballad of George Lincon Rockwell"
6. "Mah Pickup Truck"
7. "got 5 years for tripple murder but at least the Darkie got the chair"

[SteveMetch]

In fact about 52% of all Tort cases result in court cases. Of them about half are decided in favor of the plaintiff. Of those the average award is +/- $100,000. Of those about 1/3rd are reduced on appeal.

The Erin Brockovich scenario, however emotional and explosive is a rare occurence.


I kind of like the idea of senior citizens being barred from suing doctors as a result of malpractice, though.

Then how did John Edwards make so many millions of dollars with his lawsuits, volume?

If I run your math 52%x50%x$100,000x1/3=$8,667 per lawsuit

Assume John Edwards has made $20 Million dollars of which he received half of the settlement would require him to file one lawsuit a day for 12 years. Also assuming he has no staff to care and feed.

The point is that your math doesn't add up. Tort reform is needed. I think doctors should start the process by refusing serve trial lawyers, there staff and their families.

These guys, in combination with defensive medicine, are driven up the cost of healthcare. Just follow the money. The gain in medical expenses is directly proportional to the new lawyers and staff surrounding medical malpractice.

I think a better way to solve this problem would be to have people buy an insurance policy for risky procedures. They fill in the "settlement" amount they want if the procedure doesn’t work out and the historic danger/risk of the doctor/procedure/patient sets the price of the insurance policy. No lawyers means more money goes to repairing the damage to the extent that money can do that.

[Mediocrates]

John Edwards won small group of CLASS ACTION suits which are quite different from what you are talking about.