Sharon - Peres Division threatens Unity Gov't

[Anti-Intifada]

There was a problem today according to the Israeli press between PM Sharon and FM Peres.

Seems like the argument was over Peres meeting with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and Arafat.

During the meeting, Peres told Sharon not to tell Peres what he agrees with and what he opposes.

As a result, the Labor ministers threatened to leave the unity gov't.

MK Eli Yishai made a good point, saying that Arafat was taking advantage of Peres' decency and trying to destroy Israel's unity, by focusing on points of disagreement between Sharon and Peres.

[Not Beilin]

More from the J Post:

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres clashed at today's Cabinet meeting over interpretations of the cease-fire with the Palestinians.

Sharon said the government agreed it would not conduct negotiations with the Palestinians while the violence continues, and a meeting with Arafat would be seen as conducting negotiations.

Peres interrupted Sharon, saying he is not prepared to belong to a government in which decisions are made unilaterally without his being consulted.

[Belgium@EU]

Perez is a man of peace, a true representative of his people. Israel should be proud on him, he's the main reason why the world doesn't hate Israel as a state yet.

Sharon is a man of terror, one on which you shouldn't be proud. He's a convicted murderer, his political party represents all the trash.

[gregg]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
Perez is a man of peace, a true representative of his people. Israel should be proud on him, he's the main reason why the world doesn't hate Israel as a state yet.

Sharon is a man of terror, one on which you shouldn't be proud. He's a convicted murderer, his political party represents all the trash.

A convicted murdered? Where in the **** did you hear that from, President Bush called Sharon a man of piece and the US congress and senate agree with him, so do I. A convicted murderer, now thats a lie.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
Perez is a man of peace, a true representative of his people. Israel should be proud on him, he's the main reason why the world doesn't hate Israel as a state yet.
Too late... The world already hates Israel as a state, which is why entities like the EU and the UN strongly protect the Arab mass murderers who massacre Israelis by the hundreds.

[Belgium@EU]

No, it isn't. The world hates Sharon, not Israel. (ok there are some rogue states which do hate israel but the eu looks at israel as an important trade partner, one of our biggest).

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
No, it isn't. The world hates Sharon, not Israel.
I disagree.

Like I said previously, the policies of the EU and the UN are designed to protect the Arab terrorists and to harm Israel. And, actually, this was the policy of the EU/UN during the tenure of every Israeli prime minister in the past 50 years.

For example, at no time did the UN ever pass even a single resolution in the Israeli/Arab conflict which condemned the massacre of Israelis, and never was there ever a resolution seeking to punish any Arab state for acts against Israel which clearly violate international law, including the UN's own resolutions.)


...the eu looks at israel as an important trade partner, one of our biggest).
Now, you are saying something true. Israel spends more than 3 times more with the EU, than the EU spends with Israel. With this trade deficit, the EU is clearly getting the better deal.

Yet, the EU has a much larger market in the Arab countries and is dependent on Arab oil.

[Belgium@EU]

Now, you are saying something true. Israel spends more than 3 times more with the EU, than the EU spends with Israel. With this trade deficit, the EU is clearly getting the better deal.

the mediteranian is controlled by mostly EU-states and Arab nations. If israel wouldn't trade with them, they would also be in big ****. The med. is the only gateway for Israel, so it's the best for Israel we don't need to put sanctions on them.

[Mediocrates]

Might Makes Right - how enlightened!

L'etat c'est moi!

Do you know the reference "Ultima Ratio Regnum" too?

[Belgium@EU]

Might makes right.

Might = Israel = right??? Get my point.

The EU has never used its economical strenght to punish Israel, the only ones who use "might" are the Israeli's.

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
Might makes right.

Might = Israel = right??? Get my point.

The EU has never used its economical strenght to punish Israel, the only ones who use "might" are the Israeli's.

Oh no! -YOU claim righteousness just because you can impose sanctions if you wish. Thus the emperor spake.....

You see the threat of force is the same thing as force if you are prepared to back it up. You DO understand the the flowery Saudi prose of "We came all the way here to tell you oil is not a weapon" is precisely the opposite of that statement, yes?

Do you really think that Israel and other small countries exist at the sufferance of the EU? You do know the colonial era for Europe is over, right? Or did we forget to take our anti arrogance pills today?

[Belgium@EU]

The Saudi's gave some fair proposals. So did the EU, in fact, you should thank the EU, the UN that we still care about the Palestinians. Who will take care of them else? Israel.

Israel is the one with the arrogance, Israel is the one who claims that they own the "Holy Land". IMHO the term "Holy land" is something which comes directly from the bible. Talking about extremists. With what right may Israel occupy those territories? It's Palestinian land, in the past, now and i can guarantee you - in the future! ... and not the Eretz Israel.

The Palestinians were there the first, they should have the opportunity to stay there and not move to refugee camps or neighbouring countries. Israel uses the argument that this was the "Holy land", given for the Jews, and thus they may also claim it. AFAIK the bible is not a reliable source, and if you still believe in gods/jesus word, you're as backward as those freaks who blow themselves up. I'm not saying this is the opinion of all Israeli's, there's just a minority which still believes Israeli's have the right to do what they want in the ME.

[Mediocrates]

Rubbish - its not about the Bible it's about an enforceable peace BEFORE anything else happens. It's about the Arab worlds enforeable agreement to allow Israel to exist.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU Perez is a man of peace, a true representative of his people. Israel should be proud on him, he's the main reason why the world doesn't hate Israel as a state yet. Peres is an old man seeking to protect his legacy and continue the cover up of the Nobel Peace Prize sham.

Originally posted by Belgium@EU Sharon is a man of terror, one on which you shouldn't be proud. He's a convicted murderer, his political party represents all the trash. And you label him so because he has guts enough to actually stand up and face the likes of Arafat without fear. Notice, it was Sharon who commanded the respect of President Bush, not Arafat. Three cheers for Ariel Sharon. :D

[JustPat]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU land", given for the Jews, and thus they may also claim it. AFAIK the bible is not a reliable source, and if you still believe in gods/jesus word, you're as backward as those freaks who blow themselves up. I had heard that Belgium was a heathen nation, now I see that it has heathen inhabitants.
So how does a bigot like you deal with such a diverse world where peole all around you believe in a god of some variety. How does someone so "enlightened" explain away the Bible, explain away G-d, discount history, and fly in the face of science? I would love to see you put in the place of Job and have G-d question you for your arrogance. I do not resent your disagreeing with me or my faith. But, I wholeheartedly reject your failure to respect those whose faith and conviction is genuine. Perhaps, if you had the type of genuine relationship with the G-d of the Bible that many of us do, it would change your perspective on many topics. Just because you don't believe in G-d doesn't mean He has given up on you. One day you will find that He was right.