African-American anti-Semitism.

[Gatorade]

Los Angeles talk radio Show host, Larry Elder, wrote an interesting and informative piece about African-American anti-Semitism. Larry deserves a lot of praise for doing a great job discussing the Middle East on his radio program.

The strange phenomenon of black anti-Semitism (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27378)

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Gatorade
Los Angeles talk radio Show host, Larry Elder, wrote an interesting and informative piece about African-American anti-Semitism. Larry deserves a lot of praise for doing a great job discussing the Middle East on his radio program.

The strange phenomenon of black anti-Semitism (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27378)

Thanks Gatorade! Larry Elder does deserve much praise for speaking the truth. I wonder what the Jews/Israel will be blamed for next... the Blackout? Diamond merchants... it makes you want to toss your cookies on Sharpton... he is a buffoon anyway!
Cheers!

[D.Abraham]

Maybe those black aniti's should go say hello to their "black" brothers and sisters of Ethiopia, the black Israelites! The Tribe of Dan. Though many have already moved back to Israel in the last 10-15 years.

[abu afak]

Blacks: Stand By The Jews
By Star Parker
April 22, 2002

An interesting sideline to America's egg walk regarding the Middle East is watching African-American opinion shift away from its traditional support of Israel to embrace the Palestinian worldview.

Historically in this country, blacks and Jews developed healthy relationships, especially during the civil rights movement. In fact, Jews were so visible in our struggle that while on one hand their financial resources and support helped establish the NAACP, on the other, some in the forefront lost their lives.

The dispersion started after Dr. King's death when the civil-rights movement shifted from defining justice as a divine order into a political resolve. I suppose this fork in the road began because as a group, Jews did not look to the government to solve their problems. Their philosophy had been to simply be left alone. Blacks, however, gravitated toward politics to continue their quest for freedom and mobility. This move is what instigated black tensions against Jews.

Disheartening today is how the same black leaders that led their people to the bankrupt ideas of social engineering are now using the Palestinian/Israeli conflict to divide African-Americans from their loyalty to the God of the Jews.

With 8 million members of the Church of God in Christ, 6 million AMEs, 5 million Baptists and 4 million in other Christian-affiliated denominations, one would have to conclude that the majority of blacks ascribe to a religion rooted in Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

So why is the black establishment portraying the suicidal terrorists tormenting Israel as victims and insisting that black church leaders support their position?

It is no secret that the least religious and most political African-Americans are hostile to Jews. What has been interesting and under the radar is that Christian blacks outside of the political process are sympathetic to Jews.

Have liberals played the victim game so long that they cannot see that this conflict of interest is beyond politics? Or, do they truly understand what is at stake and therefore have rendered the religious tradition of Christian blacks as standing in the way of their political agenda?

When Louis Farrakhan came to Los Angeles this February, I was astonished that two major Bishops representing two of the largest black Christian denominations were his sponsors. Disturbing enough was that the city of Los Angeles waved most of the fees for Farrakhan to spread his disdain for Americanism at its convention center.

More shocking, however, was that Farrakhan was in a church when he vehemently scolded thousands of African-Americans in attendance to rethink their Christianity and allegiance to Israel.

For 25 years, Farrakhan has attempted to convince blacks that their ancestral religion is Muslim and was stolen from them during slavery. Now, he contends that the Palestinian cause is simply about Jews stealing real estate from fellow Muslims. If this is true, then why was Israel attacked in 1948 when the Arabs already had the land?

It was not until 1967, when Muslims attacked Israel again, that the Israelis seized the land in question. Then, in 2000, Israel agreed to give 95 percent of the land back. Jerusalem was the only area off the table. Arafat walked away from the negotiations, saying no. Interestingly, like Arafat, Farrakhan also wants his own independent state.

When will blacks tire of being the political football in someone else's pursuit of power? Not one African-American I know would trade his freedom of religion here in America to live in any of the existing 56 Islamic states. And if there is any lesson blacks should have learned from the civil-rights movement it is that trying to find technical answers to moral questions will only drive one into more despair, welfare and heated debates.

We have 30 years of proof that bitterness, hatred and political power cannot result in prosperity, independence or peace. As long as there is someone else to blame for one's problems, it becomes harder to turn pain into something positive and to build. That is the message black Americans should convey to the Palestinian people, not "We understand your terrorism."

Those of us that have overcome great obstacles to master the American dream should stand against the prevailing opinion of liberalism and tell the Palestinians that true religion is to live and to encourage their children to live.

Dr. King understood this, which is why he focused his attentions on obligations, responsibility, and yes, non-violence. He understood that the political process is to protect one's purpose and pursuits – not replace them.

http://www.urbancure.org/whatsnew/Blacks_and_Jews.htm

[abu afak]

Black & Jewish History - In a Nut Shell

"......In American history the relationship dates back to slavery. There is no question that Jews owned slaves but only a very small portion. In the 19Th century Jews were vocal in denouncing slavery. In 1909, W.E.B. Dubois, Julius Rosenthal, Lillian Wald, Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch, Stephen Wise and Henery Malkewitz formed the NAACP. One year later other prominent Jewish and Black lea ders formed the Urban League. Julius Rosenwald (Sears,Roebuck) and Booker T. Washington, in 1912, worked together to improve the educational system of Blacks in the South. In 1945, Black battalions liberated the Concentration Camps of World War II.

The Civil Rights Movement was possibly the highlight of the coalition between Blacks and Jews in the U.S. One third of the supporters of the Civil Rights Movement were Jewish, most of these Jews were from the North and traveled to the South to participate a nd support the Civil Rights Movement.

The relationship has become strained since the end of The Movement for many different reasons; the Black Power Movement, lack of understanding about the other group, the Nation of Islam, Crown Heights/Harlem riots, even the Million Man March.

In recent years people on both sides have been working to rebuild this once effective relationship. Congress woman Elanore Holmes Norton said "no two groups have done more for this country than Balcks and Jews"


http://www.scriptllc.com/oudc/bjhist.html

[Mediocrates]

I'm not black. I don't pretend to understand this. I also am too young to remember first hand the Freedom Riders. I honestly don't know what to make of this. Do we really care all that much? Are we shocked because we used to have this relationship and now that relationship is for the most part like our relationship with most other groups? Do we care if 'more' blacks are antisemitic than other groups? Do we even know what that means. Is it important to us to maintain a special relationship to the black communities or their leaders in America any longer? Do we even share the same problems and goals?

Might the Jewish community be better served switching alliances to other groups in America? The Hispanic community for example that is growing and fighting to gain ground through the courts through the process and participation in politics? Or the Indian community which already shares some of the same goals vis a vis radical Islam, immigration, education, employment, technology? Or perhaps some points of contact in the Christian Right? We've already gone on at some length about that one.

My point is, ...so what? Perhaps it's time for the black and Jewish communities to wave goodbye and go their seperate ways. They don't want us and it's not clear how they can help us in return. So no tears. They can have their Farrakan and McKinney and any number of other people who want to make whatever claims they're going to make anyway

- I still think Delroy Murdock is THE MAN, sadly though I think he's as big a pariah to the black communities as we Heebs.

[abu afak]

Originally posted by Mediocrates

......My point is, ...so what? Perhaps it's time for the black and Jewish communities to wave goodbye and go their seperate ways. ....

Perhaps it is Medio.. and Perhaps the reason is the Same reasons blacks have racist attitudes Towards the Asians and Hispanics that have also passed them by. ..
the Jews even years before... but not through the Jews ill-will.. quite the contrary.

[D.Abraham]

Quicy Jones's mother was at my Bar Mitzvah and is Jewish so was Sammy Davis too. :)

[Mil]

So as Whoopi Goldberg :)

[Revkha]

Originally posted by abu afak
Black & Jewish History - In a Nut Shell

The Civil Rights Movement was possibly the highlight of the coalition between Blacks and Jews in the U.S. One third of the supporters of the Civil Rights Movement were Jewish, most of these Jews were from the North and traveled to the South to participate a nd support the Civil Rights Movement.
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This is an aside to your overall comments but I cannot let it pass without commenting. Although many Jews from the North traveled to the South to participate in the Civil Rights Movement, there were indeed many southern Jews who also participated. Several members of my southern family were arrested in Philadelphia, Mississippi for their role in the movement and were investigated by the FBI for their activities and were actually blacklisted and lost their jobs.

Rabbi James Wax of Temple Israel in Memphis, with the backing of his congregation, was very active in supporting the sanitation workers who were striking in Memphis. In fact Rabbi Wax was seen on national television in a very heated exchange with Mayor Loeb (a Jew who converted to Christianity so he could be elected) in defending the strikers. If you recall King was in Memphis supporting the strikers when he was assassinated. Many members of Temple Israel attended King's last speech before the subsequent events leading up to his assassination.

Although Jews may question the wisdom of having supported the Civil Rights Movement now that black America has turned against the Jews, it was the right thing to do in spite of the downside.

[frizzer1]

Originally posted by Revkha
Although Jews may question the wisdom of having supported the Civil Rights Movement now that black America has turned against the Jews, it was the right thing to do in spite of the downside.

It was not done for a reward.it was done because it was right.
But we should know by now that we aren't likely to be loved any time soon.
After all, we are the people who rejected Jesus & Mohammed.
So billions of people have a built in reason to hate us.Maybe it's surprising that so many of them,primarily christians,don't.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by frizzer1
It was not done for a reward.it was done because it was right.
But we should know by now that we aren't likely to be loved any time soon.
After all, we are the people who rejected Jesus & Mohammed.
So billions of people have a built in reason to hate us.Maybe it's surprising that so many of them,primarily christians,don't.

Frizzer1, I fear you are right on all counts. It at times seems as though, anti-Semitism, has become an integral part of some folks genetic code! I recall watching Catholics and Protestants in N. Ireland spitting venom at each other. Needless to say, the children were pushed to the front... in this act of unadulterated hatred. It reminded me, of Arafat, encouraging Palestinian children to do the same, with much deadly force.
Hope your a/c is up and running!

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by RichardP
Frizzer1, I fear you are right on all counts. It at times seems as though, anti-Semitism, has become an integral part of some folks genetic code!

No not at all. But let's not have any illusions about 'special relationships' with anyone or any group. All ethics are situational and now that their goals and ours diverge we need to go our own ways and not look back. One of the greatest political tricks ever performed in the US was the Kennedy Administration's ability to shift the civil rights battle ground from Freedom Riders to voter registration. The former was threatening to explode in violence and the latter was a good way to redirect that. Once the civil rights movement became one of more rights and less movement, the Black leadership had little need for outsiders, eg. Jews helping them. At that point we should have disengaged and wished them well. Ever since then its been nothing but resentment.


I recall watching Catholics and Protestants in N. Ireland spitting venom at each other.

You could end the fight in two minutes. Just have a Chassid walk down the street. They'd all lock arms to slaughter the Jew.

[frizzer1]

[i]Originally posted by Mediocrates
You could end the fight in two minutes. Just have a Chassid walk down the street. They'd all lock arms to slaughter the Jew. [/B]

True but after the jew was dead,they'd start fighting again.This is why the arab world can't afford to eradicate Israel..they need a scapegoat.If israel were to perish,there would be unimaginable inter arab violence in the ME.

Ric..my a/c is finally on..thanks.:)

[RichardP]

Originally posted by frizzer1
True but after the jew was dead,they'd start fighting again.This is why the arab world can't afford to eradicate Israel..they need a scapegoat.If israel were to perish,there would be unimaginable inter arab violence in the ME.

Ric..my a/c is finally on..thanks.:)

Great point, frizzer1... glad the a/c is working. You'll need it for some time!