Here is hoping against a fatal future

[Mr. Pumps]

:( Been Looking in the news lately?

India and Pakistan are close to ripping each other to shreds.

Pakistan is has test fire a nuke capable missile twice.

Iran has also test fired a missile lately, too.

I sincerely REALLY hope that is not a a small foreshadowing/taste of what is to come in the future in of the Middleeast and Southeast asia. Ohh... the dread.

[L@mplighterM]

Stock up on iodine.

[Iori Yagami]

I don`t think that there would ever be any war of that kind at the ME. I don`t think that any operator of such missiles would dare to press the button, that would send one of them here, because the consequences are quite obvious.
One of the nuclear scientists of Iraq, that has escaped to the US, has told that when Saddam told them to create a "dirty bomb", they shaked, because they knew "that the jews would wipe Baghdad off the face of the earth". I don`t think that anyone in the arab world would take the responsibility of a nuclear war againt Israel on himself, a specially when they know what the results would be afterwards.

[Mediocrates]

In retrospect we find all sorts of barriers that countries are willing to cross. In the face of direct evidence the bystanders refuse to believe the facts and sit and dawdle. Genocidal hatred knows no restraint or logic or hope or truth. It just is and can never be underestimated. The last 100 years of history are largely stories of "Holy ****ing **** - I can't believe they did that ?!?!?!"


This is why arguments about Hiroshima and Nagasaki puzzle me so much. Having surveyed the obliterated terrain of the earth in 1945 how could anyone say we WOULDN'T use them. It was never about battlefield engagements. It was about making a point. That point was "Surrender utterly or be erased from the world." At this point we float in the ether high above such mundane concerns like right and wrong and morality. Those things simply aren't relevant anymore.

This is what I see today. In Pakistan, India, the Arab states. It's not about consequences; it's about making a point.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by Mediocrates
It was never about battlefield engagements. It was about making a point. That point was "Surrender utterly or be erased from the world."

That's right, it was the message of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which has a broad basis in history.

There has never been a conflict between nations not solved by the total defeat of one side and their complete and utter surrender to the victor.

I don't think that there is any alternative but to hand the Palestinians (and perhaps Syria and Lebanon) a military defeat so devastating, that they will stop waging war against Israel.

[antho541]

Originally posted by NewsGuy


That's right, it was the message of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which has a broad basis in history.

There has never been a conflict between nations not solved by the total defeat of one side and their complete and utter surrender to the victor.

I don't think that there is any alternative but to hand the Palestinians (and perhaps Syria and Lebanon) a military defeat so devastating, that they will stop waging war against Israel. i agree the arabs still think the war is ongoing. Isreal should totally defeat them with a massive response everytime a homocide bomber blows himself up, they should attack Syria and Iran . because both are fighting proxy war via the terrorist groups it's no mystery who is funding these groups of murdrer's