Arabs are infiltrating forums.

[L@mplighterM]

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[ISRAEL21c]

What happens in Israel when there is an infiltration?

[L@mplighterM]

That link didn't work. I don't know why.

Try this.

Read it at Free Republic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/694911/posts

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by ISRAEL21c
What happens in Israel when there is an infiltration?

I firmly believe that the battles of words are every bit as important as the physical conflict. Propaganda can weakens ones position in the world community.

I doubt that a small nation could survive without external support.

[Vic]

I wish this would be the worst of all things happening now...

[Vic]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/694911/posts

What Gal describes in the article


"The deeper I probed, the graver the things I uncovered," he continues. "A typical story might run like this.

'Here's proof there never were gas chambers (in the Holocaust – the writer links to several sites). 'It's a bunch of Jewish lies to divert attention from their massacres of Palestinians.' (More links.) 'The Jews aren't strategic allies. All the States needs is oil, but it supports the Jews because they control Congress and the media. (More links to prove his case.)

"I sat down to reply at length, to refute his case," Gal says. "I showed that the links were misleading. In retrospect, I realize I was amateurish. When you encounter such claims for the first time, it takes ages to prove they're fatuous. Meanwhile tons of people have seem them and the debate has changed subject. The key is that the answer has to come fast.

"The more experience I gained, the more I understood the need for fast, catchy answers. It isn't just a war over opinions, it's a propaganda war. Sometimes the answer needs to be clear and informative, sometimes just a disparaging comment like 'Don't you get tired of writing that ****? Go fly a plane into a skyscraper.'

"It's a war, and we're coming to it too little, too late. The assumption is that they have hundreds of thousands of activists and about 10 to 20 times as many inactive supporters, meaning, millions. They are well organized, they have access to easy, convenient-to-use information, and they are trying to delegitimize Israel by rewriting the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict.


doesn't sound like an organized campaign to me, more like your average anti-semite who has been reading "The Independent" and surfing the internet. Organized Palestinian propaganda is typically non-obtrusive, well calibrated towards generating sympathy. I've seen this happen on forums non-related to Middle East issues or to politics in general too, the moderators, not neccessarily avid supporters of Israel themselves, usually treat this as spamming. It used to be pornography a short time ago.

It may be a positive sign, as a matter of fact, that anti-Israel propaganda is being taken over by obvious psychopaths. For one it is a sign of exaustion, for another it achieves the opposite of what it aims at, by revolting the people who try to stay more or less neutral in the conflict.

The best thing to come out of it would be that Israeli and Jewish groups would finally recognize the importance of internet activism - a perfect battlefield for minorities, as a matter of fact.

[cerulean]

I'm on a zillion email update lists that tell me about various new articles. One of these lists today, from SEARCHEBUSINESS.COM, included the following in the usual dry set of links:

http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;jsessionid=VM2UO3Y0Q4JSYCRBAE0C FEYKEEATGIWD?type=technologynews&StoryID=1063996

In short, a 7-year-old boy who is a son of an Indian diplomat and who lives in the Gaza Strip managed to earn a Microsoft Office User Specialist (MOUS) certificate despite, according to the article, the Israelis continually turning off the electricity and causing this poor boy to lose all his work.

This is pretty subtle, but this article once again gets the Palestinian message across to people who are not expecting it in the least.

As for the MOUS, it's certainly a worthwhile accomplishment for the boy, but as anyone knows, many kids are quite expert users of all sorts of complex programs by that age.

[cerulean]

The response I got back from the editor today was that she was so excited about the boy getting a MOUS certificate that she overlooked the political content of the article. Clearly, this is another example of how useful it is to get one's message out using every possible means and to continue to be repetitive. I'm sure the editor was not anti-Israel, but she was just not tuned in to the issue, a situation which describes about 99.9% of the world, I'm sure.

[Mediocrates]

Well for boards like this one it is possible to construct a FAQ and common answers to common questions section so that everytime some new david duke wannabe shows up like Erich no one has to waste a lot of time going over the same ground again.

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by Mediocrates
Well for boards like this one it is possible to construct a FAQ and common answers to common questions section so that everytime some new david duke wannabe shows up like Erich no one has to waste a lot of time going over the same ground again.


I think it?s a great idea the only drawback is that it has to be kept alive if it?s a thread.

How would you prevent scum from posting bogus questions and answers?

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM



I think it?s a great idea the only drawback is that it has to be kept alive if it?s a thread.

How would you prevent scum from posting bogus questions and answers?

Not as a thread but as a charter. Slash out 20-30 basic points that many/most pro Israel posters here can agree to and leave it up as a general "Here are the facts we accept and debating these facts is not productive or conducive to a meaningful dialog. You aer of course free to post aguments to the contrary but the response you will and should get is a pointer back to them."

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by Mediocrates


Not as a thread but as a charter. Slash out 20-30 basic points that many/most pro Israel posters here can agree to and leave it up as a general "Here are the facts we accept and debating these facts is not productive or conducive to a meaningful dialog. You aer of course free to post aguments to the contrary but the response you will and should get is a pointer back to them."

Sounds good to me.

[Mediocrates]

**** - another thing on my to-do list :mad:

[L@mplighterM]

I'll throw some fact together...........then I'll PM them and it can be your baby. Do with them as you want!

[Micah]

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mftoc.html