Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

[Mediocrates]

On July 1, 2005, the United Church of Christ (UCC), founded in 1957 as the union of several Christian traditions, convenes its General Synod, in Atlanta, Georgia. On the agenda are resolutions calling for the dismantling of Israel’s security barrier, and divestment from companies doing business with Israel.

This comes at a time when Israel is removing all Jewish settlements from Gaza, when she has released 900-plus Palestinians held for abetting terrorism, and as Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas meet face-to-face in pursuit of an equitable peace.

The WiesenthalCenter has directly urged the head of the UCC to defeat these unfair and dangerous initiatives. We have also asked United States Congressmen who are members of the UCC to raise their voices against these resolutions. And, finally, we have asked that we be allowed to address the conclave directly to ensure that the voice of the victims of Palestinian terrorism are heard. To date, the Church has been silent to our pleas.

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By acting now, you will be among the first 25,000 protests that we must generate in the few days before the General Synod convenes this Friday!

Recently, when another Protestant denomination considered similar resolutions against Israel, Lord Carey, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, had this to say, "Israelis are already traumatised and feel that the world is against them. This proposal, if it is agreed, would be another knife in the back. Christians who owe so much to the Hebrew Scriptures and to Israel itself should not be among those who attack Israel in such a way."

Since the Holocaust, Jews have appreciated the attempts of many church groups including the UCC to promote cooperation and good will. But the passing of resolutions so arrogantly oblivious to the safety and future of Israel's civilian population will result in inestimable damage to the relationship between our communities.



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[Semsem]

Thanks. I signed. It's absalutely disgusting. The Christian Churches have been persecuting, burning, killing, bashing Jews for 2,000 years. It will never stop.

[savvy]

I signed too. These Christians might as well start praying to Allah 5 times a day. :mad: However, I believe this time the real Christians r being separated from the false ones. We'll soon enough know who the pseudo- churches are and let the Muslims do away with Christendom's harlots. Sorry, if this is harsh, but I am mad.

[Rivka]

Signed. Oy I am sorry but I think quite a few so called Christians are forgetting where their faith comes from... as well as running away from there own.

[water]

it has been knew that the UCofC has nothing to do with the jesus in the bible
they have only hijacked the name of christain and jesus to use as a cover for there evil deeds
this go beyond evil deeds
this world is one scarey place i done know how to stop the tide of evil
unti jewishness is everywhere and is geting worse
i dont feel i have any power to stop it
yes i pray
i turn the station when the lies are being spead and my family beleives that Israel has more then the right to be where she is
and that we think as a nation she is the must fare and just nation in the world
we are just a small group
and we seem so weak

[atricnorth]

eh, i came from a christian background but from malaysia, an antisemitic country.

got bullied by muslims there, even wanted to convert me during one time, even show me a book about a catholic who became a muslim in the end.

the way they treated me in the past, man, show them no mercy.

i remember their faces, extremist for sure.
can see the look on their faces, reminds me of iraqi terrorists.
take them down piece by piece.

do what ever is neccessary to hunt them down , treat them like dogs.
muslims in this world would want israel swept to the sea, christians annihilated and raped women and make their children terrorists.

[RoofRabbit]

Thanks. I signed. It's absalutely disgusting. The Christian Churches have been persecuting, burning, killing, bashing Jews for 2,000 years. It will never stop.

Not true christian churches. There are many false religions out there to deceive as many as possible. Any so called Christian Church that opposes Israel opposes God as well. It's that simple.

[Mediocrates]

Lutheran churches criticize the fence:

http://standwithus.com/news_post.asp?NPI=414


But then it blows up in their own faces

http://standwithus.com/news_post.asp?NPI=417

[Tiberias]

Not true christian churches. There are many false religions out there to deceive as many as possible. Any so called Christian Church that opposes Israel opposes God as well. It's that simple.

That's true. There are many out there that call themselves "Christians" that aren't. Many are blinded and are wolves in sheeps clothing.

[Ossian]

Surely no Christian church should either support or oppose a nation state. Jesus advised his followers to be "no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world."

[water]

Surely no Christian church should either support or oppose a nation state. Jesus advised his followers to be "no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world."

jesus did not repect the roman empire
if you thing jesus would not be on the side of his country men please reread what you have been reading
it has been all about keeping his family alive he did bring them back to the LAND
no one would stand up for them but He did and brought them HOME

[Ossian]

Au contraire

According to the bible, He asked that his followers respect governmental authority, as long as it did not compromise biblical teachings. According to the bible, when asked if his followers should pay the tax ordered by Rome, He asked, Who's image is on that Roman coin? "Ceasars" they replied. He asked his followers to; "Pay to Ceasar what is Ceasars, and pay what is God's to God."

:D

[ShimonG]

This sort of lends credence to my theory that christianity is inherently anti-semitic. And that the anti-semitism arises from the forced incorporation of Judaism into Christianity via the theft of the old testament, the ten commandments etc. The very existence of the Jews is a stark reminder to the Christian that much of his own religion is borrowed. Unless the Jews are destroyed, the Christians cannot truly legitimize this theft.

[Ossian]

What lends credence to your theory?

I think in its true essence Christianity can be seen as being anti - jewish as a religion, as it would be anti other 'false' (so called!) religions, but not anti- jewish as an ethnicity.

[Alban]

Interesting.

Why should people stop others from speaking no matter how much they disagree with the opposition of the other side?

If you view the opposition to be totally wrong then logically wouldn't you let them make their own presence be made for the world to see how wrong they are?

Why all the silencing and protesting?

[minusthejihad]

Dude, can you stick to one subject. You just got here. No need to make people chase you around a hundred threads. Unless you're not here for debate of course..

[Alban]

Dude, can you stick to one subject. You just got here. No need to make people chase you around a hundred threads. Unless you're not here for debate of course..


I am here for conversation and debate. Just civil conversation.

I save all the threads I go to. I will answer all threads that I have posted.

How am I wrong here?

If I am unfair merely tell me how I am being unfair.

[Gunther]

This sort of lends credence to my theory that christianity is inherently anti-semitic. And that the anti-semitism arises from the forced incorporation of Judaism into Christianity via the theft of the old testament, the ten commandments etc. The very existence of the Jews is a stark reminder to the Christian that much of his own religion is borrowed. Unless the Jews are destroyed, the Christians cannot truly legitimize this theft.
I have heard the jealosy borrowed aurgumanent before. But if you think that Christians feel somehow unsecure because of your existence, then you are sadly mistaken.

Not true christian churches. There are many false religions out there to deceive as many as possible. Any so called Christian Church that opposes Israel opposes God as well. It's that simple.

:confused: Wow, then I guess that means most people listed the world sensus are not really Christian since most are Catholics, and the Catholic Church apposed Israels invasion of Lebenon. Protastants are split on the issue, and I am unaware of the position of Eastern Orthodox Churches.

People like you are infact the biggist threat to Christianity, Christians who would carve us up on petty political and nationalist issues.

[Gunther]

By the way I hope you know the UCC is fairly errelavent since they have been to watered down and have accused the Bible of being prejudice and they support gay mariage, they have very little influence over more conservative christians.

[Christian_Iran]

Catholics are not christians they are idol worshippers. They digged up saints bones and worshipped them. The bible is clear on not having idols, and the old testament where Moses punished the people that made a calv statue.

Catholics have statues and they belive that the church can excommunicate people from heaven like if they where god.

There are christians and then there are hindus and catholics.

[Gunther]

Catholics are not christians they are idol worshippers. They digged up saints bones and worshipped them. The bible is clear on not having idols, and the old testament where Moses punished the people that made a calv statue.

Catholics have statues and they belive that the church can excommunicate people from heaven like if they where god.

There are christians and then there are hindus and catholics.

What are you? Your name says Christian Iran, if you are a Christian from Iran then I would assume you are Orthodox. However you are from sweden. Exactly what are you?

[Kenneth]

Catholics are not christians they are idol worshippers. They digged up saints bones and worshipped them. The bible is clear on not having idols, and the old testament where Moses punished the people that made a calv statue.

Catholics have statues and they belive that the church can excommunicate people from heaven like if they where god.

There are christians and then there are hindus and catholics.

Catholics don't worship statues or bones. Are you sure you're a Christian? those are some seriously non-christian sentiments your displaying.

[Christian_Iran]

I am armenian christian, the oldest church in the world. It gots the most accurate scriptures.

Catholics worshipp god yes, but thrue statues. Just like the jews did before Moses came down from the mountain. It dosent matther, statues are forbidden. The reason they do it is cause...
1: They started as Romans
2: No moses to tell them its idol worshipping and forcing them to destroy it and drink it.

[Kenneth]

I am armenian christian, the oldest church in the world. It gots the most accurate scriptures.


Congrats, you must be very proud.


Catholics worshipp god yes, but thrue statues. Just like the jews did before Moses came down from the mountain. It dosent matther, statues are forbidden. The reason they do it is cause...
1: They started as Romans
2: No moses to tell them its idol worshipping and forcing them to destroy it and drink it.


Quickly, go to your photo album, ripe up all photos of your loved ones and friends, any feelings of love felt by you whilst as a result of the focus these photos create are not real and confuse your true feelings towards those whom you love.

[Christian_Iran]

... Location France...:rolleyes: Let me guess, you smoke and youre catholic?

You can not compare family fotos with something representing a deity.

[Kenneth]

... Location France...:rolleyes:

Location Sweden, let me guess, that means you may not be Swedish.

... you smoke and youre catholic?


Hit and a miss.


You can not compare family fotos with something representing a deity.

Why not? the components are all there, feelings, and devotion, point of focus for feelings, and devotion.

[Christian_Iran]

Here you go pedo priest.
http://www.remnantofgod.org/idols.htm

[Kenneth]

Here you go pedo priest.
http://www.remnantofgod.org/idols.htm

You're sure your a Christian? I start reaching round and checking labels because you sure as hell don't act like one.

[Christian_Iran]

You're sure your a Christian? I start reaching round and checking labels because you sure as hell don't act like one.

I worshipp only god, and i belive that Jesus died for our sins. I follow the bible only.

Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?

[Kenneth]

I worshipp only god, and i belive that Jesus died for our sins. I follow the bible only.

Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?

I worship no one and don't believe Jesus did anything for anyones sins. Because my location reads France you assume I am French and a Catholic, nice work Sherlock, it speaks volumes about your ability to think rationally, why don't you waddle off and show the heretics that the accuracy of your scripture is in proportion to your own inability to simple reason.

[Christian_Iran]

Youre still french so i can still hate you.

[Kenneth]

If that's what Jesus would do then hey, why not.

[Mediocrates]

I sometimes wonder about the thought processes inside big wealthy popular top down organizations that single out one tiny group unrelated to them and their operations to make a huge noise about what a threat they are.

[Gunther]

Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?
Just to let you know most catholics don't really think the pope can send them to hell, I certainly don't. By the way I have never worshiped bones.

[Christian_Iran]

Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?
Just to let you know most catholics don't really think the pope can send them to hell, I certainly don't. By the way I have never worshiped bones.

You havent, cause most catholics today are like most muslims today. Claiming islam is peacefull and catholism is monotheistic.

[Kenneth]

Has everybody seen the Easter South Park episode with Bill Donohue and the Catholic Ninjas? Funny with a big F.