Israel and humanitarian aid...

[StephenNichols]

http://www.latimes.com/la-000041017jun11.story

steve

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by StephenNichols
http://www.latimes.com/la-000041017jun11.story

steve

uh huh.

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by StephenNichols
http://www.latimes.com/la-000041017jun11.story

steve

What specific point are you trying to make?

[StephenNichols]

No point, just sharing some news. :)

steve

[Iori Yagami]

Bullshyte. Yet again you`re trying to portray Israelis as Nazis. Do some homework, and you`ll find out that there is a pretty good reason to uphold those ambulances.

[redcake]

Does the article mention the use of Red Crescent to transport bombs? Or that Women have posed as pregnant, elderly have faked emergencys etc. etc. to attempt bombings? Does it mention that the Red Cross refuses to allow the Magen David ambulences to join their coalition because as one rep was quoted they'd have to also let in ambulences with the swastika on them to be fair?

[elke]

Originally posted by redcake
...because as one rep was quoted they'd have to also let in ambulences with the swastika on them to be fair?

...and that UN could not find anyone better to lead the "fact-finding" mission to Jenin than that same rep? I'd be curious to know what exactly they expected him to find? :rolleyes:

[Iori Yagami]

Hitler`s private diary.

[StephenNichols]

Iori Yagami:


Bullshyte. Yet again you`re trying to portray Israelis as Nazis. Do some homework, and you`ll find out that there is a pretty good reason to uphold those ambulances.
Israelis are not Nazis. I have never said that they were. I am simply sharing a news story from the LA Times that I came across. Nothing more.

Are you so allergic to reading views counter to your own that you must immediately attack them without fact or basis?

steve

[L@mplighterM]

I put the troll on ignore yesterday but I decided to have a little peek.

In any event just because someone puts a statement in print doesn’t make it factual. There’s no need to respond with facts to nonsense.

One way to kill a troll is by ignoring them because they hate a freezing environment.

Bye bye troll.

[ISRAEL21c]

Little known fact: Israel sends more relief aid to disaster struck areas than any other country after the US. Israel's MASHAV program sponsors 200,000 trained workers assisting in relief aid for earthquake and other disaster victims, agricultural assistance to developing countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America, and a variety of other Peace-Corps type activities...

[Iori Yagami]

Originally posted by StephenNichols
Iori Yagami:


Israelis are not Nazis. I have never said that they were. I am simply sharing a news story from the LA Times that I came across. Nothing more.

Are you so allergic to reading views counter to your own that you must immediately attack them without fact or basis?

steve
Don`t get naive on me. You knew exactly what you`re posting.

[StephenNichols]

Iori Yagami:


Don`t get naive on me. You knew exactly what you`re posting.
Yes, I did know. I was posting a news story that I came across online. You're the one that's intimating that there's more to it than that.

steve

[Mediocrates]

There are two issues here and you are speaking at cross purposes. One is, Israel is a country that sends in humanitarian aid all over the world, frequently unasked, even to muslim countries like Kosovo - where the Red Crescent is still having trouble finding it in their Michelin Guide, problems with booking flights, no hotels....whatever...

And the other is, what did the IDF do or not to to medical and humanitarian aid workers to stop them from doing their job.

Fact 1: The IDF stopped and continues to stop medical workers and ambulances (as well as news crews).

Fact 2: People have died or waited long delays in receiving medical care as a result.

Fact 3: Those delays, stops and arrests have resulted in defeating dozens of in-process terrorist attacks and have resulted in the arrest of dozens of wanted criminals resulting possibly in hundreds of lives being saved.

Fact 4: Those medical and/or humanitarian agencies having either willingly or through negligence allowed themselves to be coopted by terrorist oganizations that ship weapons, bombs and known wanted criminals across the Green Line into Israel.

Fact 5: Those medical and humanitarian organizations continue to not acknowledge their complicity or address in any way any checks implemented to mitigate those security breaches.

One would think that medical workers have a standard protocol to check the type and expiration date of drugs and supplies and can track when and where supplies are supposed to go. Why is identifying a machine gun or an extra man in the ambulance so freakin hard to do?

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by Mediocrates

One would think that medical workers have a standard protocol to check the type and expiration date of drugs and supplies and can track when and where supplies are supposed to go. Why is identifying a machine gun or an extra man in the ambulance so freakin hard to do?


They haven't been trained for that.

[redcake]

Originally posted by StephenNichols
Iori Yagami:
Are you so allergic to reading views counter to your own that you must immediately attack them without fact or basis?



No, we're allergic to disinformation and biased reporting that picks and choose the facts to meet a personal agenda.

[redcake]

How about providing complete medical care from clinics in the vacinity with some of that UNRWA money? $300 million yearly from what I understand, and it's meant to go to education, and medical care. It's not as if these checkpoints pop up unexpectedly...if you're having a medical emergency and you attempt to cross a checkpoint, it's obviously with a political agenda to prove a point, not because you're trying to save a life with a logical approach.

[Iori Yagami]

Good point redcake.