Gaza is turning into Somalia

[Mediocrates]

In today's CNN online a video report by Guy Raz uses the term 'Somalia' in reference to the anarchy in Gaza. Additionally, The Economist article below points to the same thing.

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5351121&no_jw_tran=1&no_na_tran=1

In it, Abbas makes clear that he has no intention of fighting the disorder in Gaza unless and until Israel allows all the Arabs of E Jerusalem to vote in the 01/25 PA elections.

And then it goes on to posit various reasons, scenarios including seemingly, and of course, Palestinian claims that it's Israel's fault. But I think they miss the mark. In the big scheme of things, letting Palestinian areas descend into anarchy is a long standing PLO tactic that's been used since the first so called refugee camps were established 50 years ago. It's common practice for the PLO to play the victim card and claim there's nothing to be done about anything.

I suspect that this will be the norm as the PLO enters a new phase of do- nothingism while claiming they can't contol Hamas. Of course Hamas is on the PLO central committee and works hand in glove with the PLO so it's a deal cut from the get-go sure to end in firefights and mayhem. The recent spate of 'kidnappings' are meant to demonstrate to the west how hopeless it all seems and please don't come asking us in the PLO to do anything about it.

[Toga]

Big surprise! I said it a long time ago. There is no difference between the Somalians and the Arabs claiming to be Palestinian.

[minusthejihad]

Let's rename Gaza to Donothingstan!

[Truthful Mind]

I am not surprised at this.

As the separation barrier is complete, the palestinians will have to turn to dealing with their own internal problems since they can no longer blame Israel.

They will no longer be able to use Israel as a scapegoat for their problems and they will expose themselves for the inept, failed regime that they are.

[SteveMetch]

Big surprise! I said it a long time ago. There is no difference between the Somalians and the Arabs claiming to be Palestinian.

Actually the common thread here is not ethnicity “Arabs vs. Africans” but Islam.

Islam needs Oil more than Oil needs Islam.

[SteveMetch]

I am not surprised at this.

As the separation barrier is complete, the palestinians will have to turn to dealing with their own internal problems since they can no longer blame Israel.

They will no longer be able to use Israel as a scapegoat for their problems and they will expose themselves for the inept, failed regime that they are.

The leftist manifesto will always seek to pin the failure of others on the backs of the successful. The only point at which the US and Israel can ever hope to be free of this idiotic rationalization of the Left will be once they are dragged down into the same hell hole conditions. Even then they may not be free of this. Leftist guilt has no expiration date and is fully transferable over many generations.

[Mira]

Gaza gunmen rampage on Egypt border as unrest grows




REUTERS

Palestinian militants, member of al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades use a bulldozer to break down the barricade between southern Gaza Strip's borders with Egypt in Rafah, January 4, 2006. Palestinian gunmen using a bulldozer smashed through a barricade on the Gaza Strip's southern border with Egypt on Wednesday, firing in the air witnesses said. REUTERS/Ibraheem Abu Mustafa


Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:49:48 PM ET

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen bulldozed a barricade on the Gaza Strip's border with Egypt, disrupted traffic across the frontier and stormed government offices on Wednesday in growing unrest ahead of elections later this month.

The gunmen, renegade members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades militant group in President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah faction, went on the rampage after police arrested a local leader on suspicion of involvement in the kidnapping of three Britons last week.

Having commandeered a bulldozer to cheers from onlookers, gunmen smashed through concrete blocks lining the border near the Palestinian refugee camp of Yibna, witnesses said.

Palestinians swarmed through into no-man's land. Egyptian police fired twice into the air to ward off Palestinian youths who cut through a fence on the Egyptian side of the frontier.

But scores of Palestinians reached Egyptian soil, witnesses said. Most soon returned, including some clutching cheap merchandise, but Palestinian officials and witnesses later said Egyptian police had arrested some 100 Palestinians.

Egypt had no immediate comment on the incident. It was a further sign of chaos deepening in Gaza since Israel withdrew in September after 38 years of occupation, turning the territory into a restive testing ground for Palestinian statehood.

Renegade gunmen earlier ordered passengers to leave the nearby European Union-monitored Rafah border terminal and blocked access to it for more than an hour after taking over several government offices in the border town and kicking out workers.

They said they relented after the Palestinian Authority agreed to free their leader, Ala al-Hams, from police custody.

"They have given us promises that brother Ala al-Hams will be released between now and 11:00 a.m on Thursday," said a spokesman for the gunmen, Abu Yazan. "If he is not released by that time tomorrow, I pray to God to spare us bloodshed."

Palestinian officials could not be reached for comment.

ELECTION LOOMS, ABBAS UNDER PRESSURE

Abbas has come under growing pressure from within Fatah to delay the January 25 parliamentary election in which the faction is widely expected to lose ground to Islamic militant group Hamas.

Sworn to the Jewish state's destruction, Hamas is riding high on a wave of popularity among Palestinians over its suicide bombings during 5 years of fighting with Israel, corruption-free reputation and extensive charity network.

In remarks suggesting that Hamas gains in the election are a given, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said talks with the group may be possible if it embraced a purely political profile.

"If Hamas is elected, it will have to disarm, to recognize Israel's right to exist, to become a political body," Mofaz said in a televised speech. "Only then will the basic conditions be created -- if they are created -- for a future dialogue."

Hamas refuses to disarm but its leaders have hinted it could accept negotiations with Israel after the election.

Al-Hams was detained on Tuesday over the abduction last week of British aid worker Kate Burton and her visiting parents in Rafah. They were freed unharmed after three days in captivity.

There has been a rash of abductions in Gaza since the Israeli pullout. The parents of Rachel Corrie, a U.S. activist who was run over and killed by an Israeli bulldozer in Rafah in 2003, almost became kidnap victims on Wednesday.

Craig and Cindy Corrie were visiting a friend in Rafah when gunmen arrived, apparently intent on seizing them, witnesses said. But the would-be kidnappers were ordered out by a neighbor who belongs to Palestinian security forces.

Militants also renewed rocket fire from Gaza into Israel late on Wednesday. Two rockets struck the Israeli border town of Sderot, causing damage but no casualties, security sources said.

In fresh violence in the West Bank, the Israeli army said troops killed a Palestinian gunman in a clash near Hebron.

http://www.metronews.ca/reuters_international.asp?id=119747

[Roland]

:confused: Now, is "Gaza is turning into Somalia" an improvement or a worsening? :confused:

[Mediocrates]

Yesterday the ubiquitous Gaza gunmen shot a a few Egyptian Army troops and drove them back 1km from their own border. I'd say that it's rapidly turning into complete chaos.

[Mil]

I really hope Mubarak will send in the cavalry into Gaza :) It will all be fun!!!!!

[MGB8]

The Pal Arab civil war will come, and it will be bloody, and in the end, the Pal Arabs may "demand" (read: beg) Israel to come in and restore order, sad to say (to which Israel will say, no thank you). The only thing that can really prevent it is a very succesful attack on Israel and the corresponding Israeli response... but even that would likely only delay the inevitable.

[Mil]

Why - Israel already did this favor for Jordan back in 1970. As far as Israel is concerned it will at the most result in a few F-16 raids. But the Egyptians!!!! Oh, I really hope that Mubarak will decide to restore order in Gaza!!!!

[SteveMetch]

:confused: Now, is "Gaza is turning into Somalia" an improvement or a worsening? :confused:

Here is an idea right out of Sodom and Gomorra. Offer to anyone living in historic Israel (Known as Gaza and the West Bank by Jew haters) the right to relocate and become citizens to any country in the world if they renounce Islam. All but the criminally insane will continue to live in these God forsaken areas rather than forsake Satan’s religion here on Earth. It would be hard to imagine not getting most of the women and children out of there. The money the world currently sends to buy guns and weapons for the Muslims living in Historic Israel (Known as Palestinians by Jew Haters) would then transfer to the new host country on a per capita basis.

That by anyone’s definition will put all the good people on one side and all the evil on another.

Transfer all remaining Islamofacists from the West Bank to Gaza build higher walls to completely surround them in Gaza give them guns, bullets and ego maniac Imams and let religion of peace take care of the rest.

The offer to renounce Islam and leave Gaza for happier places will be a standing offer.

Anyone who continues to live in these conditions is beyond all hope and practicing a form of natural selection. With few women the whole problem is solved in a generation either way.

One definition of insanity is to continue to do something the same way and expect a different result.

[minusthejihad]

:confused: Now, is "Gaza is turning into Somalia" an improvement or a worsening? :confused:

LOL! Thats a great question!

[genghis_tom]

But the Egyptians!!!! Oh, I really hope that Mubarak will decide to restore order in Gaza!!!!
What does he really have to gain, though? Egypt would only have a leech on their hands, begging and mewling for assisstance because they cannot do anything on their own.
Gaza is going to erupt in chaos, and anything Egypt could have done should have been done ages ago.
When will Gaza start lobbing shells into Sinai?

[Mil]

What does he really have to gain, though? Egypt would only have a leech on their hands, begging and mewling for assisstance because they cannot do anything on their own.

that's exactly what I am waiting for.

[CanDo]

Israel will be blamed for the mess in Gaza, regardless of the facts on the ground. The world will demand more concessions from Israel, and none from the Arabs.

The world will demand more jobs in Israel for Palestinians, free and safe passage for Arabs to the West Bank, regardless of the cost in Israeli lives along the way; Israeli help for the Gazan greenhouses; opening up of sea and air ports, without any regard for the weapons of death and destruction that will be imported, etc.

The naive, blind and dumb "peaceniks" of this world will continue to decend into the fiery depths of the Gaza hell-hole, seeking to provide comfort to the worst of humanity, and the kidnappings and possible murder of these "peaceniks" will continue.

[Roland]

BTW what is the current status of Gaza, since Sharon's pull-out? It is neither a piece of Egypt nor Israel, but not Palestine?

[CanDo]

BTW what is the current status of Gaza, since Sharon's pull-out? It is neither a piece of Egypt nor Israel, but not Palestine?

Since the current status of Palestine is one of lawlessness, anarchy, confusion, incompetence and terrorism, then the current status of Gaza would be the same.

In my opinion, because Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Jordan, the two pieces of land should never be united into a single state.