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NewsGuy
09-11-2001, 11:18 AM
Looks like the Mideast conflict has now taken a staggering toll on the U.S.

I agree with author Michael Rand's Opinion Article (http://www.israelforum.com/opinions/opinion-01-09-11a.shtml) , that says that the U.S. and Europe's silence in the face of Arab and Islamic terrorism, has encouraged terrorists to act.

I hope that something good comes out of this national tragedy, such as stronger action against Mideast terrorists and the countries which provide their infrastructure.

Negev
09-11-2001, 11:21 AM
The US and Israel should act together to share intelligence and to attack the Arab terrorists responsible for this attack.

Anti-Intifada
09-11-2001, 11:22 AM
I hope that Israel takes advantage of the world's shock and destroy Arafat's terrorist regime, whicle public opinion is against Islamic terror.

EZwriter
09-11-2001, 11:25 AM
The biggest problem is that because of European support for Arabs, there is no longer a deterrence for Muslims to murder innocent Americans and Israelis.

SaltyDawg
09-11-2001, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by SaltyDawg
How much longer can the world permit Islamic terrorism to exist and to be publicly financed by Arab coutries?

You've got to remember that Europe is very pro-Arab. No doubt that they will express a big outpouring of support for the muslim terrorists like always.

In the end they are so relieved that the terror attack happened in the US and not in Europe that they will try to cover it up as much as possible or explain it that it is the fault of ther U.S. and not of the terrorists.

SaltyDawg
09-11-2001, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by SaltyDawg

it is the fault of ther U.S. and not of the terrorists.

I wonder if they will blame the U.S. for the terror attack, like they routinely blame Israel.

Let's see how they will describe the terrorists reponsible for this as "freedom fighters."

Negev
09-11-2001, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by SaltyDawg


Yes, I wonder if they will blame the U.S. for the terror attack, like they routinely blame Israel.

Let's see how they will describe the terrorists reponsible for this as "freedom fighters."

Sure. It always amazes me that in the eyes of the Arabs and their European allies, everyone else is to blame except for the mass murderers themselves.

NewsGuy
09-11-2001, 12:56 PM
It is time now for all civilized nations to learn their lesson and take immediate action against all the Arab countries who actively pay for and support terrorism.

The U.S. can't be expected to eradicate terrorism all by itself. Other countries must join in.

Robert Furst
09-11-2001, 10:07 PM
You all have it wrong, they are blaming Israel and the US backing of Israel as the reason for the attack

watcher
09-11-2001, 11:49 PM
How unfortunate this does not come as a surprise to me. The magnitude still amazes me though, but not a surprise. When terrorists invite you to a party then you leave in the middle of it objecting to the putrid hatred spewed there has to be some form of response to be expected... sadly this happened... Perhaps some other countries forseen this would happen thus remaining in attendance of such promotion of racism... I shouldn't speculate. This is just a constant sadness, it's been very difficult effort to maintain a clear head through all these things happening all this time.

Bibi4ever
09-12-2001, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by watcher
Perhaps some other countries forseen this would happen thus remaining in attendance of such promotion of racism... I shouldn't speculate.

This is the result of the Western world being so dependent on Arab oil that it has chosen to ignore Arab terrorism.

Even now I find it hard to believe that the U.S. will find an international coalition to wage war on the Arab countires that finance and train the terrorists who did this.

raven
09-12-2001, 03:04 PM
As long as the United States and Europe encapselates and particularizes this kind of behavior, attempting to blame this on one or two crazy zelots, this will continue to happen. It was only Israel and Jews who bled, now it is Americans. The US needs to take reponsibility for the appeasement policy that has been in place for the last 20 years or so. All over American TV, you now are hearing the same old, same old. Its Osama and Afgaistan NOT the Moslem Govnts and Peoples that fund these behaviors. Has the free world lost WW3? I think we have.

raven
09-12-2001, 04:26 PM
I hope Americans understand that their tax money has been used to protect and prop up Arafat all these years. For those who do not follow this issue closely, they may not be aware of this. As you begin to pay more attention, alas, now, please find out the facts and express your opinion to your local Representative and your Senator. This is what is called Democracy. If you mean business, then the person you pressed the lever for, will have to either listen to you, or lose his job. These people LIKE to be in Congress. They WANT to keep getting elected. Washington is a nice to live and work. All seriousness..call up, you can call your representative at their local office. dont have to call long distance. Dont only email. They pay much more attention to CALLS or written letters. Practical suggestion for a urgent problem.

watcher
09-12-2001, 06:29 PM
It is obvious the terrorists will not admit or gloat too much over such a intense attack upon a superpower the U.S. is. They would of course be fearful, not too much so but fearful nonetheless from any retaliation... but their boldness is intensifying.

What this act should prove to the world is that they are not to be underestimated these terrorists have many years experience plenty from skirmishes against Israel to hone some of their skills. They are better trained some of their training by the U.S themselves. They are much more wiley, extremely elusive, heavily supported, also becoming more and more well-armed.

On top of this there is too much dependence upon the oil supply of the supporters of terrorism which further strengthens their position while strangling the people they try to eradicate, convert, or use for their amusement(slave trade).

They will continue to look for weakness as again this attack has proven to be true, if they see the reaction continues to be mild they may further their operations with ease... they have dependable steady resources... they have what they can see plenty of time... they seem to have all the numbers on their side... Foremost they have lawlessness on their side which they see as righteousness, this will be their downfall they will fail at the end. Unfortunately how many lives will it take?

Not Beilin
09-12-2001, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by raven
I hope Americans understand that their tax money has been used to protect and prop up Arafat all these years.

Raven,

One surprising example is that the American taxpayer actually paid for the Palestinian national TV station which then broadcast incitement against Jews and calls for Jihad every day.

Like another poster said in this forum, I'm sure that the American taxpayer will also wind up paying for rebuiding all the Palestinian police buildings destroyed by Israel.

Not Beilin
09-12-2001, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by watcher
...there is too much dependence upon the oil supply of the supporters of terrorism...

Yes, this is exactly the bottom line and why the world goes along with Anti-Israel UN resolutions and anti-Semitic attacks.

They are afraid to be blackmailed again by an Arab oil embargo.

SaltyDawg
09-12-2001, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Not Beilin

They are afraid to be blackmailed again by an Arab oil embargo.

I beg to disagree, my good man.

In Saudi Arabia, the ruling royal family is deathly afraid of an insurgency.

The saudi citizens are much more in favor of Bin Laden's group than they support the saudi king.

So I think that saudi arabia will very much support getting rid of Bin Laden.

On the other hand, we must remember that the saudis give tons of money to various other terrorist groups and the US ought to lay down the law to the saudis.

raven
09-13-2001, 12:59 PM
We in America are about to be treated to a massive PR Blitz from the Islamic Community. Almost immediately the higgest officials of the US have been on TV and exorting Americans NOT to take out their anger on Arab Americans. At the same time, Friday will be designated as the National Day of Mourning, NOT Saturday, or Sunday, but Friday. We will all see visuals of nice Islamic Americans going to Mosque and showing all sorts of sympathy for what has happened in New York and Washington. Next we will all be treated to the image of one of the Saudi Princes, going to a Va. Hospital to show his sympathy and solidarity. (course we all saw Arafat giving blood). The images of Palistinians and Arabs in various Mid East Countries CELEBRATING are being either not let out or Spiked. There are images of Arab American also celebrating in Detroit. Not a second of air time for those images.
James Zogby, who spends night and day trying to trash Israel and Jews is on the TV claiming all sorts of horrible incidents that are happening to his fellow Arabs in America. This is of course NOT TRUE. Very minor incidents so far. The Zogby Family's BUSINESS is to help destroy Israel. Night and day year after year with brothers, uncles and cousins this toxic family never ceases. He didnt have the decency to shut his mouth for just a few days. He went on a TV Blitz casting Arabs and Arab Americans as the Victims.

Well, the more things change, and the destruction skyline of NY is a change, the more things stay the same.

Americans, write your own Congressman or Representative if you want to counter this massive PR Blitz aimed at softening and misdirecting the response to this horrible deed. We know who funds this one person and who supports his aims. Islamic Governments do. We know who has funded Arafat , Islamic Goverments including Saudi Arabia does, and it is time to put an end to this. Only we can counter this massivly funded Campain. Do it in America. Do it wherever you live. But DO IT. Write call email scream yell.....

Not Beilin
09-13-2001, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by raven
We in America are about to be treated to a massive PR Blitz from the Islamic Community.

Agreed.

Already CNN is calling the suspects "of mideast decent" not "Arab terrorists" as is the case.

A prince from Saudi Arabia is going to visit the American victims of terrorism in the hospitals eventhough the saudis have and continue to finance terrorism to the tune of hundreds of millions a year.

Such is Arab PR.

But the real culprits is the audience who is very eager to swallow the Arab propaganda and forgive the Muslims for murdering tens of thousands of innocent people in the US and Israel.

watcher
09-17-2001, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Not Beilin


But the real culprits is the audience who is very eager to swallow the Arab propaganda and forgive the Muslims for murdering tens of thousands of innocent people in the US and Israel.

True, but with such a firm grip on media coverage it makes it easier for them to whitewash their image and brainwash susceptible individuals towards their cause...

raven
09-19-2001, 11:48 AM
Last night on ExtraTV, I heard a replay of a story presented last year on that program. It involved a Mr. Fuller? and that he had a curious incident last year. A Mohamod Bin Lauden, tried and did purchace mini submarines from his company. In cash. Fuller contacted the appropiate US authorities and reported the purchace. The submarines were never picked up nor was there any contact about returning the money. Does anyone know if this made any newpaper or does anyone know anymore about this serious incident? Did not catch the full name of Fuller, nor did not hear the name of the Company. Mr. Bin Lauden said he wanted the submarines for pleasure but Mr. Fuller didnt believe him. You all can imagine just what the Mini Submarines could have been used for.

solrizzo
12-23-2001, 02:35 PM
it is the governments fault that we were attacked sept.11.we still allow mideast people in our country--that is the biggest problem.
no more mideast people in --and they all need to get out!!